Stunnaz wrote:
Have we decided if it's weather-sealed or not based on the Amazon description?

they said it has some sealing against dust.

Actually it says...

"upgraded dust- and weather-resistant construction"

Looks like it has weather sealing from what they said.

I think leaving the micro-adjust feature off was genius, I think way too many people would have gotten themselves in trouble with it.

Did you notice in the last amazon specs that the 40d was up to #21 in sales for cameras on the site. This 'mistake' got them plenty of orders lol.

The Auto ISO setting would be a handy feature (About time we had a auto ISO setting).

For the first time in any EOS camera, the 40D model offers Auto ISO capability in Creative Zone exposure modes. This valuable new feature adjusts the ISO speed to the optimal setting based on low light or shaky shooting conditions.

but print button rocks !!!!

A replacement grip. I'm supposing that might translate into 'jee that last one was a peice of crap for the money, were too embarassed to continuing selling it'

Steve

pixelman wrote:
but print button rocks !!!!

A replacement grip. I'm supposing that might translate into 'jee that last one was a peice of crap for the money, were too embarassed to continuing selling it'

Steve

More a case of 'we sealed the body, now how about the grip?'

The 40D is not weather sealed it is weather resistant. Thats a big difference in my book. The 1 series are weather sealed everywhere. It is still a big improvement from non weather resistant.

The specs say with upgraded dust- and weather-resistant construction, particularly around the camera's connection ports, battery compartment, and single-slot compact flash (CF) memory card door.

Bruce Sawle wrote:
The 40D is not weather sealed it is weather resistant. Thats a big difference in my book. The 1 series are weather sealed everywhere. It is still a big improvement from non weather resistant.

The specs say with upgraded dust- and weather-resistant construction, particularly around the camera's connection ports, battery compartment, and single-slot compact flash (CF) memory card door.
So that means "some" protection from dust/spray! Right

pixelman wrote:
""How about the fact that opening the cf door doesn't shut the camera down anymore? Canon actually listens to customers?""

Took seven years. Not sure if that is listening. Seems more like randomly hitting on something by accident.

You must be an eagles/phillies fan. Come on, they put everything we could realistically expect in a $1300 camera. I hope that price holds, because there is going to be huge demand for a while.

oh... I still would have liked micro adjust AF... and I'd totally be willing to mess myself up with it...

I also think that this 40D is about as good as we could have really hoped for... I know I personally am content with the specs.

Typo in the specs:

"The speed of the EOS 40D SLR comes from Canon's balanced combination of its latest processor, DIGIC IIII "

What the hell is "IIII" last time I remember it was "III".

And four is IV anyway.

inorman wrote:
Typo in the specs:

"The speed of the EOS 40D SLR comes from Canon's balanced combination of its latest processor, DIGIC IIII "

What the hell is "IIII" last time I remember it was "III".

And four is IV anyway.

The guy typing it up in Amazon was probably shivering with excitement.

Stunnaz wrote:
Have we decided if it's weather-sealed or not based on the Amazon description?
It will be weather sealed, - but not as rough as the 1D series
(Call it partial weather-sealing if you will)

Rubber Soul wrote:
Matt Tilghman wrote:
Canon has some new, breakthrough features in the works, so they aren't worried about reserving these features for their top models anymore. Once the new features come out, their top models will once again be significantly separated from the X0D's.


But the 1DsmkIII and 1DmkIII are new models that were (or will be) released in 2007. If Canon stays true to their history, neither professional model will see a real upgrade again until the year 2010. I doubt that Canon is holding back on any new technology for future models.

I think it's incredible that Canon decided to implement so many professional features into a prosumer model. The 10 MP sensor, 3" LCD, and dust reduction were a given. Bigger viewfinder, sRAW, and wireless were a mild surprise.

But weather sealing? 14-bit RAW? 6.5 fps? Dual high precision center AF point? All other AF points became cross type? Interchangeable focus screens? If someone told me last week that the EOS 40D would have all these things, I would've dismissed it as a fanboy's wishful thinking.

Just my thoughs exactly!

I know it's a bit premature, - but can't stop thinking what the 50D will be like. What can they possible improve (except for the sensor, - which I am very much in doubt they actually can improve, - but even if they could I wouldn't imagine that they actually would)

Angus MacGyver wrote:
I can think of some features they weren't able to include in the 40D: AF micro-adjustment, built-in wireless, built-in AF assist light (w/o using the pop-up flash), dedicated/programmable MLU button, native ISO3200 or extended IS06400... =P

Ahh, you could be right
The AF micro-adjustment could be,
Build-in wireless is definately a possibility, - but somehow I just can't imagine that we are getting that before Sony and Pentax have done it for a while.
Native ISO 3200 and/or extend to ISO 6400 might be possible with the current sensor, - and therefore might be one of the things that'll be new for 50D

BTW I believe we will get a 5D before the 50D (might already be in feb (for the 5D, - but the 50D - it will be in 18 months i.e. in feb 2009)), - but I also believe that's the only high end DSLR we'll get before that.

Edited by DaDane on Aug 19, 2007 at 08:37 PM GMT

It might be wise to deadpan this release and it's features....lest the price increase by $500..... no - they wouldn't do that would they?
I think it looks like a piece of junk, And no dedicated MLU - shame.

I'm pinching myself. I can't believe they put all that in there for $1,300.
Canon really needed to do something like this, and i'm thrilled they apparently have done it.
My conspiracy side still thinks someone hacked the Amazon site and loaded the specs up as a lark..... i'm thinking the official Canon announcement can only be a couple days away.

No, this won't be truly a weather sealed 1D with micro AF adjustment, agreed. However. it sounds like the AF accuracy just took a big leap forward. 6.5fps. Bigger buffer. Better weather resistance. Custom focussing screens available.
But a "Mini-1D" for $1,300.00? Sold!

Nill Toulme wrote:
BennyR wrote:
I was hopin' for a VF improvement but the rest looks quite good.
...

VF = viewfinder?

"Canon extends its 'ease-of-reading' policy to the EOS 40D SLR's viewfinder as well. The upgraded viewfinder increases optical magnification from 0.90x to 0.95x, expands the viewing angle from 251 degrees to 264 degrees and raises the eye point from 20mm to 22mm."

I hope they've toned down the shutter racket to match the nice quiet 400D.

Nill
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www.toulme.net


more than you know!
it has silent liveview shooting mode even at 6.5fps. didn't have time to read caerfully, but something about, unlike mkiii, also be able to do some AF even during liveview in some way or another. maybe it drops mirror down for a second, too much info, haven't time to read carefully yet.

anyway, aside from apparent lack of lens calibration (which does stink means still sending to canon mess, ugh), quite promising! looks like it is now time to upgrade!

5Dmkii rumors also interesting. it might be able to take EF-S lenses in a reduced 6.5MP crop mode, all the MkIV might as well. might allow xxD to eventually go at least 1.3. all that is a while off though, 3-4 years, aside from 5D. dont think i could wait for 5dmkii though. sports seasons will be just about over by the time that ever gets released perhaps next spring.

(just hope the new af can use the outer sensors in some expansion way at least a tad like the mkiii, although a few hidden would've been nice. high iso should at least not be worse than 20D. if other rumors are to be believed, and they are the sensibel ones taht did pretty much exactly match these details, we may get the superior high iso feature in 2010 or so.)

anyway, gotta go, in a rush.

legjenda wrote:
DIGIC III?

Of course.

Matt Tilghman wrote:
Hmm...I was set on upgrading to a 5D later this year, but now I may have to wait and see.

These high-level features are very exciting. While I'm sure it has a lot to do with fighting back to Nikon, part of me thinks that Canon has some new, breakthrough features in the works, so they aren't worried about reserving these features for their top models anymore. Once the new features come out, their top models will once again be significantly separated from the X0D's.

i think those northlight rumors that some were deriding the other day might have a lot of truth in them and might explain the lack of fear and waht the secrets may be. so far they fit exactly the amazon stuff. and they, along with the spansih rumors, sounded the most reasonable overal of any.

Damn, now that we have a more definite date, I'm going to have to go out there and sell my kidney... looks like it will be worth it.

Tentacle wrote:
Angus MacGyver wrote:
I can think of some features they weren't able to include in the 40D: AF micro-adjustment, built-in wireless, built-in AF assist light (w/o using the pop-up flash), dedicated/programmable MLU button, native ISO3200 or extended IS06400... =P

I think the micro-adjustment is something they could, but were not willing to add. It's a serious high-end option, for those who really know what they are doing, and have the equipment to make good use of it. It makes sense to leave this as a 1D series-only option.


not so sure. they must get more returns for calibration from the mid-level users than anyone else i bet, pickier than the avg rebel owner, more numerous than the 1series owners (who sometimes are not even remotely picky at times i have seen some use seriously decentered lenses and not care saying ah jsut for the paper, whatever).

once upon a time they used to release a CD to all users that allowed this to be done by PC.

they may be afraid of people mucking stuff up, but seriously, how hard is it to just reset everything back to zero? but these days that is considered diffiicult...

wonder if it implies that the camera does not have the smaller DOF tolerance for fast lenses AF that the 1-series do??

anyway, at least the other stuff all looks very cool.