Leica R Teles
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JohnJ
Registered: Jul 09, 2005
Total Posts: 2000
Country: Australia

sebboh wrote:
Mirek Elsner wrote:
carstenw wrote:
I have the 180/2 APO-Summicron-R, and it is a fantastic lens, really amazing. The Elmarit is better at f/2.8 up to some higher aperture, I don't know, maybe f/5.6. It is maybe the best lens in that focal length and aperture combination. It is very expensive though.


The auction site has one in great condition for $750.


the apo version?


I'll take two!



alundeb
Registered: Nov 06, 2005
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Country: Norway

Warm recommendations for the APO-Telyt R 180 3.4

It has a reputation for being exceptionally sharp at infinity. Yes, it is sharp, but modern Canikon tele zooms are sharper.

It also has a reputation for being soft close up. This is not a problem, and should not keeping anyone away for using it close.

The point of the lens today is its APO correction, especially the lack of both longitudinal CA and defocus color fringing.

Near MFD, wide open, D800E:







carstenw
Registered: Dec 26, 2005
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Country: Germany

Mirek Elsner wrote:
I wonder why Leica had several 180mm lenses. Are they from different era?


Yes, and some had different purposes as well. This is similar to the other manufacturers. I don't think that more than two 180-200mm prime lenses have co-existed in the lineup at any given time. Leica lenses are incredibly well built, however, which is why you can still find and buy all these lenses in great condition.



ultrapix
Registered: Feb 03, 2010
Total Posts: 661
Country: Italy

alundeb wrote:
Warm recommendations for the APO-Telyt R 180 3.4

It has a reputation for being exceptionally sharp at infinity. Yes, it is sharp, but modern Canikon tele zooms are sharper.

It also has a reputation for being soft close up. This is not a problem, and should not keeping anyone away for using it close.

The point of the lens today is its APO correction, especially the lack of both longitudinal CA and defocus color fringing.

Near MFD, wide open, D800E:








Couldn't agree more! Mine is a joy on Canon FF, or even on Olympus M43...


phuang3
Registered: Feb 09, 2005
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Country: Taiwan

alundeb wrote:
It also has a reputation for being soft close up. This is not a problem, and should not keeping anyone away for using it close.



Agree. It's normal to see tele lens gets a bit soft at MFD (except macro). Most hassleblad lenses are optimized at infinity too. BTW, I found Leica zoom lenses are quite good at close distance. Here is one shot from 105-280/f4.2 at close distance.








The following is from 35-70/f4, 70mm, MFD (not in macro mode)







Jonas B
Registered: Jun 05, 2005
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Country: Sweden

I can vouch for the 180/3.4 APO if you are on a budget. And yes, it was once developed for the army, or marine.

I have an ugly copy but the elements are in perfect order. The lens is too long for my needs but is sharp enough, as mentioned above: Testing it using a micro 4/3 camera says f/5.6 is the sweet spot in that case (with a sensor equal to a 45MP FF sensor if we are talking pixel density) and there is no problem with "sharpness".



JohnJ
Registered: Jul 09, 2005
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Country: Australia

180/3.4 @ 5.6 on 5D2, over 500m away, slightly hazy sky






100% crop






Mirek Elsner
Registered: Oct 03, 2005
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Country: United States

sebboh wrote:
Mirek Elsner wrote:
carstenw wrote:
I have the 180/2 APO-Summicron-R, and it is a fantastic lens, really amazing. The Elmarit is better at f/2.8 up to some higher aperture, I don't know, maybe f/5.6. It is maybe the best lens in that focal length and aperture combination. It is very expensive though.


The auction site has one in great condition for $750.


the apo version?

It is listed as that. It is still there.



alundeb
Registered: Nov 06, 2005
Total Posts: 4420
Country: Norway

It can't be the APO Elmarit. Not at that price. The one I see at $750 is not listed as APO.



Mirek Elsner
Registered: Oct 03, 2005
Total Posts: 1023
Country: United States

alundeb wrote:
It can't be the APO Elmarit. Not at that price. The one I see at $750 is not listed as APO.


You most likely see the same lens. Right under the search bar it says "Listed as Leica Apo-Elmarit-R APO Elmarit R 180mm f/2.8 180 mm F/... in category: Cameras & Photo>Lenses & Filters>Lenses "

I can see now that it is not the APO lens though - it looks different than the one shown on Diglloyd.com.



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