1Ds3: king of high iso?
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brainiac
Registered: Nov 22, 2005
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Here's a 1Ds3 set at iso 3200 and pushed 2 stops, so an effective speed of 12800. It has had a slight dust and scratches applied in photoshop:


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Although it's a bit streaky in the shadows, I like the way at the bottom of the guitar it still resolves the 3 black lines around the edge. I would love to see what it can do with good noise reduction software, but I'm too mean to buy any for the moment, as these results look highly printable to me. It's amazing how on screen noise disappears in prints, and the detail just comes through. I think 1ds3 detail is still fairly impressive at 12800. Maybe the D3 is just the prince of high iso, not the king. It would be fun to see a no punches pulled comparison.

Edited by brainiac on Sep 02, 2008 at 01:17 PM GMT


jcolwell
Registered: Feb 10, 2005
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Impressive. I also like the way it resolves the relatively low contrast features of the guitarist's hand, finger nails and the pick. It's interesting to see how the DOF varies by comparing the broken string with those still in use on the neck of the guitar.



PeaktoPeek
Registered: Dec 20, 2005
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Very impressive indeed, I didn't know Frodo could play guitar



helimat
Registered: Apr 06, 2008
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PeaktoPeek wrote:
Very impressive indeed, I didn't know Frodo could play guitar


Funny stuff!

Impressive image as well. The 1Ds Mark III would complement my 1D Mark III well, other than the fact that the three of us would have to live in the doghouse.
Helimat



Pixel Perfect
Registered: Aug 16, 2004
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Isn't the 1Ds III so clean at high ISO due to the fact it can't focus and everything is smeared buttery smooth



JasonJ
Registered: Oct 02, 2005
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PeaktoPeek wrote:
Very impressive indeed, I didn't know Frodo could play guitar


Hahaha! That gave me a good laugh

The images are very clean indeed! I wonder how it fares compared to the D3.



Inga
Registered: Mar 15, 2007
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helimat wrote:
PeaktoPeek wrote:
Very impressive indeed, I didn't know Frodo could play guitar


Funny stuff!

Impressive image as well. The 1Ds Mark III would complement my 1D Mark III well, other than the fact that the three of us would have to live in the doghouse.
Helimat


GOLD!



Gary Petersen
Registered: Sep 29, 2003
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It works nice with this full automatic default setting of Noise Ninja too.



cineski
Registered: Oct 22, 2004
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A good example of what 14 bit images are capable of.



MSC
Registered: Feb 15, 2005
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Great shots! Love it!



RobertLynn
Registered: Jan 05, 2008
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When you say "pushed" to 12800, do you mean that in post processing, you moved the exposure 2 stops brighter?

I had always wondered what it did to "push" the exposure in post.



Gary Petersen
Registered: Sep 29, 2003
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RobertLynn wrote:
When you say "pushed" to 12800, do you mean that in post processing, you moved the exposure 2 stops brighter?

I had always wondered what it did to "push" the exposure in post.


That's exactly what he means. We all used to "push" Tri-X two stops to ASA 1600 whenever we needed to.



gfiksel
Registered: Jan 15, 2003
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Not just he plays it, he plays it with a broken string



Gary Petersen
Registered: Sep 29, 2003
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Quote from a popular (and nearby) Nikon forum.

the 1dsmk3 is not very good above 800, wheras the D3 is usable upto 6400 without problems.



PrecisionPhoto
Registered: Oct 04, 2006
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That's amazing, now if only the Canon G9 could do that at half the ISO of what you used.
What focal length was that at?



ShadowWalker
Registered: Jun 21, 2005
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Very sweet indeed. My dream camera. It should be down to my price range in about 2 years when the 1DsIV comes out. Till then I can only dream .....



MSC
Registered: Feb 15, 2005
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Gary Petersen wrote:
Quote from a popular (and nearby) Nikon forum.

the 1dsmk3 is not very good above 800, wheras the D3 is usable upto 6400 without problems.


Honestly, there is so much BS on gears forums, good grief...I wonder why I bother.

I do thank the OP for sharing REAL photos from a REAL camera they actually own and use, and from someone that actually knows something about photography...kinda refreshing. But then again, who can believe thier own eyes? I'd rather have someone tell me then actually see a photo. More photos, less talk.



Ron Hew
Registered: May 26, 2007
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Even ISO 400 is too much noise if you expose wrongly



PrecisionPhoto
Registered: Oct 04, 2006
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MSC wrote: Honestly, there is so much BS on gears forums, good grief...I wonder why I bother.

I do thank the OP for sharing REAL photos from a REAL camera they actually own and use, and from someone that actually knows something about photography...kinda refreshing. But then again, who can believe thier own eyes? I'd rather have someone tell me then actually see a photo. More photos, less talk.



+5



RobertP
Registered: Mar 12, 2005
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Lookin' good. Your image doesn't really have any bad color noise, and it has great detail, so I honestly don't mind the luminance noise, especially at that ISO.

Most NR software would probably make the image lose some of that "crispy" sharp look to it, so I'd keep it the way it is. You have a winner.



mdphotography
Registered: Mar 02, 2004
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Great camera for a great band!



sjms
Registered: Mar 21, 2003
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i guess we all see what we want to see and dream what we want to dream



John Power
Registered: Jul 03, 2003
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He needs a new D string, as the 1DSMK3 clearly indicates. (I guess that's better than needing a new G-string. like this guy might want http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25519830/?GT1=43001)



RobertLynn
Registered: Jan 05, 2008
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Depends on what guitar he's playin' John :P Sometimes that's my C string, sometimes it's my Db string, ya never know...it's a pain in the arse having to have so many tunings to play current covers. Everything should be in Eb.

That link you provided is one of the most disturbing and effed up things I've read. Almost as bad as the "bug chasers".



simonella_viru
Registered: Nov 19, 2005
Total Posts: 644
Country: Canada

brainiac wrote:
[...] Maybe the D3 is just the prince of high iso, not the king. It would be fun to see a no punches pulled comparison.


it's funny you mention that. back in the day i did a high ISO comparison between camera X and camera Y, where both cameras have a different max sensor resolution. i ended up creating a matrix for comparison, where i upscaled camera X images OR downscaled camera Y images OR left both as-is. on that note, what do you think is a fair comparison between a super-mega-pixel camera like the 1ds3 and a camera like the d3 that has about half of the pixels?

btw. great pic and awesome camera! way to put it to good use- to use it for what it was made for.



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