Insurance PPA vs Photo.net
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JustJim
Registered: Apr 23, 2008
Total Posts: 38
Country: United States

I am going to be buying insurance for my equipment in the next week or so. I have about 15K in camera gear.

I have narrowed it down to Pnet and PPA insurance, unless anyone can convince me otherwise.

PPA I get Malpractice Coverage and they are about $560/ year (including $200 PPA membership)

Photo.net I will get liability insurance and they are about $325/ year. (Pnet is free membership)



Questions are.

Do I really need Malpractice Coverage?

Is the PPA benefits really worth $200?

Which has better coverage?


If anyone could help me at all I really appreciate it.








shatterkiss
Registered: Sep 30, 2004
Total Posts: 2934
Country: United States

Aren't both PPA and Photo.net just referring to a third-party insurer that they've endorsed and brokered a deal with? I know ASMP's insurance is that way...in fact, I believe they use Hill & Usher (who is my insurance agent) who will in turn be brokering other company's insurance offerings. I have The Hartford for my general liability, personal injury, rental vehicle and completion bond and whatnot, Fireman's Fund for equipment loss/damage - that's the package that Hill & Usher felt best fit my needs.

Maybe it's worth your getting quotes directly from insurance agents to see which offering makes the most sense for you?



JustJim
Registered: Apr 23, 2008
Total Posts: 38
Country: United States

anyone else



JustJim
Registered: Apr 23, 2008
Total Posts: 38
Country: United States

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butchM
Registered: Mar 12, 2004
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Country: United States

Get quotes from Hill & Usher and Tom Pickard. Or any of your local insurance agencies that offer business insurance. Prices and coverage vary quite a bit. Make sure you are comparing apples to apples as far as coverage goes.



JustJim
Registered: Apr 23, 2008
Total Posts: 38
Country: United States

Do I need Malpractice Coverage?

Would my contract cover that so I can not get sewed for more than the wedding?



shatterkiss
Registered: Sep 30, 2004
Total Posts: 2934
Country: United States

You can be sued for just about whatever someone wants to sue you for - the question is whether you want to deal with a lawsuit or would rather carry insurance that would cover the expense of restaging a function for photos and offer that as one of your services.

Your contract will cover (or carry disclaimers for) whatever you specify in it - that's up to you. That won't stop someone from suing you, necessarily, it'll just give you a better defense in the event of a lawsuit.

Also, as a wedding photographer, you should be looking at a lot more than just insuring your equipment. You should carry general liability insurance (damage to venues), personal injury (damage to a guest at an event), worker's comp (injury to an assistant or second shooter), etc. It's really in your best interest to speak with several insurance agents, describe your business and have them present you with the option that best fits your needs.



JustJim
Registered: Apr 23, 2008
Total Posts: 38
Country: United States

Good information to know. Thanks.

I am planning on getting liability insurance too.

is $500/ year a good deal for $15000 in camera equipment and liability?



shatterkiss
Registered: Sep 30, 2004
Total Posts: 2934
Country: United States

I pay about $2200/year in insurance, but I'm carrying a lot more coverage than you are. $1mil general liability, personal injury, rental vehicle liability, $50,000 rental equipment loss/damage, $50,000 owned equipment loss/damage, $25,000 office equipment loss/damage, international loss/damage coverage, etc. Many of the locations that I work in won't even let me in the door without $1mil general liability...I'm frequently calling The Hartford to have them issue insurance certificates with "additionally insured" provisions for client locations.

My equipment insurance policy is about $1100/year alone. I'd suggest that you bulk yours up to include any equipment you might plan on buying in the next year as well as a reasonable amount of coverage for rental equipment.



OutsideShooter
Registered: May 31, 2006
Total Posts: 1625
Country: United States

Jim, it's hard to get better advice than from Simon, he's a real Pro when it comes to CYA & much much more including organizing, accounting, everything really.

But you never did say what type of shooting you are going to be doing. Your question was about your equipment. Do you shoot flower arrangements? Pets? Commercial assignments? On Location Corporate? It does matter what you need to cover.



JustJim
Registered: Apr 23, 2008
Total Posts: 38
Country: United States

weddings.

i think im going to go with Tom Pickard.



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