timmyquest wrote:
13mp and 3fps and 9 AF points

What niche is this supose to fill?



My niche,

People that only shoot one frame at a time, and mostly shoot portraits, or does studio work.

This is the camera I've been waiting for. A basic camera with a big sensor.

I'm very excited for it, just hoping the price is right, and now I'll hold out on buying a laptop. I might just buy this instead.

a larger sensor is required in order to maintain dynamic range and a good S/N ratio.


I think that has been proven more or less to be not necessarily true and will continue to be so. As has been stated elsewhere regarding this very issue - if all things were equal your statement would be true - however sensor technology is still very much on the improve, more can and will be done with less and often better

I remember reading somewhere that improvements in sensor hardware (microlenses etc) have pretty much reached their limit. They might be able to claw an extra 10 or 20% out of them but quantum limits are starting to be an issue.

Roger Singh wrote:
I'm very excited for it, just hoping the price is right, and now I'll hold out on buying a laptop. I might just buy this instead.


Sadly, you'll probably need a machine with more processing power to grind through the 13MP files it produces.

Rich_D wrote:

I don't really think the 1Ds MkII has anything to worry about or the 1D MkII for that matter. These are pro bodies the 10, 20, 5D are pro-sumer bodies, the difference is lightyears between them.


Rich_D wrote:
If I had heard about the possibility of this 5D sooner I probably would have waited to see if it was really true.
Richard

This proves my point why buy a 1Ds when this thing is more then enough, if studio pros want to make more profit then the 5D will be good enough thus lowering the 1Ds market.

I hope all the sa nay sayers and "it just doesn't fit my program" will remember to stay out of the pre-order line so I can buy mine.
gary

Fast Shadow wrote:
If this is for real then I'm interested in it. I would like a full frame digital with higher res to complement my 1D2, but the noise level of the 1Ds turns me off and the 1Ds2 is out of my price range. This 5D would be an ideal fit for me as I'd have my 1D2 for track and action photography and the 5D for glamour and style shots. Plus each camera would be a competent backup for the other.

What I'm more curious about is what this "1DMkII N" is....


I'm with you Fast Shadow. I have a 1D2 and a 20D, but what I don't like is the fact that the 20D has a completely different layout from the 1D2 making it less user friendly for me when I pick it up because I know my 1D2 very well. Back in my film days I had an EOS 3 and I thought that fit in very nicely with the "pro" line because it used the same layout. If the pictures are correct then it appears the rumored 5D has the same layout as the 20D/10D series which makes sense, but also makes it less desireable for me.

Oh well, in just four days we'll all know if this was true and hopefully find some wonderful surprises in Canon's August 22nd announcements, like maybe some new prime glass!

It's fun to speculate but let's remember that's all we're doing...

The 5d front image looks just like the 1V front image... (lens reflections and all)

Antony wrote:
Just wondering if the 1D Mark II N will be a full frame 12.8MP camera using the same chip but with better buffer etc enabling 8-9 fps.

There would be no way this will happen. The 1Ds2 would be wiped out.

Of course I'd love to see a 12.5MP 1.3x crop 1D2 N, but I don't think that will happen either.

purdy close, but definatelysom LARGE changes as well

Pixel Perfect wrote:
Antony wrote:
Just wondering if the 1D Mark II N will be a full frame 12.8MP camera using the same chip but with better buffer etc enabling 8-9 fps.

There would be no way this will happen. The 1Ds2 would be wiped out.


The 1DsmkII is 16.7MP, I hardly think a full frame 1DmkII N at 12.8MP would wipe out the 1DsmkII. The cameras are aimed at entirely different markets.

Tim Adams wrote:
Pixel Perfect wrote:
Antony wrote:
Just wondering if the 1D Mark II N will be a full frame 12.8MP camera using the same chip but with better buffer etc enabling 8-9 fps.

There would be no way this will happen. The 1Ds2 would be wiped out.


The 1DsmkII is 16.7MP, I hardly think a full frame 1DmkII N at 12.8MP would wipe out the 1DsmkII. The cameras are aimed at entirely different markets.

Yes currently, but a FF 1D2 N with 13MP would be as good as a 1Ds2, twice as fast and probably $2-3K cheaper. I'm guessing 75% of 1Ds2 buyers would jump ships in a heartbeat. Those extra 4MP will not buy you much at all.

I like to belive in fairytales and if it's true I'd get one, but all I can say is dream on.

Man, that 1V is one sexy cam!

Sorry... been shooting DSLR so long, I'd forgotten how nice the 1V is

It looks like an EOS 3 based model instead of a Elan based model. More Pro-sumer and less Digital Rebel+. Looks good to me.

Pixel Perfect wrote:
Antony wrote:
Just wondering if the 1D Mark II N will be a full frame 12.8MP camera using the same chip but with better buffer etc enabling 8-9 fps.

There would be no way this will happen. The 1Ds2 would be wiped out.

Of course I'd love to see a 12.5MP 1.3x crop 1D2 N, but I don't think that will happen either.

Why would the Ds II be "wiped out"? That camera is about resolution and the ability to make big prints or hand off large files, which it would still excell at.

A D IIN would give a little more res. to the speed camera. Any one who wanted big files/output would still go for the Ds II. I would agree that Canon would probably have to lower the price of the Ds II, but they may be about to do that anyway. There are only so many who can lay out $8K, and at some point it probably makes sense to drop the price and sell more cameras.

How about another image?

Conquest10 wrote:
How about another image?




On this picture, the camera looks nothing like a 20D. Much more a 1v to me. What is that button down left?

Fla

Wait a minute here.... which one is a 5D?

The 'new' photo appears to be an EOS 3 photo. Check this B&H photo of the EOS 3 and compare to the 'new' photo. Hmmm...identical photo, except 5D is photoshopped over the 3 and the 20D mode wheel cloned in.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=ProductDetail&A=showItemLargeImage&Q=&sku=164257

It's pretty safe to say that the original (bottom) photo is the real 5D.

If you look at the back view of the pentaprism just over the viewfinder, you'll see the little "cracks", one on either side, where the pop-up up flash fits between. I don't see a pop-up up flash on the front picture of the alleged real photos. Hmm

Scott

scottleslie wrote:
If you look at the back view of the pentaprism just over the viewfinder, you'll see the little "cracks", one on either side, where the pop-up up flash fits between. I don't see a pop-up up flash on the front picture of the alleged real photos. Hmm

Scott

No, those lines are the contours of the pentaprism housing as it reaches backwards to put the eyepiece level with the back of the camera. The 1D cameras have exactly the same contours visible from a rear angle, and the cameras with pop-up flashes do not.

Jman13 wrote:
The 'new' photo appears to be an EOS 3 photo. Check this B&H photo of the EOS 3 and compare to the 'new' photo. Hmmm...identical photo, except 5D is photoshopped over the 3 and the 20D mode wheel cloned in.

Yeah, its a slightly modified EOS 3. Maybe I'm oldschool but I prefer that body to the supposed real 5d's.

jfulton wrote:
Man, that 1V is one sexy cam!


Oh yes, it is!

jfulton wrote:
Sorry... been shooting DSLR so long, I'd forgotten how nice the 1V is

Hope I won't be saying that after I start shooting with the 5D

Don't know if this had been mentioned or not...but is it normal to have a new dSLR pictured without an EF-S lens? Or does that mean it won't come with an EF-S lens?

WitchKing wrote:
Don't know if this had been mentioned or not...but is it normal to have a new dSLR pictured without an EF-S lens? Or does that mean it won't come with an EF-S lens?

It's a Full Frame camera, no EF-s lenses on this one because they won't fit or work on it

Flappie