thedruid wrote:
Don't forget to buy a lot of swabs and cleaning fluid for the D600 sensor, you are going to need them

I have new set of swabs and fluid I bought in 2010 or 2009......

>>>quote> Denying this problem is just weird. What are your reasons for it? quote<<<

I am not denying that dust can be a problem with any camera.
What I am implying is that you are exaggerating this problem with the D600.
Are you a Canon Troll?

If your camera has dust, clean it. It is not that hard.
I would have taken mine back to my local camera store for a free cleaning if it came with dust.

RRRoger wrote:
I am not denying that dust can be a problem with any camera.
What I am implying is that you are exaggerating this problem with the D600.
Are you a Canon Troll?

Hmm...I'm mildly disappointed to find such a juvenile response here...normally I expect to see this kind of reasoning from some on the dpreview forums.

In your world there is an army of thousands of Canon trolls who have infiltrated the world's forums, blogs and user reviews in an attempt to get people to choose the 6D over the D600. The Timelapse video was cleverly edited in Photoshop, and Lens Rentals along with Simon Joinson have been bought out by the big ugly Canon Chief Troll.

Wow. I bet they'll make a movie out of it someday. I wonder how the movie will explain how dpreview criticised the 5DIII's image quality while praising-to-the-hills the IQ from the D600/D800? A kind of clever doublebluff?

Proper John Le Carré stuff this!

Ok, I've had the D600 for a coupla days now.

First impressions on the vs 5DII factor:

- D600 doesn't quite sit as solidly in the hand somehow
- I do miss the jog-wheel and joystick combo, but not as much as I thought I would
- the body itself feels just as solid as the 5DII
- the viewfinder-view isn't bright enough to see sharpness in dimly-lit environments, even with f1.4 lenses
- live-view zoom-to-check-focus gets slow & laggy once you zoom in a few times
- after a few hundred clicks: normal dust-spots (after a few thousand I'll know if my 603xxxx D600 has the infamous debris-spot issue)
- shutter/mirror-slap is softer-sounding
- like the 5DII: pics seem a touch darker on the PC monitor than on the LCD, with contrast/colour accuracy good. Shooting with LCD-brightness at -1 is probably more accurate.
- JPG images out-of-the-camera look a little flat to me somehow (see example pic, lens used: Mamiya 80mm f4 Macro...might be because of oversharpening in-camera)
- ISO's outside the native maximum of 6400 are not as nice as those from the 5DII. 4000+ appears to be a rough tie (see example pic at ISO-6400, lens used: Nikkor AiS 50mm f1.4)
- there is no revolution in picture-settings...it's the same standard sharpness/contrast/saturation/tone settings. No fancy filters ala Olympus Pen.
- in-camera Noise Filter is about as ineffective as the 5DII's
- battery life seems to be about the same
- all pictures had a green cast to them (not on the LCD, but the image files themselves). I very quickly manually adjusted the WB to take away some of the green. Happier with the colours now.


So not exactly a glowing reference so far. But I do like the camera and feel it has potential to eventually create better images than my old Canon. The main tip towards this end is likely to shoot in RAW and process the images, as in-camera JPG-sharpening isn't as gritty as I'd like.


Here's the two pics I talked about:

flat-looking (not very 3D)...possibly user-error due to in-camera over-sharpened




noisy ISO-6400 files

Switching systems is hard. But muscle-memory will take over. Nikons are very well designed. A lot of your concerns/problems seem to be centered around in-body processing and output. If you shoot RAW you will see the files are a lot better than the 5DII.