In flight Spoonbill & Pelican display
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Nello Milanese
Registered: Sep 22, 2007
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UPDATED: shot #3 has been re-processed..I think now it looks even better (thx Dave )
Ok guys more shots from the trip. 1st off who said the XT can't do BIFs
Sure this was pretty easy w such large, slow bird but I got a mallard at full speed too!!! My rate w mallards was 95%... got ya Chad! that is 95% of the shots got trashed..keepers are 5 % Frustrating to say the least
With these big guys though the rate was about 30% which was a relief as I only saw a pair, and ended up w a few keepers!
I would be really mad turning back home without a spoonbill shot.
Another thing...exposing whites w the XT is PITA bigtime...started w -1 EC, then -2 EC and ended up later on full manual
All shots ISO 200 and 70-300 IS:
1. Common Spoonbill (Platalea Leucorodia)


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2. Its mate? a few seconds later...


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3. Chillin' around looking for a snack: (updated new version)


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4. Eastern White Pelican (Pelecanus onocrotalus) cleaning itself before the show-off:


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5. Here's the reason: "No i'm not showing you what I got here, you dirty bird voyeur! "


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6. Ok just a quick peek:


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7. We've had enough of you! Byyyeee


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Edited by Nello Milanese on May 10, 2008 at 11:12 PM GMT

Edited by Nello Milanese on May 10, 2008 at 11:13 PM GMT


Nello Milanese
Registered: Sep 22, 2007
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Country: Italy

I should add that using CS3 I processed the files to the point that there are no highlights clipping (red dots) but nontheless on my monitor I see some small hot spots



thehotel
Registered: Jul 18, 2006
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I think you done did real well with this bunch.



Wacky roger



Tim Kuhn
Registered: Nov 29, 2006
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Wow Nello, these are great. 4 is my favorite but 5 is the funniest, the flasher!! Great job my friend

Tim



Nello Milanese
Registered: Sep 22, 2007
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Country: Italy

Thx Roger! I think so too...i'm really happy w these,specially considering the gear
thehotel wrote:
I think you done did real well with this bunch.
Wacky roger



Lars Johnsson
Registered: Jun 29, 2003
Total Posts: 19068
Country: Sweden

Great series Nello. # 4,5,6 are really cool. And the P.P. was very good also



DarrenMcKenna
Registered: Sep 24, 2006
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Country: Canada

excellent shots Nello



Dave In La
Registered: Jul 07, 2006
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darn good Nello.....5 and 6 hilarious....super detail

small wee suggestion.....don't oversharpen the bg, sharpen the bird only.
#3 and #7 have a lot of halo/artifact in the bg

your manual exposure looks awesome



Terry D
Registered: Jan 12, 2003
Total Posts: 5932
Country: United States

No need to appologize for any of these Nello... you did a great job on them... in camera and PP.

Number 1 and #3 are top flight...

Terry



lbuscher
Registered: Sep 19, 2004
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Country: United States

Nello, these are great. Just goes to show you don't need to spend 5 grand on a camera that will be outdated in 6 months. I think the whites are looking really good and with great detail in all. Yeah I think I would hang on to the combo you used here even if you went for another. Your PP is also a big contribution to these photos. NIce job
Lou



Herb Houghton
Registered: Feb 15, 2007
Total Posts: 2826
Country: United States

Very nice set Nello. The spoonbills look great. I like # 3 and 5 best in this series.
Herb



Rob Tillyer
Registered: Nov 17, 2007
Total Posts: 2004
Country: Canada

Great job. Just depends on who is holding the camera. All of these are terrific but #3 is my favourite. I have never heard of these guys before. Thanks for posting.



Shasoc
Registered: Aug 24, 2005
Total Posts: 11789
Country: United States

Nello, in good hands any camera is good. Excellent job with the IF shots of these subjects not easy to expose. Detail are sharp and poses are cool. # 1, and 5 are my favorites. Looks like you had a well rewarded trip.
Socrate



Lil Judd
Registered: Oct 19, 2007
Total Posts: 6910
Country: United States

Nice shots Nello,

I really like the spoonbills, probably because it's a bird I won't find around here.

I always find it interesting to see what happens in post. Especially when I convert from RAW to JPG.

I have no problems with the shots - - highlights seem within reason to me, but maybe I'm not fussy enough.

Lil



Jude Perera
Registered: Jan 10, 2007
Total Posts: 3249
Country: Sri Lanka

Very neat set. Lovely. Gouges too. BIFs with XTi is difficult but not impossible. This should be the spirit Nello. You should buy a 500mm f4 for sure and a Mk 3 bit later even. But never wait till you get the best gear. Just go out and shoot with what you have. There are no limitations for you to improve or to take best pictures with the gear you have. There are pictures I have taken with my Sigma 70-300+Xti where those moments will never occur for me even in my life time.

Jude
PS: Just a very small thing I noticed. #3 looks bit oversharpend.



Lasse Eriksson
Registered: Sep 13, 2006
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Country: Sweden

Very good series. # 4 looks funny



Nello Milanese
Registered: Sep 22, 2007
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Country: Italy

Thx Tim I knew you'll like these too bad I didn't get any herons!
Tim Kuhn wrote:
Wow Nello, these are great. 4 is my favorite but 5 is the funniest, the flasher!! Great job my friend
Tim


Glad you liked them Lars. I was a hardcore Dpp fan, but finally gave up and started using Cs3
Lars Johnsson wrote:
Great series Nello. # 4,5,6 are really cool. And the P.P. was very good also


Yes the pelican were quite hilarious...the whole time they were giving me the rear end couldn't get them to turn around
my bad on the PP Dave I resized for web in Cs3 but then I added a bit of sharpening (Shift+S) for #3&7 with Irfanview (I use this software for canvases)..it's quick&simple but sometimes goes off the top I'll try to update it later when I get home! Thx for the tip
Dave In La wrote:
darn good Nello.....5 and 6 hilarious....super detail
small wee suggestion.....don't oversharpen the bg, sharpen the bird only.
#3 and #7 have a lot of halo/artifact in the bg
your manual exposure looks awesome


Terry #1 is my fav. too I was overjoyed w that 1 when I saw it on the lcd!
Terry D wrote:
No need to appologize for any of these Nello... you did a great job on them... in camera and PP.
Number 1 and #3 are top flight...
Terry


I've set my eyes on the 40D Lou but w no hurry at all 1st a big lens...then at the end of the 40D's life cycle I'm picking one! Thx for the compliments, it means a lot coming from you!
lbuscher wrote:
Nello, these are great. Just goes to show you don't need to spend 5 grand on a camera that will be outdated in 6 months. I think the whites are looking really good and with great detail in all. Yeah I think I would hang on to the combo you used here even if you went for another. Your PP is also a big contribution to these photos. NIce job
Lou









Nello Milanese
Registered: Sep 22, 2007
Total Posts: 2696
Country: Italy

I know, spoonbills are awesome! 1st time i'm seeing one of these "live" Their wing-span is impressive!
Herb Houghton wrote:
Very nice set Nello. The spoonbills look great. I like # 3 and 5 best in this series.
Herb


Thx Rob If you hang around here more often you'll see species that you haven't heard before almost on daily basis
Rob Tillyer wrote:
Great job. Just depends on who is holding the camera. All of these are terrific but #3 is my favourite. I have never heard of these guys before. Thanks for posting.


Oh yeah it was definetly worth it As soon as i'm done processing all the keepers i'm going back you guys got me addicted on this birding stuff
Glad you like the series Socrate...I guess you're right about the camera, i'm still not convinced that my hands are the "good" ones
Shasoc wrote:
Nello, in good hands any camera is good. Excellent job with the IF shots of these subjects not easy to expose. Detail are sharp and poses are cool. # 1, and 5 are my favorites. Looks like you had a well rewarded trip.
Socrate





Nello Milanese
Registered: Sep 22, 2007
Total Posts: 2696
Country: Italy

Yeah unfortunately they can been found only in Asia,Europe and north Africa. I've read that they have a crest only in breeding season, so I was right assuming they were in love
Lil Judd wrote:
Nice shots Nello,
I really like the spoonbills, probably because it's a bird I won't find around here.
I always find it interesting to see what happens in post. Especially when I convert from RAW to JPG.
I have no problems with the shots - - highlights seem within reason to me, but maybe I'm not fussy enough.
Lil



Nello Milanese
Registered: Sep 22, 2007
Total Posts: 2696
Country: Italy

Jude I corrected the oversharpened #3. looks a whole lot better now
I couldn't agree more about the gear Jude. i'll keep enjoying my present combo...and if i'll get some IF keepers once in a while until I upgrade i'll be more than happy
Jude Perera wrote:
Very neat set. Lovely. Gouges too. BIFs with XTi is difficult but not impossible. This should be the spirit Nello. You should buy a 500mm f4 for sure and a Mk 3 bit later even. But never wait till you get the best gear. Just go out and shoot with what you have. There are no limitations for you to improve or to take best pictures with the gear you have. There are pictures I have taken with my Sigma 70-300+Xti where those moments will never occur for me even in my life time.
Jude
PS: Just a very small thing I noticed. #3 looks bit oversharpend.



harshaj1
Registered: Mar 13, 2004
Total Posts: 4705
Country: United States

These are great shots. I second the advice Jude gave. You are doing a great job with what you got. (Xti is a fine camera with slow fps)
Harsha



anthony whitmo
Registered: May 29, 2007
Total Posts: 6369
Country: United States

Howdie Nello !!

Great job > I've never seen a spoon bill to take it's picture, so I'm jealous
The pervert pelican really cracked me up. Great caption

Anthony



Jude Perera
Registered: Jan 10, 2007
Total Posts: 3249
Country: Sri Lanka

You have fixed #3 very well. Congrats.

Jude



Nello Milanese
Registered: Sep 22, 2007
Total Posts: 2696
Country: Italy

Glad you enjoyed them Lasse
Lasse Eriksson wrote:
Very good series. # 4 looks funny


Thx for the complimment Harsha...actually I have a XT but not much difference in AF w the Xti for Bifs (I think)
Looking forward for your next post!
harshaj1 wrote:
These are great shots. I second the advice Jude gave. You are doing a great job with what you got. (Xti is a fine camera with slow fps)
Harsha




Josh S
Registered: Mar 14, 2007
Total Posts: 545
Country: Canada

Heh, enjoyable commentary Nello. These are all pretty sharp to my eyes... work that XT for all it's worth.

My eyes are on a 40D too... you're waiting for that price drop though huh? Kind of like the huge drop the XT's and XTi's have seen in the past year... yikes, nobody wants my XTi so I'll just hang on to it I think.

-Josh



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