Google Kicked off Bludomain site
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sboerup
Registered: Oct 13, 2005
Total Posts: 5110
Country: United States

Yes, like cordell said, those things will penalize you. Such other things like linking to lesser quality sites, or other sites themselves that are using improper SEO indexing can penalize you. Other things like bad re-directs (like purchasing multiple domains and having them all re-direct to your other domain). It takes a lot of reading to really understand it.

The biggest advantage you had before was the HTML. All of that text is indexed. Flash embedded text is not There are ways to make it indexable, but it's hard and usually its the designers that have to know how to do it, not the web or domain managers.

You have to pay a lot of dough to work with the "real" SEO guys. I get calls, no joke, atleast 2 times a day from people wanting me to get me on the front pages of google. 2 times a day! I politely hang the phone up them, as they can rip you off and do you bad.

The most important tools are properly setting up your: title, description, keywords. Your title should definately be short, but should contain the most important keywords. I was having trouble popping up when I searched for "tucson senior portraits". I added that in my title, and now I'm no. 2 in that listing, all for free, just changing the title (and also the description and keywords). Your description should be brief (but longer than your title) and your keywords should be 19 at the max (all separated by commas).

Go to my site, and "view page source" and you can see it will be at the top. Read about google recommendations about these 3 things and it will do the most good for you very quickly.

BTW, I don't use Blu's method, although I just copy the same text into the web editor on their admin site. I just download my "index.html" and manually edit it myself. This is how you also edit your splash page, if you did not know that.

Also . . . add your keywords, title and description on your other pages too, like your index.php (for Blu people), your blog index.html and other pages you might have for proofing, etc.



dkonkel
Registered: Aug 06, 2008
Total Posts: 43
Country: United States

Hopefully they'll have the flash crawler perfected soon:

http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2008/06/google-learns-to-crawl-flash.html

I've had my website from blu up for a couple weeks and working on getting it searchable for my area. I use google analytics to confirm its visible status using their tracking code. Are the google webmaster tools the same or different?

www.danieljphotography.com



Marcus Watts
Registered: Oct 05, 2007
Total Posts: 2387
Country: United States

I wonder if it because they will kick you off if they think you are making a mirror site.

If that process is in someway automated they may think they are seeing mutiple copies of the same site when in fact they are picking up template site.



Derick
Registered: Jan 04, 2005
Total Posts: 16
Country: United States

My bludomain site was also dropped by google.



Italo Campilii
Registered: Jul 23, 2007
Total Posts: 1621
Country: Italy

Sorry to hear. Mine dissapeared too, I'm hoping it's my recent 1-month change that I did from my old servers to new bludomain.

Try contacting google yet?

http://www.semreportcard.com/how-to-contact-google-customer-service/



jon claxton
Registered: Mar 29, 2007
Total Posts: 95
Country: United States

sboerup wrote:
Yes, like cordell said, those things will penalize you. Such other things like linking to lesser quality sites, or other sites themselves that are using improper SEO indexing can penalize you. Other things like bad re-directs (like purchasing multiple domains and having them all re-direct to your other domain). It takes a lot of reading to really understand it.

The biggest advantage you had before was the HTML. All of that text is indexed. Flash embedded text is not There are ways to make it indexable, but it's hard and usually its the designers that have to know how to do it, not the web or domain managers.

You have to pay a lot of dough to work with the "real" SEO guys. I get calls, no joke, atleast 2 times a day from people wanting me to get me on the front pages of google. 2 times a day! I politely hang the phone up them, as they can rip you off and do you bad.

The most important tools are properly setting up your: title, description, keywords. Your title should definately be short, but should contain the most important keywords. I was having trouble popping up when I searched for "tucson senior portraits". I added that in my title, and now I'm no. 2 in that listing, all for free, just changing the title (and also the description and keywords). Your description should be brief (but longer than your title) and your keywords should be 19 at the max (all separated by commas).

Go to my site, and "view page source" and you can see it will be at the top. Read about google recommendations about these 3 things and it will do the most good for you very quickly.

BTW, I don't use Blu's method, although I just copy the same text into the web editor on their admin site. I just download my "index.html" and manually edit it myself. This is how you also edit your splash page, if you did not know that.

Also . . . add your keywords, title and description on your other pages too, like your index.php (for Blu people), your blog index.html and other pages you might have for proofing, etc.


Seems like a good method, but it appears that my index.php file is protected when i try to open it in a text-editor. any ideas how to remedy or approach differently. i really would like to find a way for google to find my website.



DragonflyDM
Registered: Aug 04, 2004
Total Posts: 9916
Country: United States

It has been a month and I have done all that I can do and it still doesn't exits on Google. I even have the bots specivically looking at the files they told me to put in the domain URL.



sboerup
Registered: Oct 13, 2005
Total Posts: 5110
Country: United States

Mine still appears when I search for local keywords, or even my name. Strange.



Derick
Registered: Jan 04, 2005
Total Posts: 16
Country: United States

Mine was on top page for all local key words, then last week gone. I removed all keywords from my splash page to see what happends. I've had a bludomain site for 2 years so nothing new there.



dave unwin
Registered: Dec 22, 2003
Total Posts: 1284
Country: Australia

i have two bludomain sites, one is a few months old (weddings) and shows up quite well while the other one (commercial) is a couple of weeks old but cannot find it under google no matter what i type in. funnily enough, its a html/flash double because i thought it'd help with SEO!



gilbore
Registered: Aug 15, 2008
Total Posts: 1
Country: United States

I have 2 bludomain websites (designed and hosted by bludomain) and they both are having the same google problems! It just started after years of it not being an issue. I used the tools at google to make sure the site is there, the robots can crawl it, etc. Meta tags are properly formatted too.

Someone touched on this in an earlier post...I think Google is seeing the bludomain version and the URL version of the each website (because bludomain redirects your URL to their link) and is deleting the URL version (i.e. dragonflymedia.com) due to duplicate sites. Just a theory, but it makes a lot of sense. Not sure how to fix this. Google doesn't like duplicate sites!

Is everyone having this problem hosted by bludomain?



Derick
Registered: Jan 04, 2005
Total Posts: 16
Country: United States

Around 50% of the photographers that I know are haveing the same problem. Some sites are still listed, some are not.



Derick
Registered: Jan 04, 2005
Total Posts: 16
Country: United States

I still can't get google to verify my site. How did you guys do it. I tryed to paste the meta tag everywhere possiable and nothing works.



noelfoto
Registered: May 19, 2004
Total Posts: 27
Country: United States

This happens to me about a month ago... I sent a ticket to Bludomain and they are still working in the problem.

Google analytics does not read my metadata. My .com is not i n Google at this moment. Uff!

The other websites that I have with bludomain works good.



Derick
Registered: Jan 04, 2005
Total Posts: 16
Country: United States

I talked to several people with bludomain sites tonight at our local wedding vendor meeting. It looks like people who do not host with bludomain are still listied with Google. Does that make any sence?



dave unwin
Registered: Dec 22, 2003
Total Posts: 1284
Country: Australia

i've been in touch with bludomain about this this week, and tried to point them to this thread but they say nothing has changed from their end.

just to add to the confusion, the bludomain site that doesn't show up in google, shows up #1 in yahoo



jefferies1
Registered: Jul 03, 2008
Total Posts: 1076
Country: United States

I have had other business that were 100% internet based in the past and the search engines like Google, Yahoo etc all change the listing criteria every few months and even weekly if they are not happy with what they see. They say to givea chance to everyone. I always got the feeling it was to force more paid listings to stay on top. From what I have learned hosting can be a isssue but very unlikely and if a host has hundereds of photographers that would be an advantage, just like links to your site from others in the same business are good to have. More to do with file names, meta tags, word counts ( too many or too few), flash or non flash and the value given each area.



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