Guys, the Next 1Ds is ready and has been ready for a couple of months.

Canon just didnt think it was necesary to release it now due to lack of competition in the high end and decided it was best to stretch the 1Ds mk2's lifecycle just a wee bit longer. Cant really blame them. It wouldve been cool to have at least an upgraded n model with a larger lcd.

I dont know if they are going to call the New 1Ds the mk3 but it has been tested and looks just like a 1Dmk2n. Out in the field its really imposible to tell the difference.

Regarding the 3D I have no clue. I know Canon has been working on another model based on the 5D but I have no clue on specs etc.

I have no idea on pricing on the new 1Ds but I dont expect any changes since again, Canon has no competition at all from any DSLR mfg.in the high end. At least at the moment. nikon will take a good long while to release a replacement for the D2x and doubt it will be a full frame model. If and when the D3x is released it will probably be close to 16mp if that.

Most of the changes will come in the low end of the market where competition is fierce (now with pentax, sony, samsung in the mix) and product cycles are much shorter because of that. Hence, Canon released the 400D now.

After reading around a little(ok,a lot) on Nikon Cafe and such, ive decided, Canon REALLY needs a D200 type camera. We need basically a 5D with a 1.3x crop. And it will be the 3D, and i want one NOW!

FYI, Canon's management, in several public interviews has stated for the record, there's not going be a 3D, they're going have a two sensor size pyramid (1.6 and FF) and they'll combine the 1D and 1Ds body styles into one body. I believe them as upper management, when making public statements, is pretty good keeping true to their public comments.

I think we'll be seeing this combining come PMA, end of February next year.

They do need a camera in the 1700 rang, though. The 30D is too little for many but the 5D is too much or they do not want FF

I see no need for 1.3x crop sensors, honestly. I'd much rather have that 1dIII/1dsIII combo cam.

If Canon won't make a successor to 1D2N matching Nikon D2 pricing, then they will deliberately leave a unique niche for Nikon D2 cameras. It would then make "perfect" sense to leave another niche for Nikon D200.

OTOH, I guess it is "only" a minority of camera buyers who purchase D200 or D2 as their first (D)SLR, but the majority of them first commit themselves to a brand by buying a low end camera and a few matching lenses. Thus Canon might not see it compulsory to directly compete with Nikon high end DSLRs.

karpfish24 wrote:
They do need a camera in the 1700 rang, though. The 30D is too little for many but the 5D is too much or they do not want FF

A logical conclusion then would be a sealed 1.6x crop camera, if we buy the "no APS-H" message of Canon's management.

Their technical people are giving another message in the FF white paper, where they point out the major cost benefit of APS-H sensor vs. FF sensor.

Of course, an APS-C sensor is even cheaper, and you don't need more than that to compete specs-wise with D200.