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Tim Adams
Registered: Jan 01, 2004
Total Posts: 2852
Country: United States

Bill Gass wrote:
Tim Adams wrote:
Rodolfo Paiz wrote:
MMcGrath wrote:
For F1, the credentials you need are the ones that give access to the pit lane all times and the grid. Most of the folk that have these are part of the travelling circus that is F1, and shoot every race plus pre-season testing.

Tim Adams wrote:
That's the gig I want.


So send them a portfolio of your most highly awesomest images of airplanes and cars, and see if they'll hire you. Never hurts to ask. A guy with your images at the very least is going to get considered, not just disregarded.


Yes, but I can't follow the circuit all over the world though. Making boxes pays the bills.

What kinda boxes ?


Corrugated boxes, for Packaging Corporation of America.

http://www.packagingcorp.com/pages/location/48.php?lid=8



J Mosher
Registered: Dec 26, 2007
Total Posts: 174
Country: United States

astrobrian wrote:
Hearing that there will be a ceremony in Yuma MCAS for the new F-35B Sqdn. Anyone able to cover that tomorrow?


Saw a 3 ship on the flight tracker heading to Yuma. Saw on The Dew Line that they made it. Now hoping 1 or 2 make it to El Centro in March.

JM



JWilsonphoto
Registered: Jan 16, 2002
Total Posts: 18955
Country: United States

ironhide wrote:
Jim,
You must have great friends if you can access F1 credentials just by talking to friends Anywhere I've read about becoming a photographer with F1 is as hard as getting to the moon.

I would love to meet up with everyone from here in April for the MotoGP race. Should be warmer than it was this weekend for sure. Chilly around 6 am in the parking lots and baking under the sun mid-day. The circuit still is a bit rough around the edges but should be in far better shape next year in my view.

Mr Go4Long, MotoGP at Austin is on 19/20 April ( tickets - http://t.co/wJrJdmDi)



Sometimes the influence my clients/friends have boggles my mind. I try not to grin in amazement, because one supposed to take it as the normal course of a day's events, it's not cool to chuckle, on the outside. Still, it's pretty difficult to keep a nonchalant demeanor when you're in Dallas in the morning and shooting in places like the Oval Office, the Supreme Court chambers or a Fortune 100 board room a few hours later. The abject terror and adrenaline associated with the task at hand helps to keep you grounded though. I rarely, very rarely, avail myself of my client's generosity, but I know it's always there and it means a great deal that we have the kind of relationships we do. Whether this credential thing comes to fruition or not really isn't as important as the fact that a very busy, extremely successful client dropped what he was doing and got excited about doing something for a friend.



Angry
Registered: Nov 08, 2011
Total Posts: 1216
Country: Australia

JWilsonphoto wrote:
ironhide wrote:
Jim,
You must have great friends if you can access F1 credentials just by talking to friends Anywhere I've read about becoming a photographer with F1 is as hard as getting to the moon.

I would love to meet up with everyone from here in April for the MotoGP race. Should be warmer than it was this weekend for sure. Chilly around 6 am in the parking lots and baking under the sun mid-day. The circuit still is a bit rough around the edges but should be in far better shape next year in my view.

Mr Go4Long, MotoGP at Austin is on 19/20 April ( tickets - http://t.co/wJrJdmDi)



Sometimes the influence my clients/friends have boggles my mind. I try not to grin in amazement, because one supposed to take it as the normal course of a day's events, it's not cool to chuckle, on the outside. Still, it's pretty difficult to keep a nonchalant demeanor when you're in Dallas in the morning and shooting in places like the Oval Office, the Supreme Court chambers or a Fortune 100 board room a few hours later. The abject terror and adrenaline associated with the task at hand helps to keep you grounded though. I rarely, very rarely, avail myself of my client's generosity, but I know it's always there and it means a great deal that we have the kind of relationships we do. Whether this credential thing comes to fruition or not really isn't as important as the fact that a very busy, extremely successful client dropped what he was doing and got excited about doing something for a friend.



And ya gotta love that....good clients are great , great clients even better,...Clients who want to give something back,...even better again !!..

Al



astrobrian
Registered: Sep 27, 2012
Total Posts: 827
Country: United States

That defines what a true friend is Jim, perfect



astrobrian
Registered: Sep 27, 2012
Total Posts: 827
Country: United States

For those in the Austin area, I sent a note to the COTA folks seeing about use of that tower when nothing is going on at the track. A friend of mine had the idea of using it for a skyline at sunrise shot, and if the distance doesn't prove too far, there might be a couple goodies there. I'll let ya know if that is something that will be open or not.



JWilsonphoto
Registered: Jan 16, 2002
Total Posts: 18955
Country: United States

I caught a glimpse of downtown from an overpass or a hill on 130 the night I drove home. I think the distance will give you a bit of a challenge, but you never know until you try.



JWilsonphoto
Registered: Jan 16, 2002
Total Posts: 18955
Country: United States

I love surprising my clients with what I capture, but it's especially satisfying to have a client who has the world at his fingertips, literally, break out into a big smile when he's working with you, because he's having such a good time, and knows that we've gotten jaw dropping imagery....................



JWilsonphoto
Registered: Jan 16, 2002
Total Posts: 18955
Country: United States

BTW, that image is not cropped! Those Boys like to snuggle right up



Glenn Watson
Registered: Nov 13, 2007
Total Posts: 3779
Country: United States

ironhide wrote:

Very Very Expensive Around $15K or so - http://www.statesman.com/news/news/local/rv-spots-for-f1-race-weekend-going-for-top-dolla-1/nRqRc/



$15k eh? So JW you pickup the RV parking space and i'll cover the hot dogs!



Shaggy Wolf
Registered: Jan 20, 2011
Total Posts: 629
Country: N/A

JWilsonphoto wrote:
ironhide wrote:
Jim,
You must have great friends if you can access F1 credentials just by talking to friends Anywhere I've read about becoming a photographer with F1 is as hard as getting to the moon.

I would love to meet up with everyone from here in April for the MotoGP race. Should be warmer than it was this weekend for sure. Chilly around 6 am in the parking lots and baking under the sun mid-day. The circuit still is a bit rough around the edges but should be in far better shape next year in my view.

Mr Go4Long, MotoGP at Austin is on 19/20 April ( tickets - http://t.co/wJrJdmDi)



Sometimes the influence my clients/friends have boggles my mind. I try not to grin in amazement, because one supposed to take it as the normal course of a day's events, it's not cool to chuckle, on the outside. Still, it's pretty difficult to keep a nonchalant demeanor when you're in Dallas in the morning and shooting in places like the Oval Office, the Supreme Court chambers or a Fortune 100 board room a few hours later. The abject terror and adrenaline associated with the task at hand helps to keep you grounded though. I rarely, very rarely, avail myself of my client's generosity, but I know it's always there and it means a great deal that we have the kind of relationships we do. Whether this credential thing comes to fruition or not really isn't as important as the fact that a very busy, extremely successful client dropped what he was doing and got excited about doing something for a friend.


I gotta buy myself some camera gear like you have, so that I can take pictures like you and get these gigs

.....whatya mean that won't help?



Wrei
Registered: Aug 01, 2008
Total Posts: 2912
Country: United States

Glenn, careful, the hamburger buffet in the grandstand was $20.00, but it included a glass of water, not bottled water, a glass of water.



JWilsonphoto
Registered: Jan 16, 2002
Total Posts: 18955
Country: United States

Shaggy Wolf wrote:
JWilsonphoto wrote:
ironhide wrote:
Jim,
You must have great friends if you can access F1 credentials just by talking to friends Anywhere I've read about becoming a photographer with F1 is as hard as getting to the moon.

I would love to meet up with everyone from here in April for the MotoGP race. Should be warmer than it was this weekend for sure. Chilly around 6 am in the parking lots and baking under the sun mid-day. The circuit still is a bit rough around the edges but should be in far better shape next year in my view.

Mr Go4Long, MotoGP at Austin is on 19/20 April ( tickets - http://t.co/wJrJdmDi)



Sometimes the influence my clients/friends have boggles my mind. I try not to grin in amazement, because one supposed to take it as the normal course of a day's events, it's not cool to chuckle, on the outside. Still, it's pretty difficult to keep a nonchalant demeanor when you're in Dallas in the morning and shooting in places like the Oval Office, the Supreme Court chambers or a Fortune 100 board room a few hours later. The abject terror and adrenaline associated with the task at hand helps to keep you grounded though. I rarely, very rarely, avail myself of my client's generosity, but I know it's always there and it means a great deal that we have the kind of relationships we do. Whether this credential thing comes to fruition or not really isn't as important as the fact that a very busy, extremely successful client dropped what he was doing and got excited about doing something for a friend.


I gotta buy myself some camera gear like you have, so that I can take pictures like you and get these gigs

.....whatya mean that won't help?



Did I say that out loud Shaggy?



JWilsonphoto
Registered: Jan 16, 2002
Total Posts: 18955
Country: United States

Glenn Watson wrote:
ironhide wrote:

Very Very Expensive Around $15K or so - http://www.statesman.com/news/news/local/rv-spots-for-f1-race-weekend-going-for-top-dolla-1/nRqRc/



$15k eh? So JW you pickup the RV parking space and i'll cover the hot dogs!




Careful Glenn, you have no idea how many hot dogs I can pack away when I'm walking all over heck's half acre for three or four days, schlepping long lenses.



Glenn Watson
Registered: Nov 13, 2007
Total Posts: 3779
Country: United States

I read the link attached to Ram's post - $15k is for a whole year, and includes at least 4 races, so its really on $3500 for the F1 race! Now its getting to be a good deal...



edit - man i hate getting caught with my pants down on a top page post!



Glenn



stevezzzz
Registered: Aug 01, 2010
Total Posts: 4060
Country: United States

I've been gone a few days; Marcia and I drove to Santa Fe for a long weekend. Of course, I brought the D800 along in case anything presented itself in the photographic line. Gotta love the late afternoon light in New Mexico...



stevezzzz
Registered: Aug 01, 2010
Total Posts: 4060
Country: United States

In the Rio Grande Gorge, south of Taos.



mikegeng
Registered: Oct 06, 2009
Total Posts: 336
Country: United States

Whoever wrote that MotoGP credentials are tough and limited is correct. They limit access to only 2-3 photogs from certain countries and for MotoGP at Indy this year I believe the total count was only around 33 or so photogs. They are one of the few series that also charges a fee, even for photojournalists, and it is STEEP. I tried shooting it this year and the publication didn't want to shell out the money as editorially it is not their sweet spot. Some tracks, depending on their agreement with the series or event, often have an allocation of vests they can give out. Again, depending on the series, you may have restrictions even with that vest on where you can go and what you can do. For IndyCar, if they catch you shooting video with your SLR....you be gone in a hurry. During a live race, only video guys on the start grid for certain series. It's all good though, plenty of good stuff to be had.

The best F1 photog, and perhaps just best racing photog, who truly makes art, is Darren Heath. He spends days before a race walking to discover the light and new shots versus prior years if he is going to the same facility. He is my benchmark in this game: http://www.darrenheath.com/



Bill Gass
Registered: Feb 09, 2006
Total Posts: 4104
Country: United States

Angry wrote:
JWilsonphoto wrote:
ironhide wrote:
Jim,
You must have great friends if you can access F1 credentials just by talking to friends Anywhere I've read about becoming a photographer with F1 is as hard as getting to the moon.

I would love to meet up with everyone from here in April for the MotoGP race. Should be warmer than it was this weekend for sure. Chilly around 6 am in the parking lots and baking under the sun mid-day. The circuit still is a bit rough around the edges but should be in far better shape next year in my view.

Mr Go4Long, MotoGP at Austin is on 19/20 April ( tickets - http://t.co/wJrJdmDi)



Sometimes the influence my clients/friends have boggles my mind. I try not to grin in amazement, because one supposed to take it as the normal course of a day's events, it's not cool to chuckle, on the outside. Still, it's pretty difficult to keep a nonchalant demeanor when you're in Dallas in the morning and shooting in places like the Oval Office, the Supreme Court chambers or a Fortune 100 board room a few hours later. The abject terror and adrenaline associated with the task at hand helps to keep you grounded though. I rarely, very rarely, avail myself of my client's generosity, but I know it's always there and it means a great deal that we have the kind of relationships we do. Whether this credential thing comes to fruition or not really isn't as important as the fact that a very busy, extremely successful client dropped what he was doing and got excited about doing something for a friend.



And ya gotta love that....good clients are great , great clients even better,...Clients who want to give something back,...even better again "

Al

You're right astrobrian...
" That's what friends are for ! "



Bill Gass
Registered: Feb 09, 2006
Total Posts: 4104
Country: United States

Tim Adams wrote:
Bill Gass wrote:
Tim Adams wrote:
Rodolfo Paiz wrote:
MMcGrath wrote:
For F1, the credentials you need are the ones that give access to the pit lane all times and the grid. Most of the folk that have these are part of the travelling circus that is F1, and shoot every race plus pre-season testing.

Tim Adams wrote:
That's the gig I want.


So send them a portfolio of your most highly awesomest images of airplanes and cars, and see if they'll hire you. Never hurts to ask. A guy with your images at the very least is going to get considered, not just disregarded.


Yes, but I can't follow the circuit all over the world though. Making boxes pays the bills.

What kinda boxes ?


Corrugated boxes, for Packaging Corporation of America.

http://www.packagingcorp.com/pages/location/48.php?lid=8

Thanks Tim.



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