F-18 Jet
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Dennis
Registered: Feb 16, 2002
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Country: Canada

jtgray wrote:
Well first of all nice image but being in the navy I see this all the time. Only thing it looks more like an F-14 than a F/A-18. There are thousands of these shots taken every year by military photographers. As far as marketing it Im sure that someone would want this its a great capture


Well first off all thanks for the comment on the image.

No you throw a curve into the plane type at me...Grin! But I have an email from the pilot that flow that day and I will ask him to confirm the Jet for me so that I have all the facts for the image.

I'm sure that an image like this is taken by military photographers all over the world, but for us civilians it's not a common thing for us to see.

Thanks for sharing this information on this image.



Simba
Registered: Jul 10, 2003
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That web site photo is definitely an F18 by the look of the nose. I agree that this looks more like an F16



Joseph Marney
Registered: Jan 11, 2002
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I captured a B1 Bomber at the airshow last year in the same stage, although my capture isn't nearly as good as yours...
This years show starts in about 2 weeks--can't wait to go back out there!



This image is copyrighted by the owner




Dennis
Registered: Feb 16, 2002
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Country: Canada

Simba wrote:
That web site photo is definitely an F18 by the look of the nose. I agree that this looks more like an F16



Thanks for sharing your image, neat I like it.

Gee here is the confusion some one thinks it's an F-14 and you with an F-16.

I can clear this up, the pilot sent me an email requesting a copy of the image here to be sent to him and a copy of the print when I get that done. I will ask him for the details to this jet so that I have all the details at hand.

Now I'm confused!



jtgray
Registered: Dec 09, 2002
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F-16? Uhh where is the big intake under the fuselage?..........

Anyways the pilot will confirm that is an F/A-18... I was wrong about it being a F-14. It is a newer F/A-18 SUPERHORNET



Tim Adams
Registered: Jan 01, 2004
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This is the airplane in question. It is an F-18F. It looks much different than the old F-18 version flown by the Blue Angels. I saw both side by side this year. This was my glimpse at fame but I cut the nose off!!



jtgray
Registered: Dec 09, 2002
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adamsti wrote:
This is the airplane in question. It is an F-18F. It looks much different than the old F-18 version flown by the Blue Angels. I saw both side by side this year. This was my glimpse at fame but I cut the nose off!!


exactly . You can tell the differences between the 18's by the shape of the intakes the newer super hornets are square and the older version are rounded.



Dennis
Registered: Feb 16, 2002
Total Posts: 672
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adamsti wrote:
This is the airplane in question. It is an F-18F. It looks much different than the old F-18 version flown by the Blue Angels. I saw both side by side this year. This was my glimpse at fame but I cut the nose off!!


Wow thats to bad about the nose being cut out of the frame this would have been a nice image, and with that said it still is a nice image just the same.

Thanks for sharing this image with me....

Gee the Blue Angles have not flown at the CNE for some time now, I really miss seeing them fly here. Maybe soon, that would be nice.

Thanks again, best regards



JackBarlow
Registered: Sep 11, 2003
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Awesome shot Dennis.
The Blue Angels are due to fly here in Va Beach in two weeks. Take a Road Trip!

john



Simba
Registered: Jul 10, 2003
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I screwed up, I meant F14, but it appears that is even wrong. Sorry.



Dennis
Registered: Feb 16, 2002
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JackBarlow wrote:
Awesome shot Dennis.
The Blue Angels are due to fly here in Va Beach in two weeks. Take a Road Trip!

john


Thanks for the compliments on the image.

I'm on vacation now and that would be one long drive from Toronto thats for sure. But just the same I will pass on this drive down.

Thanks again



Dennis
Registered: Feb 16, 2002
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Country: Canada

Simba wrote:
I screwed up, I meant F14, but it appears that is even wrong. Sorry.


Well, this will clear the question for you.

Some one was very kind to send me in the right direction for a contact, that contact was not the pilot, but he knew the pilot flying for that day.

He passed on the information to him along with the image although small, and then sent me a message himself. Which was nice.

I mentioned that I would send him a print of the image, and asked what size he wanted. 5X7 or 8X10. He came back with POSTER Size for his wall.

Here is that e-mail along with plane information:

You are right, the aircraft we flew is and F/A-18F Super Hornet aka "Rhino". The airspeed is subsonic, but very close to the speed of sound. Thanks for the photograph series, that is cool. As far as size goes, I would love a print that is poster size. I guess you will have to let me know if the photo will look good at that size. I would like to frame it in a matte for my "I love me" wall. If you need more details, let me know. I look forward to seeing what else you captured. Thanks again.

I hope this helps clear up the plane flown in the image....



singlo
Registered: Jan 11, 2004
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AGreat shots. As the aircraft flies close to Mach one or the critical Mach number. Two supersonic pockets are formed at the upper and lower surfaces of the wing, which are termined by shock waves. A shock wave is a very thin layer of air molecules charcateriesed by sudden changes in local airpeed, pressure, temperature and air density. The condensation is caused by sudden drop in local static pressure, as the flow accelerates past the speed of sound and goes supersonic inside the supersonic pockets. Incidentally I teach aerospace engineering and aerodynamics in university......



pixelpushr
Registered: Sep 03, 2003
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Impressive!!



KapHn8d™
Registered: Aug 07, 2003
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I've seen this a few times when I was in the Navy. If you do a quick google search, you will find a ton of videos with similar caps... ie. http://www.extremefunnypictures.com/funnypic401.htm

anyway, you have captured it well here... congrats!



JohnVH
Registered: Aug 11, 2004
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I have talked to a couple F/A18 pilots, they were telling me how once you get to that point, you can control where that 2" thick area is on the aircraft, one pilot had it right on his canopy area, and as he sped up it went forward, he slowed down it would move back.

Must be awesome to be in that position!!



Dennis
Registered: Feb 16, 2002
Total Posts: 672
Country: Canada

singlo wrote:
AGreat shots. As the aircraft flies close to Mach one or the critical Mach number. Two supersonic pockets are formed at the upper and lower surfaces of the wing, which are termined by shock waves. A shock wave is a very thin layer of air molecules charcateriesed by sudden changes in local airpeed, pressure, temperature and air density. The condensation is caused by sudden drop in local static pressure, as the flow accelerates past the speed of sound and goes supersonic inside the supersonic pockets. Incidentally I teach aerospace engineering and aerodynamics in university......


Well first off all thanks for the compliment on the image, and also for how this effect happens, as a civilian we don't see this that often, so it is a big thing to me to see this happen. But I'm finding that this is a very common thing to happen.

Again thanks for the information



Dennis
Registered: Feb 16, 2002
Total Posts: 672
Country: Canada

pixelpushr wrote:
Impressive!!



Thanks for the compliments



Dennis
Registered: Feb 16, 2002
Total Posts: 672
Country: Canada

KapHn8d™ wrote:
I've seen this a few times when I was in the Navy. If you do a quick google search, you will find a ton of videos with similar caps... ie. http://www.extremefunnypictures.com/funnypic401.htm

anyway, you have captured it well here... congrats!


Yes I hear that this is a common thing to happen, but those that are not exposed to jets alot don't see this unless at an air show, and I have seen many here in Toronto, and this is the first for me.

As for the link thanks for sending that, I have seen this the other day from another user.

Thanks again.



Dennis
Registered: Feb 16, 2002
Total Posts: 672
Country: Canada

JohnVH wrote:
I have talked to a couple F/A18 pilots, they were telling me how once you get to that point, you can control where that 2" thick area is on the aircraft, one pilot had it right on his canopy area, and as he sped up it went forward, he slowed down it would move back.

Must be awesome to be in that position!!



You are right that would be neat to see this done.... For me though I rather keep my feet on the ground, I don't think that my stomach could take the G-Force......



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