AGeoJO wrote:
Since you experienced this first hand, can elaborate some more, please? I heard about this lately but not quite sure what the exact problem is.

The viewfinder is very slightly rotated around the lens axis compared to the sensor, so you think you have taken a picture with a perfectly horizontal... horizon, but the file itself shows the horizon to be a bit skewed. It's by a very small amount, but I decided to get it fixed so that I don't take 3 years of slightly crooked pictures.

kirstin wrote:
1ds III - Horizon 1 degree off, auto focus is flawless. Best focus I have ever used. The horizon issue is a big one though. I can't send it back for repair because funnily enough I need to use it for my job and I need to get paid all the time if I'm going to give canon £6000 for a dogs ass camera that has been assembled by a drunk. Frigging nightmare. Canon suck, That's a fact.

If you are a CPS member (like I am) they should give you a loaner

IMHO if Canon are going to charge such ridiculously high prices - up into the realm of medium format (almost) for a camera body it damn well shouldn't have a wonky pentaprism and if it does they ought to give you an alternative while they fix it, and quickly.

I have been a Canon man all my life because of their innovation and lenses but recently I have seen them really slip badly.

David

files are too big and clog up my little hard drive. somehow my CF cards shrunk too.

ridiculously high prices---up to the realm of medium format? go check out a new hassy

rbranan wrote:
ridiculously high prices---up to the realm of medium format? go check out a new hassy

There are cheaper alternatives. Hasselblads have always been too expensive.

With Nikon's pro D3 I think the 1Ds3 is hugely overpriced now

stoked with mine. I have owned the 2 previous models prior to this (the 1DS2 for three years) & from my experience each new model has improvements significant enough to make the upgrade worthwhile.

dhphoto wrote:
rbranan wrote:
ridiculously high prices---up to the realm of medium format? go check out a new hassy

There are cheaper alternatives. Hasselblads have always been too expensive.

With Nikon's pro D3 I think the 1Ds3 is hugely overpriced now

At 21Mpixels... I dont think so

"If you are a CPS member (like I am) they should give you a loaner"

Good luck. CPS does not have any loaner 1DsMK3's. At least they didn't the week before last. They will loan you a MKII but most people needing a loaner MK3 already have a MKII.

kirstin wrote:
1ds III - Horizon 1 degree off, auto focus is flawless. Best focus I have ever used. The horizon issue is a big one though. I can't send it back for repair because funnily enough I need to use it for my job and I need to get paid all the time if I'm going to give canon £6000 for a dogs ass camera that has been assembled by a drunk. Frigging nightmare. Canon suck, That's a fact.

Why don't you tell us how you really feel?

I sympathize, but as a professional, I owe it to my clients never to put myself in a position where the loss of one item for repair would prevent me from working. I've had 3 products back to CPS just this year for out of warranty repair/adjustment/cleaning. That's just business.

With the risk of being flamed, Hassy the 503 cwd which I contemplated buying is a great camera, but f... me for 11 grand you don't even get a metering device (pme prisms are extra) not to mention autofocus. It's like back to stoneage, truelly the pictures are amazing.

margelatu wrote:
With the risk of being flamed, Hassy the 503 cwd which I contemplated buying is a great camera, but f... me for 11 grand you don't even get a metering device (pme prisms are extra) not to mention autofocus. It's like back to stoneage, truelly the pictures are amazing.


I used Hasselblads (film) for years and years in studios I worked in, I even had my own kit, lovely, tactile, expensive, a bit exclusive

That was until a fellow pro showed me the results he was getting with an RB67 at half the price. The lenses truly were sharper and had better contrast. THE BEST lens I have ever seen was a new 127mm RB lens.

Hasselblad, Shmasselblad, waste of money IMHO

David

dhphoto wrote:
With Nikon's pro D3 I think the 1Ds3 is hugely overpriced now

1.75x the pixels for 1.5x the price. Good value if detail matters to you.

brainiac wrote:
dhphoto wrote:
With Nikon's pro D3 I think the 1Ds3 is hugely overpriced now

1.75x the pixels for 1.5x the price. Good value if detail matters to you.

You and I both know it's just not that simple

price of new one is the problem

kirstin wrote:
1ds III - Horizon 1 degree off, auto focus is flawless.

Maybe the final fix to the 1D Mk III AF problems should be to change the sensor's alignment....

Happy shooting,
Yakim.

dhphoto wrote:
With Nikon's pro D3 I think the 1Ds3 is hugely overpriced now

The D3 is a sports camera (low MP high FPS), just like the 1D Mk III. The fact that it has an FF sensor and not 1.3X sensor is not relevant. Not long ago (after the D3 introduction) Chuck Westfall said they originally introduced the 1.3X format (AKA APS-H) to compete with the APS-C format. He also said that currently, the only advantage it has over FF is price. That indicates that Canon's next sports camera will either be cheaper or have an FF format.

In the next 6-12 months Nikon is expected to introduce a D3x with more than 20 MP and lower FPS. This will be the true competitor of the 1Ds Mk III.

Happy shooting,
Yakim.

I sympathize, but as a professional, I owe it to my clients never to put myself in a position where the loss of one item for repair would prevent me from working.

I have back up cameras coming out of my ears. nothing stops me working either mr pro fesssional. I don't however have a digital 21 mpx £6ooo camera spare lying around my money tree... I can shoot but I owe it to myself to use the best quality I have.

dhphoto wrote:
I am truly dismayed that Canon have allowed a viewfinder misalignment problem on such a hideously expensive dslr. I hadn't heard of that before. Their standards really are slipping

David

Tell you what, David, you go manufacture a few hundred thousand fabulously complex pieces of equipment and offer them for sale to a few hundred thousand fabulously anal-retentive photogrpahers---let us know how that works out for you.

kirstin wrote:
1ds III - Horizon 1 degree off, auto focus is flawless. Best focus I have ever used. The horizon issue is a big one though. I can't send it back for repair because funnily enough I need to use it for my job and I need to get paid all the time if I'm going to give canon £6000 for a dogs ass camera that has been assembled by a drunk. Frigging nightmare. Canon suck, That's a fact.

No serious professional that need the camera every day, would only work with one camera body. Sooner or later any camera you own will need service or repair

I have both Canon 1D and 1Ds MK3. Cannot be happier with both although sometimes I am tempted to blame the 1D MK3's AF 'problems' to explain some of my own mistakes. Did not own the other 1Ds, but when I got the 5D, I thought the image quality was great. It is VERY good but not great. The 1DS image quality is GREAT, especially when used with the UDMA cards. Don't understand why the 1DS costs almost twice the 1D, though.

To directly address your implied issues in selecting a new 1D Canon: First decide your intended use, display size and medium. The 1Ds Mk III is very a different camera than a l D Mk III. The, almost twice as expensive ,1Ds Mk III gives up many features/capabilities when compared to the Mk III for just one thing-more than double the resolution.

That's great if you print really big (24x36"and larger) but you give up shooting speed, buffer capacity, at least 1 stop of ISO, and the (advantage of) 1.274 magnification on a tele.

You also must deal with double size files (approx 25Mb RAWs that open up to about 200Mb 8 bit files and 16 bit 400Mb PSDs). That probably means another hard drive (array) and/or a new computer.

SoundHound wrote:
To directly address your implied issues in selecting a new 1D Canon: First decide your intended use, display size and medium. The 1Ds Mk III is very a different camera than a l D Mk III. The, almost twice as expensive ,1Ds Mk III gives up many features/capabilities when compared to the Mk III for just one thing-more than double the resolution.

That's great if you print really big (24x36"and larger) but you give up shooting speed, buffer capacity, at least 1 stop of ISO, and the (advantage of) 1.274 magnification on a tele.

You also must deal with double size files (approx 25Mb RAWs that open up to about 200Mb 8 bit files and 16 bit 400Mb PSDs). That probably means another hard drive (array) and/or a new computer.

See, that's the problem with what you said. Shooting the same subject (say a bird at 20m) with the same lens (say 600L) will give you more pixels on the bird with the 1Ds3 than with the 1D3. Even the 1Ds2 will give you the same pixels on the bird as the 1D3. The 1Ds3 has smaller & denser pixels than the 1D3. So you have actually less reach with a 1D3 than with a 1Ds3. Try it.

And having owned both (still own the 1Ds3), there's something about the image quality of the 1Ds3 that is hard to quantify, but that's outstanding. You don't need to print 24x36 to see it.

Mike Hoe wrote:
The 1DS image quality is GREAT, especially when used with the UDMA cards.

How does the UDMA card improve the image quality?

SoundHound wrote:
To directly address your implied issues in selecting a new 1D Canon: First decide your intended use, display size and medium. The 1Ds Mk III is very a different camera than a l D Mk III. The, almost twice as expensive ,1Ds Mk III gives up many features/capabilities when compared to the Mk III for just one thing-more than double the resolution.

That's great if you print really big (24x36"and larger) but you give up shooting speed, buffer capacity, at least 1 stop of ISO, and the (advantage of) 1.274 magnification on a tele.

You also must deal with double size files (approx 25Mb RAWs that open up to about 200Mb 8 bit files and 16 bit 400Mb PSDs). That probably means another hard drive (array) and/or a new computer.

A couple of corrections. In order to double resolution, you have to square the number of pixels, so to double the resolution of a 4mp camera , you need to go to 16mp camera, not that you need to double the resolution to see a difference.
1Dsm3 is full frame, but the pixel density is greater than the 1dm3 , so you have more pixels on the subject. 10mp x1.3 x1.3(crop factor) gives around 16mp full frame, whereas the 1Dsm3 is 21mp.
The 40D will actually give you more pixels on the subject than the 1Dsm3 or 1Dm3.
The files are not that large, an 8bit tiff is in the 60-70meg range, 16bit double that.

Sorry for the misunderstanding. I did not mean the UDMA card increases the IQ, just the speed in vewing the IQ.