WitchKing wrote:
Don't know if this had been mentioned or not...but is it normal to have a new dSLR pictured without an EF-S lens? Or does that mean it won't come with an EF-S lens?

The picture above looks like a 28-135 EF lens to me, or are you referring to a different image?

Flappie wrote:
WitchKing wrote:
Don't know if this had been mentioned or not...but is it normal to have a new dSLR pictured without an EF-S lens? Or does that mean it won't come with an EF-S lens?

It's a Full Frame camera, no EF-s lenses on this one because they won't fit or work on it

Flappie



Yep...not thinking straight. I'm good now.

Hammerli wrote:
WitchKing wrote:
Don't know if this had been mentioned or not...but is it normal to have a new dSLR pictured without an EF-S lens? Or does that mean it won't come with an EF-S lens?

The picture above looks like a 28-135 EF lens to me, or are you referring to a different image?


I'm just not thinking all this through. Soooo much info being passed, I forgot about the full frame deal

The lack of Firewire and 45-point AF kill this one for me. I'm hanging onto my 1Ds and two 10Ds. One problem with the megapixel race is that you get fewer and fewer pics per card and more and more MB to fill up your hard drives. I shoot weddings with the 10Ds, and 6MP is just right. My colleagues with 20Ds run out of cards faster and don't need the extra pixels. Sure, you could shoot smaller JPEGs on a higher-MP body, but I insist on shooting RAW. So, I don't need a replacement for my 10Ds, and I won't replace my 1Ds with anything that doesn't have FW and 45-point AF. The former is essential for shooting tethered in a studio, and the latter is a huge improvement over the 7- or 9-point AF of the 10D/20D. I won't replace the 10Ds until I can get a 1D2 in a 20D form factor. As for the 1Ds, the only thing I'd consider as a replacement would be the Mamiya ZD.

The 1DsmkII is 16.7MP, I hardly think a full frame 1DmkII N at 12.8MP would wipe out the 1DsmkII. The cameras are aimed at entirely different markets.

A couple of Canon reps are on record as saying that the "next generation" of 1D will be a single high-speed, full-frame camera. One said that the target price is $5000. That was at the last Photokina--I expect that super 1D to make its appearance in late 2006 at the next Photokina.

The 20D will probably get an upgrade this spring.

This 5D was conceived to co-exist with the 2006 20D and the 2006 "next generation" 1D. This would provide a lineup like this:

350XT APS-C at $1000
20D--probably faster, maybe more megapixels, still APS-C at $1500
5D--12mp, 24x36mm at $3000
New 1D--at least 8fps, 24x36mm and maybe as much as 20mp at $5000.

The 5D fills the spot of the Eos 5 in the film world, not the Eos3!!!
The Eos 3 was a series 1 clone, whereas the 5 was an advanced amature camera. This is the case with the 5D, which even has the same flash sync as the original 5. The 5 was a hugely successful camera and was a real advanced camera and 'QUIET! Let's hope that the reduced frame rate (3fps) means the shutter will be whisper quiet...

What this means is that there is space in the future for a Eos 3D, a more pro-featured camera with a full frame. This will be the 5D's replacement and will come out when Canon fuse the 1DII and 1DsII into a single camera.

However, people are not going to wait around for years for an "affordable" FF digital.. So for most of us this will be a camera to use now and for the next few years...