Excellent job, Ariel! Nice work, getting it up on the first page, very helpful.

Sonny wrote:
What about the price!!!!!! 4K...Well priced, right ?
IMO, too expensive.
Sure there are improvements, but the general dslr market trend is price down.
Well, the problem is there is no real competition to force Canon to follow the trend...

Don't understand a word, but the camera looks sweet.

Damn, he wore a real nice tie, didn't he?



Patrick Wong wrote:
O yea, here is a link to a French website that had a hands-on preview of the 1dmk3...he shows off the 10 fps and the Live Preview mode:
http://www.focus-numerique.com/news_id-38.html

Here's the real sound on the 10fps from the 1DMk3

http://web.canon.jp/Imaging/eos1dm3/

Select Flash and select Play Sound On, skip the Intro and then select "Shooting" from the top menu selection and then Continous shooting from the drop down menu.

Don't theink the general DSLR market trend applies, but either way your point is invalaid. The original 1D2 came out pretty firm at $4500, stayed there for quite some time. That was 3 years ago, factor in inflatation (the dollar has gone to crap) and they still gave a $500 price drop.

What's better, for free?


Etadam wrote:
Sonny wrote:
What about the price!!!!!! 4K...Well priced, right ?
IMO, too expensive.
Sure there are improvements, but the general dslr market trend is price down.
Well, the problem is there is no real competition to force Canon to follow the trend...

Hey how long from realease can we expect to wait before we can purchase one. What was the time line from when the 1D Mk II N was announced and actually hit the stores.

Any chance that these dedicated rumour threads contribute to the general slowdown at FM that so many people are complaining about ?

After my initial excitement over this camera reality sets in. The 1D3 looks very cool and will for sure be great in the hands of many PJ and sport shooters and the pro level but it will most likely not be found in my hands. Honestly the sample photos did not blow me away but perhaps they were not from RAW….. Don't get me wrong, I am sure this machine gun can take great photos with the right person behind it. After the rumor hype I will settle down again with my 20D and wait again (not such a bad thing). I had hoped for something 1.3x factor but at a lower price/size point and was beginning to think that perhaps the 1D3 would have gone FF. Now that the 1D3 is here I can’t say that I’m too surprised that it is still at 1.3x camera.

It will be either the 40D or a 5D Mark II which will get me to dig into my wallet next time. I could really use some of the new features and we’ll likely see them in future cameras; better auto focus, a dust buster, a bigger LCD although 2.5” would be big enough for me. I am however getting used to the fact that I will likely settle for a 1.6x camera but it’s not here yet so we’ll see. The 1.3 camera at a middle price point just won’t happen. If it does it will be in the shape of a used 1D Mark II.

the shutter sound on 10fps is really insanee.. Argghh.. I want one.. The thought has been haunting me since yesterday released

Even though I dont use the high fps but I want those improved AF and ISO performance over D2n

This camera sounds unbelievable. Not so much for the speed or MP (speed doesn't matter to me at all and MP is still way too low to excite me in my field), but all the features are UNBELIEVABLE. This is a quantum leap in features if you ask me. I want a 5D with these features!

Any word on whether or not this will have continuous shooting speed selection? It would be awesome (and almost necessary if you ask me) for it to have say, 3fps/5fps/8fps/10fps modes. 10fps is way overkill for a lot of situations and it would suck to have to waste time/shutter clicks worrying about those shots.

Wow, the sound of a shutter 10fps sounds very much like a paintball gun!

for what i do, this one really addresses many of the weaker points of my IIN models. If the ISO noise at 1600 is significantly better, that justify's the price since it is like getting a new lens set. the speed is also important--as fast as 8fps is, there have been so many times when i wished i had a tad quicker frame sequence to have a better chance to capture a particular moment. 10meg is nice but prob not a big diff for most mag work--but it won't hurt. better view finder is real nice. Live Preview is real nice. the rest of the improvements all make sense and I will most likely use them all. SO, great job canon--i went and put my name down at my local dealer at lunch time. probably will end up with two before the summer. funny about those not 'wow'd' by the pic samples--i have found that if you light well, the existing 8 meg camera produces 11 X 14 prints that can't be distinquished from the 16 meg canon. but to each their own. this thing perfectly addresses what sports shooters need--assuming the focusing is better also.

wtlloyd wrote:
The original 1D2 came out pretty firm at $4500, stayed there for quite some time. That was 3 years ago, factor in inflatation (the dollar has gone to crap) and they still gave a $500 price drop.

Inflation 2005: 3.24%, 2006: 3.29%, total 6.7%. Not that much, moreover the JPY was stronger back at this time.

What's better, for free?
Well there are a few steps in between, e.g. 3000$.

I think Canon hit a home run. It is not the camera for me, not for a year or two or three ... But I'm very happy because of the thinking that clearly went into it. Features that will appear in the other levels before long.

I am torn about this. On the one hand, I love my 5D. On the other hand, it would be nice to have a weather-sealed camera with that kind of AF system to take with me to Alaska in July... Agghhhh....

Brian Brutek wrote:
This camera sounds unbelievable. Not so much for the speed or MP (speed doesn't matter to me at all and MP is still way too low to excite me in my field), but all the features are UNBELIEVABLE. This is a quantum leap in features if you ask me. I want a 5D with these features!

Any word on whether or not this will have continuous shooting speed selection? It would be awesome (and almost necessary if you ask me) for it to have say, 3fps/5fps/8fps/10fps modes. 10fps is way overkill for a lot of situations and it would suck to have to waste time/shutter clicks worrying about those shots.


The 1D2 has PF's where you can set different speeds to the continuous frame speed. I am sure the 1D3 will also.

Don't care if I want/need one of these babies...I'm getting one! hooo haaa

It seems like it's a really sweet camera. I'll probably never own one, but who knows. The drive mode is pretty crazy.

Even 3fps on my 1N is fast enough for me - the motor drive is a lot louder, so the shutter sounds different than the 1V or the D's.

Specs look amazing. The samples less so.

Sample 5 (Landscape 1) seems soft on the left hand edge even at f8, perhaps the 17-40 wasn't the best choice there ;)

Sample 4 (Eagle) looks just soft outright, certainly not my definition of razor sharp - as it's an ISO800 shot I wonder how much of that is due to chroma NR.

Oh well, we'll wait and see what the actual results look like - but the Canon samples aren't setting my world ablaze...

What do you all think about them?

thanks for the links Ariel and everyone else! 10 fps is insane. I believe the mp3 of the various fps speeds is from a 1V, looking at the filename. Hmm the sound of 10fps firing as my new ringtone? ...

Adrian Warren wrote:
What do you all think about them?

I would have thought people would have learned from past experience when making decisions based on sample images. The 5D also had equally "impressive" sample images, and there were plenty of people stating how poor the image quality was, but that doesn't seem to have been the case from 5D owners now they actually have the camera. I wish Canon wouldn't even post those sample images, since every time we get people micro-analyzing a few pictures we know little about in terms of how they were taken, the photographer, the associated equipment, the camera settings, the processing, etc. Maybe this time we can just wait for some real results before we bin this one too as many did the 5D.

Honestly, I haven't looked at the samples, and I don't care. They usually are not indicative of anything useful in the long run.

Has anyone looked through the Custom Functions? I might have to buy this beast just for C.Fn.III - # 15 - Mirror Lock Up. 0 = Disable, 1 = Enable, 2 = Enable : Down with SET

Did Canon just answer our Mirror Lock up wants by enabling mirror lock up by pressing the SET key?

The test images seem reasonable - I did a couple of prints at 100% pixels with reasonable post processing (sharpening, constrast, etc). Seems to me that the camera delivers very fine results. The look quite a bit like the 1D-IIn and 5D in image "quality" and seem between the cameras in resolution -- as expected.

But that is the easy conclusion - others will need a full test / review.

Hammy wrote:
Warning 1 - DO NOT go to 'shutter durability' if you are not planning on buying this camera.

I was very disappointed at this one myself... 300,000 frames... I'll burn through that at least twice before the 1 year warranty is up!

Hammy.




Hmmm, 300,000 (Shutter actuations) / 365 (days) = 822 per day...

wow...