Dissected my dead 20D...with photos!
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gmr2048
Registered: Mar 05, 2005
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The toe-tag lists my repair number, name, date and camera type and serial number. Some info has been blurred to protect the innocent.

-gary



yogi3939
Registered: Oct 19, 2005
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gmr2048 wrote:
The toe-tag lists my repair number, name, date and camera type and serial number. Some info has been blurred to protect the innocentGUILTY.

-gary


Damn that hurts. Looking at that gives me the creepy crawlies. Boy that salt water sure does a number on things doesn't it.

I must be just as big a geek as you though. I have taken dead high tech toys apart to see what makes them tick too.



YoJoe
Registered: Dec 23, 2005
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A Pathologist seeks to find what killed a person.
A Photologist seeks to find how the camera died...I was able to see all your pics without passing out(all the gore without the blood!)
Requiem to your camera



4x4rock
Registered: May 04, 2005
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If only you can put all the pics into an animated GIF. That would be the best animated GIF eva!.



RGS65
Registered: Oct 20, 2005
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Cool. Neat to see the shutter.



racoll
Registered: Dec 02, 2004
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Fascinating display, Gary. Thanks for the 'tour'. It's kind of funny to see the Sony name in the midst of all that Canon hardware, and yes, after looking at all of this I understand why these things cost so much. Sort of.

Andy



gmr2048
Registered: Mar 05, 2005
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I've added more photos to the gallery. These are of the Digic chip as well as the front and rear of the circuit board on which it's installed. I've placed them in the series where they belong chronologically.
http://www.pbase.com/gmr2048/20d-dissection

Still gotta see what I can get for the other requested shots. Hopefully this weekend.

--
-gary
http://www.eighteenpercent.net



Tom_W
Registered: Jan 21, 2004
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Ahhh, some digic shots! Thanks, Gary.



Jae Park
Registered: Oct 23, 2006
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Applause for a truely bold contribution.

Thanks for sharing the story with us.



Paradisiac
Registered: Jul 08, 2006
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Thank you for sharing this with us.

I found it very interesting.

I love to see the inside and workings of electronics. But, I'm not gonna take apart my camera just to quench my curiosity!



Michael-M
Registered: Apr 21, 2002
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kinda wierd that the chip in DPR's review says "Digic II", but the one in you pics doesn't eh?...........makes me wonder if we all got what we paid for.

your picture postings are awesome...............let's see you put it all back together..........

thx



Michael-M
Registered: Apr 21, 2002
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one question, is the sensor sealed to the frame behind the shutter?



timnosenzo
Registered: Jun 21, 2005
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That was cool, thanks!!



nads
Registered: Oct 22, 2004
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Unless I'm missing a bit, it looks like there aren't too many critical parts located in the right grip of the body. They should change the form factor of the next rebel to resemble the AE-1. I'd buy one just because it looks cool.



JohnJ80
Registered: May 11, 2005
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very cool. thanks for this!

Look at that corrosion. Wow. Given the condensation threads that are going on now, this is a great resource. True, this is sort of worst case - a salt water dunking, but very instructive to those discussions as well.

J.



Xavier Rival
Registered: Jul 21, 2004
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Ouch!!! Just looking at these pictures hurts. Sorry for the loss. But, as others said, this set of pictures are a nice contribution.



Tom_W
Registered: Jan 21, 2004
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nads wrote:
Unless I'm missing a bit, it looks like there aren't too many critical parts located in the right grip of the body. They should change the form factor of the next rebel to resemble the AE-1. I'd buy one just because it looks cool.


One major critical part inside the right grip - the battery!

Actually, it's quite amazing how much circuitry is stuffed into these bodies.



pauljas
Registered: Jan 24, 2005
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you could use this experience to learn how to do your own custom conversions such as removing the AA filter or IR conversion. IR conversion runs$350. Thanks for posting



nathanlake
Registered: May 23, 2005
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Just a hint....If you get salt water inside your camera, and you want any hope of it being fixed, immediately remove the batteries, flush it with fresh water and then as soon as possible flush it with alcohol. Remove the back and allow it to dry.

Salt water will begin to corrode contacts within minutes. Fresh water will take a bit longer and alcohol does minimal corrosion (although it may affect other things).



dgsphoto
Registered: Sep 27, 2005
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nathanlake wrote:
Just a hint....If you get salt water inside your camera, and you want any hope of it being fixed, immediately remove the batteries, flush it with fresh water and then as soon as possible flush it with alcohol. Remove the back and allow it to dry.

Salt water will begin to corrode contacts within minutes. Fresh water will take a bit longer and alcohol does minimal corrosion (although it may affect other things).


Definitely worth a try if one is on the brink of loosing the equipment. Fresh water might work wonders. But don't forget to to detach the parts to be "washed" from the main body before trying it. And after the fresh water, use lots and lots of canned air.



gmr2048
Registered: Mar 05, 2005
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Michael-M wrote:
kinda wierd that the chip in DPR's review says "Digic II", but the one in you pics doesn't eh?...........makes me wonder if we all got what we paid for.


Being semi-paranoid, that's exactly what I thought when I saw "Digic" and not "Digic II". I'm guessing the one on the dpreview site is a marketing shot/illustration, seeing as how that chip doesn't have any of the other identifying information that mine does.

-gary



gmr2048
Registered: Mar 05, 2005
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Michael-M wrote:
one question, is the sensor sealed to the frame behind the shutter?


Yeah, the sensor seems to be bonded to it's frame, seen in this image,

http://www.pbase.com/gmr2048/image/69559262

with some black epoxy-looking stuff. I removed the two screws you can see in that image, as well as one in the rear, that appear to attach the sensor to the sensor frame, but the two stayed locked together.

-gary



nads
Registered: Oct 22, 2004
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Nah, you don't need a battery!

The XT grip is so small that they could change the form factor of the battery and pull off that body style if they wanted to. Kind of like Leica did with that new/old one of theirs.



10DFT wrote:
nads wrote:
Unless I'm missing a bit, it looks like there aren't too many critical parts located in the right grip of the body. They should change the form factor of the next rebel to resemble the AE-1. I'd buy one just because it looks cool.


One major critical part inside the right grip - the battery!

Actually, it's quite amazing how much circuitry is stuffed into these bodies.



Michael-M
Registered: Apr 21, 2002
Total Posts: 2698
Country: United States

thx for the answers Gary.................in my younger years i use to take apart almost anything i bought to see what made it tick................you just saved me a lot of time........



JohnJ80
Registered: May 11, 2005
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Michael-M wrote:
thx for the answers Gary.................in my younger years i use to take apart almost anything i bought to see what made it tick................you just saved me a lot of time........


.... and money.

J.



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