Re: MF digital backs. The dilemma
/forum/topic/368633/19

1 2 3 19
20
21 end

gogopix
Registered: Sep 18, 2002
Total Posts: 1431
Country: Slovakia

Dear Andy
I have tried several hasselblad lenses (V Zeiss) using the P25 and my Contax and I am well pleased. The 30mm if you can find can produce really special results
The 100 and the 180 are some of the sharpest lenses.
The Zeiss contax are great but you cannot use on the V. But you can use Hassey on Contax (actually auto meters correctly for a stop down. It just doest record correctly. And the auto focus becomes a confirmation. No special items needed since on Contax the autoexposure and autofocus (as confirmation of course) seem to just work regardless the lens . even the Hartbleis work.
Since Contax bodies are cheap and lenses are in same or better class, you coud go that route too.
I wish that Phase had made the P25 with flexible replaceable mounts rather than dedicated, but either H V series or contax seem to be greatwith the P25. I suspect as you say, it is the Zeiss lenses that work so well.

regards
Victor



EZepeda
Registered: Dec 10, 2004
Total Posts: 191
Country: United States

I've had some interesting conversations with the Fotocare and Calumet guys, where basically it comes down to "good glass is good glass" regardless of the capture medium. While I would love an H series or Contax, the T-Blad is holding its own quite well for what I do. Now for that Cambo wide...



gogopix
Registered: Sep 18, 2002
Total Posts: 1431
Country: Slovakia

push



Andi Dietrich
Registered: Nov 13, 2005
Total Posts: 3801
Country: Bahamas

Did someone buy the Reichman DVD with his mfdb tests?



gogopix
Registered: Sep 18, 2002
Total Posts: 1431
Country: Slovakia

i did
still waiting for it!
Let you know when I have
regards
Victor



woodyspedden
Registered: Nov 24, 2005
Total Posts: 897
Country: United States

gogopix wrote:
i did
still waiting for it!
Let you know when I have
regards
Victor


I am waiting also. They claim they have shipped it but I have not seen it yet. Will give as good a report as I can as soon as I see it.

Woody



ajmichael
Registered: Jul 18, 2004
Total Posts: 542
Country: United Kingdom

Greg_E wrote:
[What?

Are you saying that using the P45 for a pinhole camera wouldn't produce good results?


Was that a Zeiss pinhole?

Andy



gogopix
Registered: Sep 18, 2002
Total Posts: 1431
Country: Slovakia

OK the LL megapixel CD came. Unfortunately the exposures and settings were all over the map (flask color space for a daylight setting??

Anyway here is an H1 25 vs 45 comparison.
Both 50 ISO, f8 1/4s

I adjusted saturation and ncontrast and tried best on wWB.

On size, the 45 is actually about at 73-74%. That's it guys, NOT a big difference linear. However, MR says look at the files.

With all that caveat, here is a side by side for the 25 and 45
you can see a difference, but how much?



gogopix
Registered: Sep 18, 2002
Total Posts: 1431
Country: Slovakia

of course advantage of 45MP is SIZE
here are the 100% crop comparison



ajmichael
Registered: Jul 18, 2004
Total Posts: 542
Country: United Kingdom

gogopix wrote:
With all that caveat, here is a side by side for the 25 and 45
you can see a difference, but how much?


Twice the price but not twice as good, methinks?

Have you had the chance to do any P25 vs P30 comparisons?

Andy



gogopix
Registered: Sep 18, 2002
Total Posts: 1431
Country: Slovakia

Someone asked about the 25and 30
here is the matched size' (that is, resolution for a fixed fov)



gogopix
Registered: Sep 18, 2002
Total Posts: 1431
Country: Slovakia

And here is what you get in terms of magnification for 100% crop (which of course isnt necessarilysame resolution due to some differences

Now 25 isISO 50 while MR did only ISO 100 for P30
all are h1 120 lens 1/4 and 1/8 sec resp and f8

[Note I do NOt believe the last test, uprezing the 25 is reasonable, but I will show it soon. Peaople who up rez are not looking for ultimate detail but satisfying demands of client. So means compromise de facto]



gogopix
Registered: Sep 18, 2002
Total Posts: 1431
Country: Slovakia

for those interested in uprez. i actually did a bit over, but still pretty close

to my eye evenuprez seems 'sharper' than 30 but some due to artificial broadening, hence some darkening so maybe 25 looks better.

someone had explanation why 25 could have better resolution than 30, but I forget.

For those of use that pay $30k for P25 now P30 seems agood deal. But still I stay with P25 at least for now



ajmichael
Registered: Jul 18, 2004
Total Posts: 542
Country: United Kingdom

Anyone still watching this thread?

Andy



zaknat
Registered: Dec 07, 2003
Total Posts: 3945
Country: United States

ajmichael wrote:
Anyone still watching this thread?

Andy

Yup. I'll be posting a few shots next week with the Aptus 75/Contax kit but have nothing to compare it to other than the DMR.

David



Lotusm50
Registered: Sep 26, 2005
Total Posts: 5902
Country: United States

Apparently you are. ;-)

I also am. (presumably others are as well).


ajmichael wrote:
Anyone still watching this thread?

Andy



EZepeda
Registered: Dec 10, 2004
Total Posts: 191
Country: United States

Still watching...am having a bit of fun freelancing for one client that has a whole Sinar based system, 54e backs and P3 cameras. Don't really like the software though, C1 is still the best in my book.



netexpress
Registered: Oct 20, 2004
Total Posts: 1308
Country: United States

Ping



Andi Dietrich
Registered: Nov 13, 2005
Total Posts: 3801
Country: Bahamas

this is over for me, I will do film and FB prints. I get the better feeling and feel free not to see instantly what is going on.



gogopix
Registered: Sep 18, 2002
Total Posts: 1431
Country: Slovakia

Dear David
Looking forward to your Contax/Aptus results For me it is go P45 stay P25 or look at Aptus 65/75. There is a different 'llok' to Leaf (I guess itis the different chips)

Do you ever get to the DC area? We could compare directly. If you were here Iwould try to rent the P45 for weekend (or work a 'loaner' from the P45 sellers.They oud me weekly to upgrade!

regards
Victor



Doug Dolde
Registered: Aug 19, 2002
Total Posts: 288
Country: United States

foto-z wrote:
DutchGuy wrote:
Maybe Michel Reichman changed his mind, that can happen.


What did he change his mind about?



His reviews are generally gushing...at least until the next generation comes along. His photographic skills seem to be going down in direct proportion to the big bucks he spends on new gear. I actually liked a lot of his film work but rarely see an image on his site now that moves me.

Obviously he is making a killing with big bucks workshops (more like tour hosting) and DVD's.



RobertP
Registered: Mar 12, 2005
Total Posts: 1404
Country: United States

Doug Dolde wrote:
His photographic skills seem to be going down in direct proportion to the big bucks he spends on new gear. I actually liked a lot of his film work but rarely see an image on his site now that moves me.

Obviously he is making a killing with big bucks workshops (more like tour hosting) and DVD's.


I agree. His site is a bit boring now as well. It seemed to be more fun to read a few years ago.

Anyway, on the subject of digital backs, is there anyone using the Mamiya RZ67 with a back? Anyone?.....anyone?



mark1958
Registered: Jan 27, 2002
Total Posts: 8021
Country: United States


Victor. I come to DC often.. about 5 to 6 times per year. I will let you know next trip.

gogopix wrote:
Dear David
Looking forward to your Contax/Aptus results For me it is go P45 stay P25 or look at Aptus 65/75. There is a different 'llok' to Leaf (I guess itis the different chips)

Do you ever get to the DC area? We could compare directly. If you were here Iwould try to rent the P45 for weekend (or work a 'loaner' from the P45 sellers.They oud me weekly to upgrade!

regards
Victor



sundstei
Registered: May 08, 2004
Total Posts: 231
Country: Norway

RobertP wrote:

Anyway, on the subject of digital backs, is there anyone using the Mamiya RZ67 with a back? Anyone?.....anyone?


I do, what do you want to know?



gogopix
Registered: Sep 18, 2002
Total Posts: 1431
Country: Slovakia

Dear Mark
yes please let me know. I am in McLean, not too far out. Do you go to Hopkins or UMd? I do work with both (or at least some of the Med and Pharmacy school staff.)

It would be great to side by side compare the goods. I have a variety of lenses here so you could travel 'light' if that is appropriate to say for for MF

:-)

Victor



1 2 3 19
20
21 end