Awesome post. I just wanted to add that Photo Works is a great site for things like digital wedding photo books.

Can anyone post some information in regards to contracts. Examples, etc.

thanks!

corkin wrote:
Can anyone post some information in regards to contracts. Examples, etc.

thanks!

They vary state to state. I can highly recommend looking into your local PPA, as they'll have contract information that is relevant to your state and issues.

-tmiller

This is a very significant pool of information for amateur and professionals!!!

Are wedding pictures significantly different/improved when taken with a Canon 20D/ 30D/40D/50D or a full frame camera, such as the 5D, when using the same lenses?
If so, what are the specifics?

jtphotography wrote:
This is a very significant pool of information for amateur and professionals!!!

Are wedding pictures significantly different/improved when taken with a Canon 20D/ 30D/40D/50D or a full frame camera, such as the 5D, when using the same lenses?
If so, what are the specifics?

That question is easily answered... it's not the camera, it's the photographer that makes the photograph.

FF is beautiful, but each tool (camera) has it's uses. I personally feel that the 1.3X crop of 1 Series cameras from Canon are the best bang for the buck, hands down.

-Tim

Thank you for your time. This is a great collection of wedding photography information.

-Shaun Roby
http://SunStreetPhoto.com

Thanks for sharing this forum. from this, i would learn more and get more ideas.
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Use zippo different styles and designs.

Seldex Australia for Albums. Victoria Street, Brunswick, VIC.

What a great collection of information, thank you so much for the effort!

Awesome resource Tim, thank you for making this.

IRISbook

Just got our sample last night. It's incredible. I would lean towards high-end, but it could fall under middle-range due to the fact that they're press-printed (on nice thick paper though). When I get a chance to take pics of it, I'll post a review as well.

Thank you Tim for this.

here are 2 very nice sources for royalty free music :

http://www.gemafreie-musik-online.de
http://www.massivetracks.net/royalty-free-music.htm

its completely free of any performing rights organisation

Very high end Italian wedding albums,


Photovalue I Nobili

a wedding album manufacturer I use, in Australia . www.lovelyvictorian.com.au

This was an interesting survey which looked at a range of photobooks, back in July of this year.

http://sharpernewyork.blogspot.com/2009/07/print-on-demand-book-test-results.html

People were asked to rate these categories on a scale of 1 to 10: color, detail, binding and cover, spread (gutter), paper, bang for the buck, overall.

AdoramaPix books are digital c-prints bound in a hardcover book, with 100% lay-flat bindings, and are printed on Fujifilm Crystal Archive Album photo paper -
rather than press printed, to avoid issues with color variations.

Sincerely

Helen Oster
Adorama Camera Customer Service Ambassador

helen.oster@adoramacamera.com
www.adorama.com

Thanks for posting this. I am looking forward to trying some different options.

oster wrote:
This was an interesting survey which looked at a range of photobooks, back in July of this year.

http://sharpernewyork.blogspot.com/2009/07/print-on-demand-book-test-results.html

People were asked to rate these categories on a scale of 1 to 10: color, detail, binding and cover, spread (gutter), paper, bang for the buck, overall.

AdoramaPix books are digital c-prints bound in a hardcover book, with 100% lay-flat bindings, and are printed on Fujifilm Crystal Archive Album photo paper -
rather than press printed, to avoid issues with color variations.

Sincerely

Helen Oster
Adorama Camera Customer Service Ambassador

helen.oster@adoramacamera.com
www.adorama.com

i adore adoramapix for printing - the 16x20 metallics have been especially amazing.

but... as much as i hate to say it, i was really disappointed with the quality of their photobooks. we got a couple a few months back and the outer binding was cracking within a week of opening and closing. the top where the binding is "gathered" was really messy. i wouldn't even consider them for proofing.

again - that aside - i love, love, love adoramapix. the customer service is beyond stellar and the quality of all my other purchases has been top-notch!

edited to remove info about pages - i was mistaken & it was another company's sample that had single-sided pages

Thanks for the heads up.

ksmahgrts wrote:
...but... as much as i hate to say it, i was really disappointed with the quality of their photobooks. we got a couple a few months back and the outer binding was cracking within a week of opening and closing. the top where the binding is "gathered" was really messy. and it was also super-cheesy to have single sided pages with the paper co. logo plastered all over the back. i wouldn't even consider them for proofing.

Nice work.

I've been using Lifetime Albums for the last 4 years. I would personally put them on the higher end part of the album list next to Kiss and Graphi. They also offer the lowest custom design service that I've seen.

For photo lab, I didn't see Bay Photo Lab on your list. I've been using them for years and very happy with their customer service and quality.

ksmahgrts wrote:
i adore adoramapix for printing - the 16x20 metallics have been especially amazing.

but... as much as i hate to say it, i was really disappointed with the quality of their photobooks. we got a couple a few months back and the outer binding was cracking within a week of opening and closing. the top where the binding is "gathered" was really messy. and it was also super-cheesy to have single sided pages with the paper co. logo plastered all over the back. i wouldn't even consider them for proofing.

again - that aside - i love, love, love adoramapix. the customer service is beyond stellar and the quality of all my other purchases has been top-notch!

I'm baffled by this. I've been using adoramapix books for a while now and:

"the outer binding was cracking within a week of opening and closing."
My wife uses one of these books to showcase her custom cakes at trade shows and by clients at her shop. Despite being handled by hundreds and hundreds of people over months, the binding has never cracked.

"the top where the binding is "gathered" was really messy"
Not sure what you mean by this either, can you provide an image? I have about 10 different photobooks sitting on my desk right now and upon close inspection none of them exhibit anything that sounds like this.

"super-cheesy to have single sided pages with the paper co. logo plastered all over the back"
How could you get a single-sided page? The way their binding works, each spread seems to be glued back to back with the next spread. If there were single-sided pages the book would have nothing holding it together. In dozens of book orders I've never seen a paper co. logo even once.

Are you sure you aren't confusing adoramapix with someone else? Perhaps you could provide some pictures?
-R

radical wrote:

"super-cheesy to have single sided pages with the paper co. logo plastered all over the back"
How could you get a single-sided page? The way their binding works, each spread seems to be glued back to back with the next spread. If there were single-sided pages the book would have nothing holding it together. In dozens of book orders I've never seen a paper co. logo even once.

Are you sure you aren't confusing adoramapix with someone else? Perhaps you could provide some pictures?
-R

actually - i do apologize for that last bit. the single sided was NOT the adoramapix book. the other feedback is accurate, however, and if i get some spare time, i wouldn't mind sharing images at all. please understand, it's not at the top of the priority list, though.

as i said in the initial reply - i love their printing - but the book was sub-par.

Tim,
Thank you for all of the wonderful info!!

No problem! Later this fall Ver. 2.0 is rolling out!

-Tim

Thanks!