PDX Waterfront - Lit by warm light
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realkuhl
Registered: Apr 22, 2003
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Last night at twilight with storms moving all around me.

Hope you enjoy, it was awesome to be here with the cherry blossoms falling like snow in the soft winds.



Al B
Registered: Jan 17, 2004
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John,

Want to trade locations! Wow! I am envious of your close proximity to the cherry blossoms. Nice work!

Love the colours and overall night scene.

Al B



floris
Registered: May 11, 2006
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Sweet blossoms and even sweeter light! Unfortunately the path kind of draws me off into the corner, which isn't as exciting as the blossoms - a slight crop off the left edge just past that leftmost path light seems to help for me, just a thought.



JimFox
Registered: Jan 11, 2005
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Hey John,

Very sweet lighting in this. I really like how that was handled. I agree with Floris about a very slight crop on the left side. But still a very nice shot!

Jim



bshamilton
Registered: Aug 28, 2005
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Me, too, but wow, that lighting and colors are wonderful!

Barry



Chip Payet
Registered: Nov 02, 2007
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May I ask a stupid question?

Is this an example of HDR? I ask because it seems that the colors and contrasts are very intense and dramatic, and I'm not sure how one would capture than in-camera.

If it's not, please enlighten this beginning student!

BTW - I also agree about the crop, and also that the picture is just fabulous. So jealous!



PKuglin
Registered: May 04, 2003
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OK John, I see you are sucking up all the light at those cherry trees again

I 2nd the small crop, but it is a great show for sure. How were they - I see much more on the ground, but plenty in the trees?

Chip - I am 99% sure this is not a HDR image knowing John. Blending and contrast adjustments are more John's style



realkuhl
Registered: Apr 22, 2003
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Believe it or not, this is an HDR. This is the type of lighting conditions where I am finding HDR is a useful tool. I will post after work a before HDR and a after HDR. The change is quite dramatic and I liked it, so I used it

I know, a shock to hear such words but I'm keeping an open mind on new techiques where they might actually work.



Chip Payet
Registered: Nov 02, 2007
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The rookie guessed right! Beginner's luck, that's what it was.

Maybe I need to add HDR to my long list of things I have to learn. If I can find the end of the list, that is.....



PKuglin
Registered: May 04, 2003
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oh no Mr. Bill a HDR from John.



floris
Registered: May 11, 2006
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realkuhl wrote:
Believe it or not, this is an HDR. This is the type of lighting conditions where I am finding HDR is a useful tool. I will post after work a before HDR and a after HDR. The change is quite dramatic and I liked it, so I used it

I know, a shock to hear such words but I'm keeping an open mind on new techiques where they might actually work.


hmm.. it sure looks good for an HDR, I would've expected it to be blending as Phil did.. If you could share some more workflow details when you post the before and after that'd be great too!



Daniel Heineck
Registered: Oct 20, 2007
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You're doing a great job of capturing these Cherry blossoms between the snow/hail/rain/snail/snain/whatever as of late. You're also making me feel guilty for not getting my fotos out as well ;-)

Great capture and I like the color contrast and the star halos around the lights --what were you at? f/11?

Best,
D



realkuhl
Registered: Apr 22, 2003
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Nice Lens Flares from lights = f22.0



realkuhl
Registered: Apr 22, 2003
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Okay, here is a side by side comparison along with the settings I used in Photomatix "Tone Mapping" plug-in inside of Photoshop CS3:



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Photomatix Tone Mapping Plug-In

Strength 64
Color Saturation 59
Light Smoothing +1 (4th button from left)
Luminosity -8
Micro-contrast (5th button from left (Max))
Micro-smoothing 14

White Clipping 0.65%
Black Clipping 0.28%
Gamma = 1.00

NOTE: Just because this worked pretty well doesn't mean I love HDR. In most cases I think it's used improperly because it is being asked to blend images where the various exposures are too far away (-1.-, 0, +1 etc) instead of smaller steps. This was done with a single image with fairly moderate settings so it's not all that extreme. In cases like this, I think it can become a very useful tool to enhance areas in an image (with a layer mask).


Daniel Heineck
Registered: Oct 20, 2007
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Perhaps its the image size, but do tell me if your picture is suffering from diffraction when viewed at a normal print size or did you stitch in the light flares as well?

Either way... I like the picture a lot.



PKuglin
Registered: May 04, 2003
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So you tone mapped and didn't combine multiple images. OK that isn't normal HDR, but tone mapping. Still it worked very well



realkuhl
Registered: Apr 22, 2003
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Yes, I guess tone mapped isn't technically HDR, but in a way I think it is.....

Daniel, I'm using the 17-40 and it's pretty sweet but yes, anything about f/11 introduces image quality breakdown, but given the conditions, it seems that it would print pretty nice up to 14 x 21 which is about the largest I print any of my images.

Thanks again for the kind words.



KPieper
Registered: Jan 26, 2004
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Nicely done, John.

BTW, there may be some degradation of image due to diffraction at smaller f-stops, but I don't really find it much of an issue...To me, it's one of those over-analyzed variables of the digital age



pjbishop
Registered: Oct 12, 2003
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This scene does seem like an excellent candidate for HDR, done with restraint, as you show, to enhance the atmosphere of the picture as a whole without destroying the tonal integration. Beautifully framed, too.



mark70x70
Registered: Aug 01, 2005
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Nice! Makes me miss my home town!

Mark



realkuhl
Registered: Apr 22, 2003
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Thanks again guys for the kind words ! This hit #12 and front page of Explore over at flickr.com....



ScaryFox
Registered: Dec 30, 2004
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Beautiful image with gorgeus light. Thanks for the technical details, too.
Ute



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