Godzilla Vs. Bambi (Hassy 39MP vs D2X)
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Sean Mills
Registered: Jun 29, 2007
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OK, got it.
I'm exploiting this thread to answer all my own MF questions as well as 'ohhh and ahhh' at the first image posted. Thanks much for the answers!



PKuglin
Registered: May 04, 2003
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kdphotography wrote:
When changing lenses on a DSLR (ala 5D), the camera sensor is exposed to the open air, creating the opportunity for the dust to gather on the sensor. MFDBs remain on the back of the camera the same as the MF film back. When changing lenses, the sensor is never exposed (actually it would be the glass filter over the sensor).


In a DSLR isn't the sensor behind the shutter and not directly exposed to the open air? On the MF using either a film or digital back - what is different? Is there something else between the shutter and the sensor?

I would think in either case - allowing dirty air (air with dust) into the lens camber would allow dust to hit the sensor when the shutter is open. I don't see the difference.



roberto1979
Registered: Dec 30, 2006
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i understand the interesting aspect of this thread, but is it really that hard to believe? you get what you pay for. i can blow up pictures shot with my P&S and show just how much my 5D and L lens blow it away. if you spend 10 times as much you better get some pretty damn impressive results, like are shown here.



tom cardin
Registered: Mar 08, 2005
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A little knowledge is a dangerous thing... I thought that I would check on the price of a Digi back for my Bronica. No I didn't want to hock the house. I like your illustration..
Tom



madmax200
Registered: Aug 16, 2005
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I agree that dynamic range and bits are important. I am always limited by the dynamic range with my 1ds2. Its the number one thing I fight when snapping a shot.

But if your a landscape and animal shooter what do you do to replace your 500-600f4 when your shooting medium? You would have to carry both cameras I guess. Thats an even more expensive solution.

I am going to rent a P45 for m next trip to Yosemite. Im going to bolt it on to my RRS pano head and shoot some wicked 2x14 panos of the park.

I will post them when I get back.



Sam Gillespie
Registered: Mar 25, 2007
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Pffft. P*$$ take :-(
Maybe a few decades.



Weiyang Liu
Registered: Sep 17, 2006
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Country: Canada

... ... ... You have shown me the light........ *sniff*.... i don't know if i can go back to my 20D now. Maybe I'll have to shoot a pic with a P&S and compare that with my camera.



Weiyang Liu
Registered: Sep 17, 2006
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Country: Canada

what lens did you use for the Hassy and the Nikon?



gordon l
Registered: Aug 17, 2005
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Paratima wrote:
Dayum!

And for ONLY $28,795...

Edited by Paratima on Aug 15, 2007 at 09:58 PM GMT


I just paid that much for a new car. Guess I need to sell the car and walk to all these great landscape locations with my gear.

Gordon



kdphotography
Registered: Dec 22, 2005
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madmax200 wrote:
But if your a landscape and animal shooter what do you do to replace your 500-600f4 when your shooting medium? You would have to carry both cameras I guess. Thats an even more expensive solution.
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I don't think there is a viable MFDB option for shooting wildlife----focus is generally not fast with MF, and focal lengths are limited. DSLRs are much better suited for wildlife shooting......



David Estes
Registered: Sep 07, 2006
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I've never Dreamed of stealing anything, till now.
It's your fault I'm going into a life of crime.



Gonzalo Tudela
Registered: Sep 19, 2006
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well, you get what you pay for...



Marc Adamus
Registered: May 15, 2006
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The first thing I would ask myself before buying is; how many 20x30 or larger prints do I expect to sell each year. If the answer is less than say....a few dozen, I'd save my money. That many pixels are just a waste for many practical applications like book/magazine publications. If I'm a big print afficianado, I probably would cry when looking at a 30x50 though.



tom cardin
Registered: Mar 08, 2005
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Love the comments, on resoloution. Remember when there was a race, between film and lens makers, to see if the lenses could resolve more than the film could record, and vice -versa? Sounds like we are back at the starting gate.
We win again.
Tom



radioblurs
Registered: Aug 26, 2005
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well, that's just great-now i'm gonna have to sell my home so i can buy one-it's better not knowing what medium format can do, i guess-geez-oh yeah, very nice shot by the way

daniel



Jeff Phillips
Registered: Mar 04, 2007
Total Posts: 155
Country: United States

If you look at a picture of Medusa from a DSLR you think "she is ugly". If you look at a picture of Medusa from a 39MP back you turn to stone. Maybe I'll take up golf now or travel the world and paint pictures. Cheaper then buy a Phase One. Nice work...



PeepingTom
Registered: Aug 04, 2006
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Roman- you made your point very well; thanks for sharing



RKnecht
Registered: Jul 17, 2005
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Thanks for posting this. If you didn't warn me first, I would have been pissed :P



ValerieUSA
Registered: Aug 18, 2002
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YIKES! That's so sharp it stabbed my eyes!



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