Sigma DP2 Merrill: Have any of you tried it?
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rattymouse
Registered: Feb 04, 2006
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Not even a little bit.

kewlcanon wrote:
Did I shake your cage ?

rattymouse wrote:
kewlcanon wrote:
Only useful up to ISO 400 .


That's a problem only for the lazy.




rattymouse
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kosmoskatten wrote:
Back in the film days I got by with ISO400 and mostly shot ISO100 film.
So for me, not a problem.

I do enjoy the decent high ISO of my Fuji X10 and other cameras but horses for courses.

I sold my DP2M (with some small regrets as the lens is a gem) but will keep my DP1M. Walking on the wide side.


Exactly my point. ISO400 is not the limitation that some believe it to be.



kewlcanon
Registered: Mar 28, 2009
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Not a limitation for kosmoskatten since he shots mostly ISO100.

rattymouse wrote:
kosmoskatten wrote:
Back in the film days I got by with ISO400 and mostly shot ISO100 film.
So for me, not a problem.

I do enjoy the decent high ISO of my Fuji X10 and other cameras but horses for courses.

I sold my DP2M (with some small regrets as the lens is a gem) but will keep my DP1M. Walking on the wide side.


Exactly my point. ISO400 is not the limitation that some believe it to be.



kewlcanon
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C'mon admit it. There is no relation between ISO 400 and being lazy. I think you're expecting everybody to shoot under ISO 400 huh ? .

rattymouse wrote:
Not even a little bit.

kewlcanon wrote:
Did I shake your cage ?

rattymouse wrote:
kewlcanon wrote:
Only useful up to ISO 400 .


That's a problem only for the lazy.





rattymouse
Registered: Feb 04, 2006
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kewlcanon wrote:
C'mon admit it. There is no relation between ISO 400 and being lazy. I think you're expecting everybody to shoot under ISO 400 huh ? .




That was not my point so I am not going to try to defend it.



Mescalamba
Registered: Jul 06, 2011
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Lazy to bring tripod.

DP2 is sorta "one film speed" pony, but it does it great so why not.

As most mirrorless its meant to complement something else, not to be "one and only". Unless you shoot only landscapes and still lifes.

Yea and dont forget to buy 2-3 extra batteries.



kewlcanon
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There are places that you can't bring tripod. I admit though base ISO IQ is very impressive. I might pick it up if the price drops some more for landscape, I'm too cheap .

Mescalamba wrote:
Lazy to bring tripod.

DP2 is sorta "one film speed" pony, but it does it great so why not.

As most mirrorless its meant to complement something else, not to be "one and only". Unless you shoot only landscapes and still lifes.

Yea and dont forget to buy 2-3 extra batteries.



itai195
Registered: Aug 08, 2011
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It's a good value as a landscape camera for $800 in my opinion, particularly if it's complementing another system. Other mirrorless body/lens combos will cost much more and won't deliver nearly the IQ.



vaflower
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I just bought one dp2 merrill. My5d mkiii is very competent camera almost everywhere but from what I read the dp2 would be better in its game.



sebboh
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Mescalamba wrote:
Lazy to bring tripod.


tripods don't make people stand still, but there are lots of other reasons not to choose the camera for shooting people. it's great within certain contraints, but if you want an everything camera this ain't it.



Mescalamba
Registered: Jul 06, 2011
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I was just guessing what rattymouse meant. Maybe I should add this sign "?" to the end of sentence..

Im perfectly aware of limitations. I think DP with 50/2.8 might be interesting as ppl camera too. Havent seen bokeh yet tho.. And it will be far from "all-around" solution.



Chrissearle
Registered: May 22, 2012
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My 5D3 is seeing very little landscape use now that I have the DP2M, it does, clearly, beat the 5D3 in the resolution department and is so portable, even with the lightweight Benro tripod I use it with, far better than lugging the DSLR and RRS beast around ( which I used to, even on 20 Km treks).



amplexis
Registered: Mar 11, 2005
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i preordered a DP3 and the closer is the1:3 max maginfication. i can't wait to see merrill shots that tight.



juan_amores
Registered: May 21, 2009
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Two more:

Calle_Yunquera_1 por John Loves, en Flickr


Camino_Yunquera_1 por John Loves, en Flickr



rattymouse
Registered: Feb 04, 2006
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Mescalamba wrote:
I was just guessing what rattymouse meant. Maybe I should add this sign "?" to the end of sentence..

Im perfectly aware of limitations. I think DP with 50/2.8 might be interesting as ppl camera too. Havent seen bokeh yet tho.. And it will be far from "all-around" solution.


I have seen excellent images from the Merrill sensors at ISO400. So it's a 3 film speed camera, 4 if you dont mind monochrome at ISO800.



Mescalamba
Registered: Jul 06, 2011
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Well, it usually depends whats "acceptable noise" and whats not. It differs per person. Tho as monochrome its actually great (as is DP1/2/3M..).

For me it would be probably 100-200-any in "MM" mode.



rattymouse
Registered: Feb 04, 2006
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The noise at ISO400 is quite good. A huge improvement over the past sensors.



Yakim Peled
Registered: Nov 18, 2004
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Re Limitations: I believe that most of them are within our brains, not our gear.

Happy shooting,
Yakim.



kosmoskatten
Registered: Oct 11, 2005
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Yakim Peled wrote:
Re Limitations: I believe that most of them are within our brains, not our gear.

Happy shooting,
Yakim.


So, we are officially retarded now?


/ Tommy Lobo



Yakim Peled
Registered: Nov 18, 2004
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Maybe just in need of a little PoV shift.

Happy shooting,
Yakim.



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