AA rechargeable batteries
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jo53mo
Registered: Feb 21, 2006
Total Posts: 211
Country: United States

Can someone recommend AA rechargeable batteries for the SB800 flash?



James Eaton
Registered: Sep 17, 2006
Total Posts: 82
Country: United States

Duracell or Energizer 2500ma are more than sufficient. I use 2500 in my 580EX and get approx 250 flashes per charge.



jhom
Registered: Jan 01, 2005
Total Posts: 2987
Country: United States

You might what to consider the low discharge NiMh batteries. Thomas Distributing has a nice selection. http://www.thomas-distributing.com/index.htm

Jim



sjms
Registered: Mar 21, 2003
Total Posts: 6829
Country: United States

James Eaton wrote:
Duracell or Energizer 2500ma are more than sufficient. I use 2500 in my 580EX and get approx 250 flashes per charge.


it is unfortunate that my experience with the energizer batts has been less then enthusiastic. yes they do work well hot off the charger. but it seems they seem to have the highest self discarge rate of its type in the market. they need to be under constant charge and after just a few days in a bag rapidly become dead weight. i have pretty much given up on them as a useful part of my kit.



dirb9
Registered: Oct 18, 2005
Total Posts: 640
Country: United States

Maha Powerex 2700s if you use them often enough (enough to need a charge more than every few weeks). I'd avoid the Duracell and Energizer batteries, frankly, as often overrate their batteries and have extremely high discharge rates. If you don't want to have to charge your batteries frequently, go for the low discharge cells; the Eneloops are the best low discharge cells on the market right now. Also make sure to get a good charger. A bad (timed) charger will kill batteries faster than anything else. A good charger will have a - delta V cutoff and individual charging channels. If you plan of going through batteries a lot, a charger like the Maha C800s or C801d would be nice, as they have eight slots. Otherwise, a charger like the c401fs will be fine.



Jack M
Registered: Nov 28, 2004
Total Posts: 503
Country: United States

Saw these in Walmart last night. http://www.rayovac.com/recharge/hybrid_technology.shtml

$10 for 4 with a charger.

I quit using rechargables in my flashes because regular AA's lasted longer and I didn't have to worry about carrying a charger. I might have look into it again.



sjms
Registered: Mar 21, 2003
Total Posts: 6829
Country: United States

a review of the sanyo eneloop battery

http://www.imaging-resource.com/ACCS/ENE/LOOP.HTM



dcains
Registered: Oct 09, 2005
Total Posts: 3929
Country: United States

Sanyo's eneloops really are amazing, despite their lower mAh ratings. Get yourself a good charger, too, which can make all the difference. Thomas Distributing is a great vendor, and I like the MAHA chargers. Avoid the 15-minute quick chargers, and instead buy yourself an extra set of batteries if you need to.



sjms
Registered: Mar 21, 2003
Total Posts: 6829
Country: United States

Jack M wrote:
Saw these in Walmart last night. http://www.rayovac.com/recharge/hybrid_technology.shtml

$10 for 4 with a charger.

I quit using rechargables in my flashes because regular AA's lasted longer and I didn't have to worry about carrying a charger. I might have look into it again.


yep the horses are out of the gate. i currently count about 8 different brandings of the new tech NiMh products.
now the next round will be the slow ratcheting up of the mah values in said products. yet another reason to maintain their ad accounts.

Ref: http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/595629



jo53mo
Registered: Feb 21, 2006
Total Posts: 211
Country: United States

Thanks for all the replies,,,,,,, Joe



4x4rock
Registered: May 04, 2005
Total Posts: 778
Country: United States

Costco is currently selling the Sanyo Eneloop for $19.99 ($25.99-$6 rebates.) It comes with 8 AA, 4 AAA and a charger.

Sale ends 12/31



Gary Harfield
Registered: Mar 22, 2005
Total Posts: 1191
Country: United States

Maha Powerex 2700s have a 5-year warrenty, buy them at
http://www.thomas-distributing.com/index.htm



Jorgen Udvang
Registered: Aug 01, 2005
Total Posts: 1117
Country: Thailand

One more vote for Eneloop. They keep their charge forever. A very problem free battery.



Gary Harfield
Registered: Mar 22, 2005
Total Posts: 1191
Country: United States

I just read about the Sanyo Eneloop batteries, and I'm not impressed when I compare them to my PowerEx 2700 batteries.



HAHAH look I see another ENEloop type battery
http://thomasdistributing.com/shop/product_info.php?cPath=122_104_106&products_id=1020&SP_id=68



dirb9
Registered: Oct 18, 2005
Total Posts: 640
Country: United States

Gary Harfield wrote:
I just read about the Sanyo Eneloop batteries, and I'm not impressed when I compare them to my PowerEx 2700 batteries.



HAHAH look I see another ENEloop type battery
http://thomasdistributing.com/shop/product_info.php?cPath=122_104_106&products_id=1020&SP_id=68


Have you used the Eneloop batteries? They are extremely nice. You lose a relatively negligible amount of capacity, but you also don't lost about 5% a week like you do with normal Ni-MH batteries. As for the other LSD (low discharge batteries), there are quite a few brands out now, including Kodak, Uniross, Ansmann, etc. Most tests have shown the Eneloops coming out on top, although the Powerex Imedion are so new that no one's really had a chance to test them fully yet.

As for the Eneloop package at Costco, look for the one that has the NC-MQN05 battery charger, which is a fairly nice four channel sensing charger. Sanyo seems to be replacing it with the NC-MQN06 charger, which is an inferior two channel charger, but keeping everything else the same, right down to the barcode.



sjms
Registered: Mar 21, 2003
Total Posts: 6829
Country: United States

Gary Harfield wrote:
I just read about the Sanyo Eneloop batteries, and I'm not impressed when I compare them to my PowerEx 2700 batteries.



HAHAH look I see another ENEloop type battery
http://thomasdistributing.com/shop/product_info.php?cPath=122_104_106&products_id=1020&SP_id=68


try this

take your 2700 batts and throw them in your bag for about a month in your flash unused. then whip it out and start shooting and see how many shots you get out of them.

do the same with the eneloop ones. i think then you might notice the difference in usability. i have a few sets of the maha 2700 too.

i just pulled out my 2700 maha cells (8) and had to put them on charge as they were flat as a pancake after a month.
yes a 5 yr warrantee is nice but it only covers failure to charge not the need to charge due to self discharge.


Edited by sjms on Dec 10, 2007 at 07:43 AM GMT



sjms
Registered: Mar 21, 2003
Total Posts: 6829
Country: United States

dirb9 wrote:
Gary Harfield wrote:
I just read about the Sanyo Eneloop batteries, and I'm not impressed when I compare them to my PowerEx 2700 batteries.



HAHAH look I see another ENEloop type battery
http://thomasdistributing.com/shop/product_info.php?cPath=122_104_106&products_id=1020&SP_id=68


Have you used the Eneloop batteries? They are extremely nice. You lose a relatively negligible amount of capacity, but you also don't lost about 5% a week like you do with normal Ni-MH batteries. As for the other LSD (low discharge batteries), there are quite a few brands out now, including Kodak, Uniross, Ansmann, etc. Most tests have shown the Eneloops coming out on top, although the Powerex Imedion are so new that no one's really had a chance to test them fully yet.

As for the Eneloop package at Costco, look for the one that has the NC-MQN05 battery charger, which is a fairly nice four channel sensing charger. Sanyo seems to be replacing it with the NC-MQN06 charger, which is an inferior two channel charger, but keeping everything else the same, right down to the barcode.


the NC-MQN05U has 1 basic flaw in my book. its input voltage is only rated for 100-120vac. so it is no world voltage charger.



Gary Harfield
Registered: Mar 22, 2005
Total Posts: 1191
Country: United States

SOP for PowerEx Batteries or any rechargeables for that matter is to charge them the night before your job. But I have many sets of 4 so I can keep 12 on the charger at all times.

I also rotate my batteries so they all get used.



sjms
Registered: Mar 21, 2003
Total Posts: 6829
Country: United States

i have 8 of those 2700 powerex's sitting on the charger right now. and the other day they were there too and a had to shoot with some fill just kinda forgot them. the eneloops in the flash (now in over a month and a half) and the extra set in my bag still untouched popped 30 shots off. as of today i still haven't touched them. i just turned the flash on and instant red pilot light and did another 20 or so test whacks w/o the pilot going out. thanks for reminding me that i should give them a refresh charge just in case



Gary Harfield
Registered: Mar 22, 2005
Total Posts: 1191
Country: United States

Ok, So maybe I should buy into thease new batteries, but I'll need at least 20 batteries.

I can get 5 packs of 4AA for 58.13 with shipping included from thomas distributing. But then I have all my other powerEx batteries sitting around.



sjms
Registered: Mar 21, 2003
Total Posts: 6829
Country: United States

maybe you should get an 8 pack and try them first and see if they are to your taste. i'm not a big flash whacker. i only use it for augmentation. so its and they (the batts) are there when needed. if i know i'm going out to seriously shoot with a flash i end up with my HV pack and use the eneloops for the flash brain.

circuit city occasionlly has them (8 pack) for $15 on sale



Rodney O
Registered: Dec 10, 2006
Total Posts: 395
Country: United States

4x4rock,

Can you post the link for the Sanyo eneloop batteries and charger deal that you mentioned?

Costco is currently selling the Sanyo Eneloop for $19.99 ($25.99-$6 rebates.) It comes with 8 AA, 4 AAA and a charger.

Can't find them searching thru their internet store.

Thanks
Rodney O



sjms
Registered: Mar 21, 2003
Total Posts: 6829
Country: United States

forgot about them. blue box in the tool/battery isle



gbee
Registered: May 21, 2004
Total Posts: 1600
Country: Ireland

Rodger that.

dirb9 wrote: I'd avoid the Duracell and Energizer batteries, frankly, as often overrate their batteries and have extremely high discharge rates. .



gbee
Registered: May 21, 2004
Total Posts: 1600
Country: Ireland

Rodger that, am a recent convert to Eneloop ~ because they are so good I ran out of juice after ten days ~ see I'm usually recharging every second or third day ~ And the report is correct too about the fit, had not noticed this before, but I know I've broken all the fins on my CP-E2 pack ~ now I beleive it was the oversized high capacity batteries at fault.

sjms wrote:
a review of the sanyo eneloop battery

http://www.imaging-resource.com/ACCS/ENE/LOOP.HTM



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