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Emanuele_C Registered: Sep 06, 2005 Total Posts: 390 Country: Italy |
Hi all! This list is possible thanks to Cinstance, PSquared, MarkSaperstein, Foto-z and other FMers that are trying their CZ lenses w/ the 5D. Thanks also to: Guy Mancuso for his efforts w/ Leica glass and kidigital for 5D mirror mod (see the bottom of this post for more infos). I've built the list and collected all the infos to try to make a unique point of reference for FMers and all other people that use these great lenses. Hope u'll appreciate my try! Please, post your CZ/Oly->5D experiences here (tries&mods) to share your findings and keep the list updated. The purpose of this thread is to share experiences with other users and increase the knowledge of the participants: for any other question, please create a new thread or use PMs/Emails. Thankyou! CARL ZEISS LENSES The question "What Zeiss lens for my 5D?" has gained importance in the last days because some CZ lenses won't work on the new 5D. As someone suggested, I've started a new specific topic containing the list that I'll try to keep updated. Original thread HERE (Started by PSquared) OLYMPUS OM LENSES Oly's OMs seem to work without problems on the new Canon 5D. The list below contains the lenses FMers recently tested: check it out for updates. Thanks to Gary Merideth and Bob Parsons. Please, post your CZ/Oly->5D experiences here (tries&mods) to share your findings and keep the list updated. Thankyou! Carl Zeiss for Contax/Yashica - adapter: C = Cameraquest, D = DSLReXchange, E = Elephoto, F = Fotodiox, FH = Foto Huppert, H = Haoda, N = Novoflex, P = Pham Min Son, S = Shell (Bob Shell) MC = Mirror Clearance OK, IF = Infinity Focus OK - ATTENTION: MC and/or IF tags absence means they must be tested, NOT that they don't work! WILL WORK Wide/Ultra-wide angle lenses - Distagon 3.5/15 link ( C, D ) - (Leica version MOD) - F-Distagon 2.8/16 (fisheye) link - MC; IF - ( C, F ) - Distagon 4/18 AE version ( MM version does NOT work ) link - MC; IF - ( C ) - Distagon 2.8/21 link - MC; IF - ( C, F, S ) - Distagon 2.8/25 AE - MC; IF - ( F ) - Distagon 2.8/25 MM link - MC; IF - ( C ) - Distagon 2/28 AE link ( C, F, P) - Distagon 2.8/28 link - MC; IF - ( C -MM version-, F, S ) - Distagon 1.4/35 AE link - MC; IF - ( C, F ) - Distagon 2.8/35 MM link - MC; IF - ( C, F ) - PC-Distagon 2.8/35 link - MC; IF - ( C, F ) Normal/Standard lenses - Planar 1.4/50 link - MC - ( C, F ) - Planar 1.7/50 link ( C, F, S ) - ( GREEN F16 mark version works, WHITE F16 mark version may have problems.) Telephoto lenses - Sonnar 1.2/85 60th Anniversary Edition (Tested with cheap adapter sanded down to 1.48 - will NOT work with C adapter) - Planar 1.4/85 AE - MC; IF - ( F ) - Sonnar 2.8/85 link - MC; IF - ( C ) - Planar 2/100 link - MC; IF - ( C, F, S ) - Sonnar 3.5/100 link - MC; IF - ( F, S ) - Sonnar 2.8/135 link - MC; IF - ( F, S ) - Sonnar 2.8/180 AE - MC; IF - ( F - NOTE: the finn doesn't have to be shaved with C adapter) - Tele-Tessar 4/300 - MC; IF - ( E ) Zoom lenses - Vario-Sonnar 3.4/35-70 link - MC; IF - ( C, F, FH, S ) - Vario-Sonnar 3.3-4.0/28-85 link - MC; IF - ( C, F, S ) - Vario-Sonnar 3.3/4.5/35-135 MM - MC; IF - (Chinese EBay Adapters -FS-) - Vario-Sonnar 3.5/40-80 - MC; IF - (Chinese EBay Adapters -FS-) - Vario-Sonnar 3.5/70-210 - MC; IF - (Chinese EBay Adapters -FS-) Macro lenses - Makro-Planar 2.8/60C (1:2 version) link - MC; IF - ( C, F, S ) - Makro-Planar 2.8/60 (1:1 version) link - (Chinese EBay Adapters -FS-) - Makro-Planar 2.8/100 link - MC - ( C, F and thick adapters only) Converters - Mutar II T* 2x lens converter link WILL NOT WORK - Sonnar 2/135 60th Anniversary Edition (Tested with C adapter) NOT TESTED YET - most popular CZ lenses (wide, normal, tele) WIDE ANGLE - Distagon 2/28 MM Olympus OM Zuiko - adapter: C = Cameraquest, MR = Mr Rolfo, PT = Pro-Technica MC = Mirror Clearance OK, IF = Infinity Focus OK - ATTENTION: MC and/or IF tags absence means they must be tested, NOT that they don't work! WILL WORK Wide/Ultra-wide angle lenses and Fish Eye - Zuiko 3.5/16 Fish Eye - MC - ( C ) - Zuiko 3.5/18 - MC - ( C ) - Zuiko 2/21 ( C ) - Zuiko 3.5/21 - MC - ( C, MR and Chinese EBay Adapters) - Zuiko 2.8/24 - MC - ( C, PT ) - Zuiko PC 3.5/24 Shift - MC - ( C, PT) - Zuiko 2/28 - MC - ( C ) - Zuiko 3.5/28 ( C ) - Zuiko 2.8/35 ( C ) - Zuiko PC 2.8/35 Shift ( C ) Normal/Standard lenses - Zuiko 1.2/50 ( C ) - Zuiko 1.2/55 ( C ) Telephoto lenses - Zuiko 2/90 ( C ) The lists above are NOT complete. I've considered only the most used CZ/Oly OM lenses on Canon systems. Feel free to expand/correct the lists, this is only a personal humble effort to try to help people like me involved in CZ and/or Olympus OM lenses. The lists cannot be considered an absolute point of reference but only an indicative guide, because, as noted by other FMers here (Cinstance and MarkSaperstein), adapter's machining precision could vary from piece to piece and a lens that works or not is a matter of very little tolerances (0.1-0.3 millimeters). 5D MIRROR MOD by FMer kidigital HERE & HERE (for those of you that don't mind about warranty and are strong enough) Tuning Adapters For C/Y Zeiss Lenses. Topic started by Don Clary. Contains very useful informations about adapters, correct thicknesses for every wideangle, tolerances and more. HERE Zeiss Service Informations - Many thanks to John Luke "jjlphoto". Go to this LINK. Go to "Service and Maintanance", then to "Function Test". They have a "Test Cover Letter" linked as a download for you to fill out. I have them do their 7 Point Function Test as described on the web site. The cost is 49EU. If you decide to only do the test itself, you pay the 49EU. If you proceed with their recommended repairs, such as cleaning, mechanism adjustments, etc, that 49EU gets applied to that repair. They also have a link to a cover letter for a specific repair, if that is all you want done. The service contact is: Mr. Helmut Bajerke, Service Manager Carl Zeiss AG Photo Service 73446 Oberkochen Germany Telefon/Phone: +49 7364 20 3954 Fax: +49 7364 20 4716 mobile: +49 171 3025 969 mailto:bajerke@zeiss.de Zeiss Germany Ciao, Emanuele Edited by Emanuele_C on Aug 12, 2006 at 07:55 AM GMT |
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Emanuele_C Registered: Sep 06, 2005 Total Posts: 390 Country: Italy |
Ok! |
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firestick Registered: Jun 24, 2004 Total Posts: 901 Country: United States |
cool list! I want one of each lens! |
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Emanuele_C Registered: Sep 06, 2005 Total Posts: 390 Country: Italy |
Links restored! Some missing links will be deleted later. |
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Cinstance Registered: Oct 09, 2003 Total Posts: 3749 Country: United States |
Emanuele, |
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charlesk Registered: Oct 21, 2003 Total Posts: 6216 Country: United States |
I just tried a CZ 4/18 AE on my new 5D with both a Fotodiox and DSLRx adapter, and in each case the mirror seems to get stuck. --c |
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PSquared63 Registered: Oct 25, 2004 Total Posts: 1721 Country: United States |
Charles, I hope the mirror didn't mar the rear glass like it did my MM version. Can you tell whether the mirror hit the glass or the retaining ring? |
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mfurman Registered: Jan 16, 2005 Total Posts: 2849 Country: Canada |
This is very disapointing that even AE version of CZ 18 f 4 does not work. I have been postponing my getting of 5D and could mean that I would rethink the whole idea of buying it. |
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charlesk Registered: Oct 21, 2003 Total Posts: 6216 Country: United States |
The glass is fine, thanks for asking. (I used a lens that already has some marks on the front element so if it got one on the back it wouldn't be the end of the world.) |
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mfurman Registered: Jan 16, 2005 Total Posts: 2849 Country: Canada |
Thank you Charles. It is a bit scary though to be a fraction of mm away from hitting the lens. It shows that if Canon decides to change something another millimeter, the game can start from scratch (pun not intended). |
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charlesk Registered: Oct 21, 2003 Total Posts: 6216 Country: United States |
Followup... |
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charlesk Registered: Oct 21, 2003 Total Posts: 6216 Country: United States |
I taped the rear element of my 2/28 when I tested it.. that seemed to work okay. --c |
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Beni Registered: May 31, 2005 Total Posts: 6965 Country: United Kingdom |
I can't seem to get the links to work for the CZ 28/2, what are the problems and does anyone know which adaptors are recommended. |
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charlesk Registered: Oct 21, 2003 Total Posts: 6216 Country: United States |
Beni, I can confirm that the Fotodiox adapter works with the AE 28/2.. at least my copy. Good infinity focus too. The Fotodiox adapters are pretty easy to get. --c |
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frasergjb Registered: Oct 12, 2005 Total Posts: 6 Country: United Kingdom |
A short update: |
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meneer bart Registered: Nov 17, 2005 Total Posts: 12 Country: Belgium |
just read all this now. didn't know it was possible. i have 28/2,8 35/2,8 50/1,7 & 85/2,8 carl zeiss contax lenses. thinking about a 5D with a cameraquest adapter and maybe later a second hand 20-35 2,8L from canon. seen that all lenses will work but there might be a problem with the 50/1,7. i have the AE white mark, not mm green version. |
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thedruid Registered: Dec 01, 2004 Total Posts: 1099 Country: United States |
I use the Cotnax 35mm f2.8MM on my 5D with a Fotodiox adapter with no problem. |
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europanorama Registered: Jan 09, 2005 Total Posts: 120 Country: Switzerland |
i would go to dsrlexchange and contact that man who has already a solution providing different adapters. main problem seems not only the mirror but image-defects and infinity-problems. |
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europanorama Registered: Jan 09, 2005 Total Posts: 120 Country: Switzerland |
in dslr-exchange they say photo huppert is offering the novoflex-adapter, which is working properly on any canon d. i could imagine since they are working very precisely. |
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Willem W Registered: Dec 29, 2002 Total Posts: 133 Country: Netherlands |
Olympus 21/3.5 and adapter of unknown origin (Chinese??): no problems on 5D. |
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europanorama Registered: Jan 09, 2005 Total Posts: 120 Country: Switzerland |
you need the german high precision adapter from foto huppert. all canon cams(listed there-also 5d). http://www.foto-huppert.de/default2.asp |
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dave_in_gva Registered: Nov 24, 2005 Total Posts: 27 Country: Switzerland |
Looking for info on compatability of the Zuiko 21 3.5 and 2.0 with the 5D. |
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woodyspedden Registered: Nov 24, 2005 Total Posts: 897 Country: United States |
Hey Charles |
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Stefan Rohloff Registered: Sep 22, 2005 Total Posts: 168 Country: Germany |
I can't read the "ATTENTION: please, read HERE" - Links :-( |