I really wonder why they would make it 1.13? Kinda silly, why not just make the damn thing 1x so people don't complain.

Did Nikon ever say it was a 1.13? Complain to the guy who started the rumour.

grmedhat1 wrote:
Did Nikon ever say it was a 1.13? Complain to the guy who started the rumour.

No, Nikon did not say that. The 1.13x thought has been bouncing around the forums.

davewolfs wrote:
I really wonder why they would make it 1.13? Kinda silly, why not just make the damn thing 1x so people don't complain.
Well, if you read the thread there (post #17) you will see it's due to the process of manufacturing of the sensor. Of course, that post is a rehash of dpr... But anyway, it seems to make sense.

yeah and for the snotty Canon guys the sensor in the 5D is a bit smaller than FF as well

35.8 x 23.9 mm CMOS sensor , oh the devil in the details

Yet for any interest in this thing it has to be more compelling than "just" a larger sensor from them to get any more money from me for a long time


J

zoetmb wrote:
Where is this D3 news on the Nikonians site? I can't find it.

Finding anything on the Nikonians site is a problem, isn't it??

Antony wrote:
Well, it is great news, no doubt about it, because extra competition means lower prices for all. That said, a 1.13x crop does not equal FF.


You are aware that the 5D isn't FF either. Granted it is closer to FF than the leaked specs for the D3, but a 16mm on a 5d will effectively be 16.5, and it will be 17.6 on the D3.

If this is true, and the Price point is comparable to the 1D Mk III, ie no more than 4999, then you are looking at an awesome camera.

And what's more, Nikon has made it so the DX lenses are still usable on this camera.

JCDoss wrote:
zoetmb wrote:
Where is this D3 news on the Nikonians site? I can't find it.

Finding anything on the Nikonians site is a problem, isn't it??

It's here in the D1/D2/D3 group.

It's an interesting story but the 'specs' are all this or this so I doubt the man in Japan had any valuable inside information. I think Nikonians are trying to generate traffic (ie revenue) the National Inquirer way. Time will tell.

so with every body set on the full frame train..... what happens if we find out that the D3 is actually DX format.....

oh, and by the way,
i sure as hell hope one of those 8 new lenses is a 28mm f1.4 AF-S

Having read the thread 'm still trying to find the 'credible' part of this report. The 1.11-1.13 is a guess as admitted. It's like finding a piece of paper on the ground with D3 specs scratched onto it and holding it like the holy grail.

It's actually 1.05x not the speculated 1.1x.

One of the lenses to be released is a 85mm f1.1 AFS VR macro that comes with an available adapter for perspective control which also gives it another 17mm focal length when mounted. So it effectively would be a 102mm macro with tilt shift. Interestingly the PC adapter is made almost entirely of metals! with the main body section cast in a mag alloy.

Qranc wrote:
It's actually 1.05x not the speculated 1.1x.

One of the lenses to be released is a 85mm f1.1 AFS VR macro that comes with an available adapter for perspective control which also gives it another 17mm focal length when mounted. So it effectively would be a 102mm macro with tilt shift. Interestingly the PC adapter is made almost entirely of metals! with the main body section cast in a mag alloy.

where did you get this info? i sure can use this F1.1 lens for my cave weddings

Azul wrote:
Qranc wrote:
It's actually 1.05x not the speculated 1.1x.

One of the lenses to be released is a 85mm f1.1 AFS VR macro that comes with an available adapter for perspective control which also gives it another 17mm focal length when mounted. So it effectively would be a 102mm macro with tilt shift. Interestingly the PC adapter is made almost entirely of metals! with the main body section cast in a mag alloy.

where did you get this info? i sure can use this F1.1 lens for my cave weddings

Funny you should mention that. I believe there's a cave light setting on the new camera. Apparently firmware updates are in works for all the older bodies too to make them compatible.

The reason I went to the 5D is/was the ability to use Leica and other lenses on the FF sensor.... For studio work it is my personal best option. The results obtainable with a little care are just remarkable. Being a Nikon guy, though, the whole setup of a 5D is non-intuitive.....Like a piccolo to a violin player.

I adore my D200 outside the studio, and would love to migrate to a NIKON 1.1 near FF format. But. . ..not if I have to leave all my lenses behind. Jmvvho

I'm sure you have the required scrap of paper proving this
hopeful bit of news?? LOL! The roll out price is about that of an off lease Mercedes...LOL



Qranc wrote:
It's actually 1.05x not the speculated 1.1x.

One of the lenses to be released is a 85mm f1.1 AFS VR macro that comes with an available adapter for perspective control which also gives it another 17mm focal length when mounted. So it effectively would be a 102mm macro with tilt shift. Interestingly the PC adapter is made almost entirely of metals! with the main body section cast in a mag alloy.

Jannemaki wrote:
I would definetely love that if nikon could put good ISO performance in ISO 1600.

1600 What about 6400, like on the 1D3 ?

http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/513407

cogitech wrote:
Jannemaki wrote:
I would definetely love that if nikon could put good ISO performance in ISO 1600.

1600 What about 6400, like on the 1D3 ?

http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/513407

who needs 6400 when we have a cave-light mode and F1.1 lenses with VR?

Azul wrote:
cogitech wrote:
Jannemaki wrote:
I would definetely love that if nikon could put good ISO performance in ISO 1600.

1600 What about 6400, like on the 1D3 ?

http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/513407

who needs 6400 when we have a cave-light mode and F1.1 lenses with VR?

...people who need more than 1mm of DOF and need to freeze a moving subject.

It is a good thing Nikon's flash system doesn't suck.

ISO 1600.

Qranc wrote:
It's actually 1.05x not the speculated 1.1x.

One of the lenses to be released is a 85mm f1.1 AFS VR macro that comes with an available adapter for perspective control which also gives it another 17mm focal length when mounted. So it effectively would be a 102mm macro with tilt shift. Interestingly the PC adapter is made almost entirely of metals! with the main body section cast in a mag alloy.

I can't tell if you're pulling our collective leg or not

At any rate, if this 85mm lens update is true, it will be "in demand" judging from the # of 85mm aficionados on DPReview.

Me? Heck, I can't even afford a new anything

cogitech wrote:

It is a good thing Nikon's flash system doesn't suck.

ISO 1600.

You have to take all this chatter with a grain of salt Paul. The closest mortal beings have come to viewing this camera is a version with fuzzy dice for the rear view LCD. But I'm sure it will have squeeky clean ISO 128000

jmcfadden wrote:
yeah and for the snotty Canon guys the sensor in the 5D is a bit smaller than FF as well

35.8 x 23.9 mm CMOS sensor , oh the devil in the details

J

.........and I thought I was the only one who noticed that.

JCDoss wrote:
zoetmb wrote:
Where is this D3 news on the Nikonians site? I can't find it.

Finding anything on the Nikonians site is a problem, isn't it??

No.

r_o_b_s_o_n wrote:
oh, and by the way,
i sure as hell hope one of those 8 new lenses is a 28mm f1.4 AF-S

If the new camera is DX, I hope it's a 20mm f/1.4 AF-S. Actually, I would prefer to have the 20mm f/1.4 AF-S and a D40 rather than a D3XH-whatever and no new, fast WA lens.

Would you buy that AFS 20mm f/1.4? You know it's gonna be expensive...