Canon EOS Rebel XS/1000D?
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SuperSang
Registered: Mar 03, 2006
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I'm not sure if it's mentioned here yet. What's your thought on this?

http://www.bobatkins.com/photography/digital/canon_xs_1000D_dpp34.html



Matt Lomeli
Registered: May 21, 2005
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Is this Canon's "Nikon D40". I was pretty sure the xxxD was as low as Canon was going to go...who knows though. Powershot dSLR?

Edited by Matt Lomeli on May 16, 2008 at 12:42 AM GMT



Stunnaz
Registered: Apr 11, 2007
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Probably will not get too hyped up in this forum since most of us own a more advanced SLR. However, it's a good move by Canon. You win the DSLR battle in the entry level, so the more/better cheap bodies available the better it is for Canon.



RobertP
Registered: Mar 12, 2005
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Maybe an ultra cheap, ultra plasticky 8-10MP body, that only comes in silver and has lots of green and red LED lights to make it look like a toy.



mostlyprudent
Registered: Nov 20, 2006
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Maybe Canon will follow Nikon here and pull out the internal motor so you will only get AF with USM lenses. I hope it's not suprisingly good, since I just ordered an XSi!



Xavier Rival
Registered: Jul 21, 2004
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mostlyprudent wrote:
Maybe Canon will follow Nikon here and pull out the internal motor so you will only get AF with USM lenses. I hope it's not suprisingly good, since I just ordered an XSi!


Not sure I understand what you mean, but I think all EF lenses have focus motor inside them; USM is just a kind of motor, that is faster (and of course, among USM lenses, there is a lot of variation in AF speed as well... but that is another matter).



Mark Shaxted
Registered: Sep 11, 2006
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This is excellent news for 1.6x users. The current xxD & xxxD are too closely specified. This will allow canon to 'beef up' the 50D closer the the D300 (meaning more AF points?).

Mind you, I'd imagine this hyperthetical new camera might upset some 1 series users with it's probable new advanced software - face recognition, smile recognition, bad hair day technology (tm)* etc


*Bad hair day reduction technology works a little like red eye reduction, by detecting dodgy barnets. Picture Styles will be replaced with uploadable Hair Styles - and the new DPP will include Hair Style editor.

Edited by Mark Shaxted on May 14, 2008 at 09:06 AM GMT



EOS20
Registered: Mar 06, 2005
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1DMkIII AF In the 50D!



Mark Shaxted
Registered: Sep 11, 2006
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Mind you, it's bad news in that there's no mention of the 5DmkII



Mark Shaxted
Registered: Sep 11, 2006
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EOS20 wrote:
1DMkIII AF In the 50D!



I hope not!



Andy Witkowski
Registered: Sep 05, 2006
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Would be a nice venue to introduce in-body IS.



cogitech
Registered: Apr 20, 2005
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Xavier Rival wrote:
mostlyprudent wrote:
Maybe Canon will follow Nikon here and pull out the internal motor so you will only get AF with USM lenses. I hope it's not suprisingly good, since I just ordered an XSi!


Not sure I understand what you mean, but I think all EF lenses have focus motor inside them; USM is just a kind of motor, that is faster (and of course, among USM lenses, there is a lot of variation in AF speed as well... but that is another matter).


You are correct, Mr. Rival. No EOS body has a focus motor.



Eric Gottesman
Registered: Jan 02, 2008
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Andy Witkowski wrote:
Would be a nice venue to introduce in-body IS.


The beauty of Canon is you can use the best lenses with all of the bodies from low to high. Internal IS would make me believe that the body wouldn't be compatible with the IS series.

-Eric



digitalbug30d
Registered: Apr 01, 2008
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they should put an old FD mount on it



Steven Park
Registered: May 30, 2007
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Another entry level 1.6X crop body?

Is there any chance of entry level dslr w/ FF near future?

Am I hoping too much?



400d
Registered: Dec 11, 2005
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digitalbug30d wrote:
they should put an old FD mount on it

Perhaps it's a digital RF?



adam613
Registered: Jan 17, 2008
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Steven Park wrote:
Another entry level 1.6X crop body?


Who says this is going to be a 1.6x crop? I wouldn't be surprised to see an even smaller sensor with an EF mount...and that would certainly drive the price down...



Steven Park
Registered: May 30, 2007
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adam613 wrote:

Who says this is going to be a 1.6x crop? I wouldn't be surprised to see an even smaller sensor with an EF mount...and that would certainly drive the price down...


I doubt Canon will introduce smaller sensor but you'd never know...



Andy Witkowski
Registered: Sep 05, 2006
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Eric Gottesman wrote:
Andy Witkowski wrote:
Would be a nice venue to introduce in-body IS.


The beauty of Canon is you can use the best lenses with all of the bodies from low to high. Internal IS would make me believe that the body wouldn't be compatible with the IS series.

-Eric



Maybe have some logic to determine if lens based IS is available and use it, otherwise use the in camera IS.



tom s
Registered: Jun 03, 2007
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It's a low end camera with an improved live view AF system and with a 3.5 '' screen.
Canon made sure to include some lovely video games in it, so you can enjoy your LCD.



CKrueger
Registered: Jul 06, 2005
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Eric Gottesman wrote:
Andy Witkowski wrote:
Would be a nice venue to introduce in-body IS.


The beauty of Canon is you can use the best lenses with all of the bodies from low to high. Internal IS would make me believe that the body wouldn't be compatible with the IS series.

-Eric


I doubt that. Four Thirds made it work. Panasonic/Leica sell a lens with IS, and Olympus makes a body with IS. If you want to you can turn both on, but it makes shots blurry. Just turn off the in-body IS when using the lens with IS, and all is good.

Canon could implement in-body IS even better: detect an IS lens (this is already possible, as lenses tell the body what they are) and disable in-body IS for those lenses. No user intervention required.

I doubt they'll do this, however. Canon is big into their "lens-based IS is superior" myth.



Mark Shaxted
Registered: Sep 11, 2006
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Country: United Kingdom

CKrueger wrote:
I doubt they'll do this, however. Canon is big into their "lens-based IS is superior" myth.


Of the 33 EF (not EF-S) prime & zoom lenses BELOW 200mm, only 2 (6%) have IS. Of the 41 lenses up to and INCLUDING 200mm, a massive 5 (12%) have IS. Hardly impressive really!

24-105
28-135
70-200/2.8
70-200/4
200/2



Andy Witkowski
Registered: Sep 05, 2006
Total Posts: 139
Country: United States

CKrueger wrote:
Eric Gottesman wrote:
Andy Witkowski wrote:
Would be a nice venue to introduce in-body IS.


The beauty of Canon is you can use the best lenses with all of the bodies from low to high. Internal IS would make me believe that the body wouldn't be compatible with the IS series.

-Eric


I doubt that. Four Thirds made it work. Panasonic/Leica sell a lens with IS, and Olympus makes a body with IS. If you want to you can turn both on, but it makes shots blurry. Just turn off the in-body IS when using the lens with IS, and all is good.

Canon could implement in-body IS even better: detect an IS lens (this is already possible, as lenses tell the body what they are) and disable in-body IS for those lenses. No user intervention required.

I doubt they'll do this, however. Canon is big into their "lens-based IS is superior" myth.


I would guess the typical buyer of this entry level camera might not even buy more than 1 additional lens (short telephoto zoom). This camera is born from the marketing side of the house. To say you can have a 18-55 55-200 stabilized system for less than $700 would be a hit.



RobertLynn
Registered: Jan 05, 2008
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Why is it bad news no mention of the 5d2? Unlike the other series of cameras Canon releases, the 5D holds the test of time so far.

Honestly, an updated version would be nice, but at the same time isn't it awesome to know that the 5D kicks as much a$$ as it does?



Clovermead
Registered: May 10, 2007
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Exactly. The 5D doesn't really need an update imo.



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