played with D200
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Zer000
Registered: Sep 26, 2004
Total Posts: 129
Country: United States

Wow, those ISO1600 shots make me want to cry since I can't afford a d200...



Mert
Registered: Apr 16, 2004
Total Posts: 2336
Country: Turkey

Peters images : Check the 2'nd page



sl1200mk4
Registered: Sep 04, 2005
Total Posts: 774
Country: Canada

OMG, amazing at ISO1600...

I wonder if this is because of the sensor or due to in camera image processing.



hir0
Registered: Nov 14, 2004
Total Posts: 367
Country: United States

so clean. wow! Peter, have you mounted a non af-s lens and used af? if so how's the speed? so curious.



jmilliron
Registered: Aug 26, 2004
Total Posts: 279
Country: United States

Nice!!!

I know where my tax return is going.



bernardlang
Registered: Oct 18, 2005
Total Posts: 2
Country: Japan

These images are for sure impressive, thanks for posting them. Nonetheless, I would be interested in checking:

- what happens when the light is really low,
- how subtle colored patterns are preserved by the noise removing algos,
- what happens with various artificial lights,

Let's say that these are encouraging at this stage.

Regards,
Bernard



lwestfall
Registered: Mar 05, 2005
Total Posts: 173
Country: United States

Yes it would be interesting to see whether this is just over-agressive noise reduction or the D200 can actually deliver amazingly clean high-ISO images without any significant losses color accuracy and resolution. I really hope it's the latter!



gizmo
Registered: Apr 04, 2004
Total Posts: 318
Country: Serbia & Montenegro

lwestfall wrote:
Yes it would be interesting to see whether this is just over-agressive noise reduction or the D200 can actually deliver amazingly clean high-ISO images without any significant losses color accuracy and resolution. I really hope it's the latter!

Read the last line

info:
d200
12-24 f4 dx @ 22 mm
jpeg fine, 3872 x 2592
programmed auto
1/60 @ F8
0 EV
iso 1600
wb auto
front curtain flash (sb800 angled abit up)
srgb mode 1, saturation and sharpening auto
noise reduction off



bernardlang
Registered: Oct 18, 2005
Total Posts: 2
Country: Japan

Yep, the "noise reduction off" part is encouraging, but then again, there is no way of knowing whether Nikon does, or does not, apply some base noise reduction to all the images, even when that setting is off...

Another encouraging detail is the fact that Nikon decided to split H1 in 3, with intermediate ISOs at 2000 and 2500. This does imply that the quality is high enough in that range that there is value in fine tuning the trade off.

Regards,
Bernard



mjmetts
Registered: Dec 03, 2003
Total Posts: 1392
Country: United States

Extremely encouraging news. Nikon really has a special camera here. It's going to draw a lot of interest.



rsg_1
Registered: Aug 24, 2005
Total Posts: 445
Country: United States

Wow. That looks nice, especially the big LCD screen. Can anyone comment on how much bigger the viewfinder is when compared to a Canon 20D? Some thoughts of switching are coming to mind.



Mert
Registered: Apr 16, 2004
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Country: Turkey

It is a lot bigger&brighter than a 20D viewfinder



Mert
Registered: Apr 16, 2004
Total Posts: 2336
Country: Turkey

Norm good simulation
But here is more than a good simulation :
I shall review the D200 as soon as I can get a sample production camera for testing. From first hands-on impressions, I can say that Nikon has yielded to their customers and provided a decent finder - slightly bigger, in fact, than the D2X! Lots of other goodies, many similar to features found on the D2X, are crammed into its svelte magnesium-alloy body.

According to Mr : Bjørn Rørslett .I really like his opinions&reviews.
http://www.naturfotograf.com/index2.html



Mert
Registered: Apr 16, 2004
Total Posts: 2336
Country: Turkey

It is maybe dimmer than the D2X but i bet it is brighter than the 20D.



wesley
Registered: Oct 19, 2003
Total Posts: 231
Country: Belgium

OMG , It's just so hard to believe all this, nikon did it this time, especially the big viewfinder is a plus, i can't wait to see true one of these...

And while we're waiting...entertainment to express my feelings



rafadavidc
Registered: Mar 03, 2005
Total Posts: 797
Country: United States

omg omg omg.... that was 1600 with no noise removal? holy shit.

............

i need one.

--RC



Remy
Registered: Mar 09, 2005
Total Posts: 177
Country: Netherlands

wesley - funny

I can't wait to see that magic ISO 1600 perf confirmed with more shots / final reviews. Those final reviews will probably not show up before early or mid december, because mid december the D200 will go on sale everywhere. Meanwhile I'm pretty sure I'm gonna get this D2X jr.



Hendrik
Registered: Jul 21, 2002
Total Posts: 3560
Country: Netherlands

It looks really, really good.

I can't make a mental picture when I read the specs, but is the D200 really so big as it looks on the pictures?

I love my big D1X, so I hope this is not a small camera.



Remy
Registered: Mar 09, 2005
Total Posts: 177
Country: Netherlands

Hendrik: it's about the size of a D70: only a bit differently shaped on top (for the D2-series style controls and the LCD) and bottom (for the battery grip). You can see on this page how big the D200 is in your hands. Size put aside, it's a bit heavier than a D70(s) or a D100, due to the mag alloy body



rwalls3
Registered: Jul 22, 2004
Total Posts: 1467
Country: United States

Man! These shots just make me want to see more. IF iso1600 is very comparable to the 20d, I'll probably switch. I know, I know, impulsive. But if I were a betting man, I would bet that canon won't match the bells and whistles (specifically the viewfinder, auto ISO, detailed battery info, iso in viewfinder, MLU, wireless firing of external flash using on board flash, time delay shooting built-in) on this thing until 2007 in a consumer body.



Mert
Registered: Apr 16, 2004
Total Posts: 2336
Country: Turkey

What the heck? Who deletes the reply?It looks like I'am talking to myself.I'am not caryz



Ryder
Registered: Mar 31, 2004
Total Posts: 857
Country: United States

rwalls3 wrote:
Man! These shots just make me want to see more. IF iso1600 is very comparable to the 20d, I'll probably switch. I know, I know, impulsive. But if I were a betting man, I would bet that canon won't match the bells and whistles (specifically the viewfinder, auto ISO, detailed battery info, iso in viewfinder, MLU, wireless firing of external flash using on board flash, time delay shooting built-in) on this thing until 2007 in a consumer body.



And the good thing is it has the "bells and whistles" (if you call those tings you listed B&W) and it's not a consumer body.

Cheers,
Craig Ryder



ferrerfoto
Registered: Sep 03, 2004
Total Posts: 311
Country: United States

jmilliron wrote:
Nice!!!

I know where my tax return is going.


I second that.......



DragonflyDM
Registered: Aug 04, 2004
Total Posts: 9796
Country: United States

Well.. I just sold my D100 behind my wife's back and putting in an order for the D200. If it is everything it says, then the D1X might go up on the chopping block as well.



DerrickT
Registered: Sep 28, 2003
Total Posts: 432
Country: United States

Are those two men gettin' jiggy wid it in the last picture?



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