New Canon Rebates starting May 19
5DII announcement June 2 or June 5

http://mattanderson.zenfolio.com/

boy who cried wolf

Finally, the lost 5D II scrolls are found! Are you sure about June? Did someone check the born-on date?

Actually if you wanna laugh, go to Adorama's site and you'll see this under item description for the 1D MK III.............

Canon EOS-1D MARK-III N Digital SLR Camera - Rechargeable Lithium-ion Battery - Battery Charger - AC Adapter - Lithium Battery (backup battery) - USB Cable - Video Cable - EOS Digital Solutions Software CD-ROM - Instruction Manual on CD-ROM


Thought that was kinda interesting. C.J.

darryn patch wrote:
Like I said I can't see the 5D being upgraded anytime soon I reckon 12 months atleast before an upgrade.

Have you noticed Canon's upgrade cycle? It's like clockwork. Since 2003, the prosumer models are being upgraded every 1.5 years. And the professional models are being upgraded every 3 years. The 5D will turn 3 years old this Fall.

Keep in mind that the manufacturing costs for a 5D doesn't actually go down with each year. It's not feasible for Canon to keep in production obsolete components necessary for a 3-year old Camera (ie Digic 2 Processor).




Yakim Peled wrote:
5D Mk II.
1D Mk III N.
2 new lenses.


With the introduction of the Nikon D3, I don't think it makes sense for Canon to keep the 1D series in crop format anymore. What I think will happen is Canon will simply transplant the sensor from the 5Dmk2 into the 1Dmk3N. Sharing sensors will minimize both production cost and R&D cost.

The EOS 5D and EOS 1Dmk2 had the same sized pixels. It's reasonable to assume their successors will also share the same sized pixels. Same pixel size means the 1Dmk3N can still do a high speed digital crop mode to achieve 10 fps @ 10 MP @ 1.3x crop mode.

That, to me, is the most logical step will Canon to take.

Edited by Rubber Soul on Apr 30, 2008 at 02:56 PM GMT

An 'n' model of the 1D3 is a good bet at some point, but not to "fix" the AF.

It's simply been Canon's past practice to do a mid-point revision on certain pro cameras prior to a complete model replacement. This happened in the past with the F-1, EOS-1, and EOS-1D II, and and there is a better than even chance that this will happen again with this model.

Im my opinion, Canon has demonstrated a commitment to fix issues with the existing model. It hasn't happened with the alacrity that some owners wished, but I doubt this is due to "arrogance" or "corporate greed", but simply to the reality that some problems are difficult to track down and solve.

I don't believe Canon secretly wishes to drive us all to Nikon. I do think they need to seriously reconsider their quality assurance and release testing process. And, the marketing department needs to connect with reality and verify engineering statements before making claims about "revolutionary" AF performance. It's a problem not of intent, but of competence.

garyvot wrote:
An 'n' model of the 1D3 is a good bet at some point, but not to "fix" the AF.

It's simply been Canon's past practice to do a mid-point revision on certain pro cameras prior to a complete model replacement. This happened in the past with the F-1, EOS-1, and EOS-1D II, and and there is a better than even chance that this will happen again with this model.

Im my opinion, Canon has demonstrated a commitment to fix issues with the existing model. It hasn't happened with the alacrity that some owners wished, but I doubt this is due to "arrogance" or "corporate greed", but simply to the reality that some problems are difficult to track down and solve.

I don't believe Canon secretly wishes to drive us all to Nikon. I do think they need to seriously reconsider their quality assurance and release testing process. And, the marketing department needs to connect with reality and verify engineering statements before making claims about "revolutionary" AF performance. It's a problem not of intent, but of competence.

Finally, a realistic appraisal of what is going on at Canon! Big company = lots of red tape, lots of miscommunication or no communication between departments. Couple that with a difficult design flaw and you have the makings of a huge headache! I think Canon does need to evolve, and perhaps this nightmare with be the activation energy needed for some small changes, but change rarely happens in the absence of major economic hardship and I doubt this issues has hurt them significantly.

I dont care what they introduce. Since getting the 1Ds2, I dont think i'll need to get another body for years. Love this thing!

fotografur wrote:
Here we go again

EOS20 wrote:
I will believe it when I see it (In the shops!).


Sums up my thoughts.

24-70/2.8L IS is waste of money IMO.

Yakim Peled wrote:
No more info. Sorry.

The 24-70/2.8 IS is long overdue.
http://photo.net/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=00GvWX



Happy shooting,
Yakim.

Still lusting for a 5D II .... so any rumor is better than no rumor!

Hope there is a 100-400L IS Mk II in the mix!

Finally a voice of sanity. Most opinions on this MKIII issue vacillate between "evil Canon" to "My MkIII has no issues" camps and a few reasonable folks in the middle.

To me, this is more of a marketing fiasco that was handled by Canon the best way they could (read logistics). Could this have been done better? Possibly, but then again that is the experience for the next issue that occurs.

-- Vivek

garyvot wrote:
An 'n' model of the 1D3 is a good bet at some point, but not to "fix" the AF.

It's simply been Canon's past practice to do a mid-point revision on certain pro cameras prior to a complete model replacement. This happened in the past with the F-1, EOS-1, and EOS-1D II, and and there is a better than even chance that this will happen again with this model.

Im my opinion, Canon has demonstrated a commitment to fix issues with the existing model. It hasn't happened with the alacrity that some owners wished, but I doubt this is due to "arrogance" or "corporate greed", but simply to the reality that some problems are difficult to track down and solve.

I don't believe Canon secretly wishes to drive us all to Nikon. I do think they need to seriously reconsider their quality assurance and release testing process. And, the marketing department needs to connect with reality and verify engineering statements before making claims about "revolutionary" AF performance. It's a problem not of intent, but of competence.

Vivek wrote:
Finally a voice of sanity. Most opinions on this MKIII issue vacillate between "evil Canon" to "My MkIII has no issues" camps and a few reasonable folks in the middle.

To me, this is more of a marketing fiasco that was handled by Canon the best way they could (read logistics). Could this have been done better? Possibly, but then again that is the experience for the next issue that occurs.

-- Vivek


Well... since you ask... yes, they could have done it better. It's bad enough that they had a problem with one of their flagship cameras but the fact that they blamed their customers without offering a hint that they were taking them seriously was a very, very, very bad decision. And that's putting it kindly. Basically I concur with you but it was their messed-up PR department that screwed things up - BIG time.

I am sorry, this is funny

So the source giving us top secret Canon news is "photographer which shoots Nikon, has a vast collection of Nikon equipment and has some internal knowledge in Nikon.." oh yes an a little Canon insight. Am I the only one having a problem parsing this


Yakim Peled wrote:
Not much really.

5D Mk II.
1D Mk III N.
2 new lenses.

The source is an old Israeli photographer which shoots Nikon, has a vast collection of Nikon equipment and has some internal knowledge in Nikon and Canon (a little). FWIW, he is well respected in Israel and is considered a reliable source.

BTW, the link is in Hebrew so I see no point in posting it. Then again, if some of you do read Hebrew I will post it.

Happy shooting,
Yakim.

Barry Pehlman wrote:
Finally, the lost 5D II scrolls are found! Are you sure about June? Did someone check the born-on date?

Where do they put the Expiration Date on the 5D?

I think I'd rather see a 15mm f2.8 L the current fisheye has been around for ages

The higher ups at Canon Japan are convinced the 1DIII is a cursed camera body.
There is zero chance of them releasing an "N" version of a cursed body.

Rubber Soul wrote:
Have you noticed Canon's upgrade cycle? It's like clockwork. Since 2003, the prosumer models are being upgraded every 1.5 years. And the professional models are being upgraded every 3 years. The 5D will turn 3 years old this Fall.

Clockwork, eh? So the 1Ds2 was not a pro camera?

Matt Anderson wrote:
New Canon Rebates starting May 19
5DII announcement June 2 or June 5

http://mattanderson.zenfolio.com/


I'm confused. What does the link to your photos have to do with the above text?

Where did you come by your information about the rebates?

On top of his Nikon experience, I understand he's close friends with the folks that told Bush and Co about the Iraqi WMDs, so it has to be true!

Ah, another day, another rumor....

-Nick

Me_XMan wrote:
24-70/2.8L IS is waste of money IMO.



Yes, it should be a 24-85 f/2.8L IS

But I'd like to see a 24-120 f/3.5L IS instead and a new 17-50 f/4L optimised for FF with good corner performance and better performance wide open.

stanj wrote:
Clockwork, eh? So the 1Ds2 was not a pro camera?

Since 2003:


Spring 2008: Rebel XSi
Fall 2006: Rebel XTi
Spring 2005: Rebel XT
Fall 2003: Rebel

Fall 2007: 40D
Spring 2006: 30D
Fall 2004: 20D
Spring 2003: 10D

Fall 2007: 1Dsmk3
Fall 2004: 1Dsmk2

Spring 2007: 1Dmk3
Spring 2004: 1Dmk2

That is even funnier

FatBoyAl wrote:
On top of his Nikon experience, I understand he's close friends with the folks that told Bush and Co about the Iraqi WMDs, so it has to be true!

hear ye! hear ye! all sinners.
Did you forget the prayer : "Don't bring us into temptation"?
I just get my dirty hand on the 5D only for 3 months, and you're now making me started drooling again!
I am not worry about whether you'll go to hell, but I know for sure that my so call "angel/sugar" will be damn sure that I will get there if I started dreaming about the 5DII, 24-70 IS, etc...