Sigma DP2 Merrill: Have any of you tried it?
/forum/topic/1150855/47

1       2       3              47      
48
       49              91       92       end

kosmoskatten
Registered: Oct 11, 2005
Total Posts: 3059
Country: Sweden

Yes Yakim, I think I get your point and I can agree with that.

I have a difference in color rendering between my right and my left eye, my right eye being a bit "warmer" in perception than the other.

I know people might chime in and say it is "impossible" but from years of louping slides on a light table I know it is so. It is also regardless of which eye I start out with on the light table and I know the difference is just about the same as a BW KR1.5 (1A) filter.

Perhaps it is due to my eye surgery (Lasik) and perhaps because I didn't do both eyes at the same time. I don't know and I don't really care that much but. I even forgot which was which since I haven't louped slides in a while but even in front of the macbook (alu) I can make out that my perception is warmer on my right eye.

In everyday/practical it means nothing as both eyes both contribute to the perception as a whole. Perhaps my right eye has developed a tint to my preference after years of peering through binoculars and cameras. Everything just looks a little nicer.

Regardless of that sidetrack I think what I prefer is a sensor/camera that agrees with how I interpret a scene so I don't have to second guess colors and hues as much in post pro as I have to do with some other sensors/cameras.

And to finish off on topic: I have seen some very nice DP Merrill samples but in some instances I see color deviations in open shades and other peculiar transitions. I don't know what to make of it yet as I haven't worked any files yet.



Luis Cunha
Registered: Dec 26, 2012
Total Posts: 113
Country: Portugal

cjrpostma wrote:
I enjoy seeing your shots on the previous page, Michiel, Morrie, and Neil.

As there is some discussion of black and white Foveon images, I would like to post some examples later today from work. The look can change radically when adjusting in SPP the X3 Fill Light slider.

I find that turning exposure to -2.0 and fill light to +2.0 gives an instant HDR hyper sharpened look. That is not normally a look I go for however it is very interesting to see in this case. If using this look, a strange "shadow halo" as I will call it can form in certain areas. It is therefore best to do a dual raw conversion and selectively apply the effect. I'll make an effort to post two conversions of the same image later today.


Looking forward to see your B&W .-) examples.



Luis Cunha
Registered: Dec 26, 2012
Total Posts: 113
Country: Portugal

A confession:
Im tired of digital races. I wish I could do everything from wide (I like wide) to tele (tele stops for me on 100mm) and macro (macro is fundamental for me) with the most compact, pro quality camera possible.

Its obvious that I cant gave up from my FFrame DSLR (maybe and only because the macro aspect) and stay just with one or two Merrill cameras but the temptation is big. Very big.

Im tired of big, heavy cameras that became obsolete in 3 years or less.
I do pro work for screen and offset print and I dream of a tiny camera that solve all my problems without a Leica price.
Im a dreamer and crazy? Yes I am ;-)



Kit Laughlin
Registered: Mar 08, 2004
Total Posts: 3917
Country: Australia

Luis, the E-E1 can do macro. I was a full-frame shooter for all the years that they have been around (and 20 years more with film). The X-E1 is, for me, the first non-FF camera whose images I really like.

I use the excellent CV 12/5.6 on an adapter for wide; Fuji's 35/1.4 as my normal (and it has been favourably compared with Leica's best lenses; all I know is that it's good enough for me), and a number of Rokkors for medium tele, and the 60/2.4 for macro.

One X-E1 is heavier than one DP Merrill, but less than two. And the X-E1's EVF works wellas well as an optical finder? No, but well enough.

And there will be excellent raw processors very soon, too.

Or, for you: a DP2 Merrill and an X-E1. This is the choice I have made, and am happy with it.



sandycrane
Registered: Nov 29, 2003
Total Posts: 789
Country: United States

neilvan
One of the problems with the DPMs is that they sometimes don't reproduce well on the small screem. Those of us who have one can usually mentally extrapolate what we see to what we know must be there. Your photo of the moss covered tree does not demand the use of our imagination. It is brilliant just the way it is! Fantastic!



neilvan
Registered: Aug 30, 2004
Total Posts: 538
Country: Canada

Thanks sandycrane! I was rather happy with that one myself, those mossy trees are difficult to capture nicely (I find it difficult anyway) and that one just stood out as I was walking by...

Check out the pixel-peeping 100% crop, very little PP, zero sharpening. 1/5 sec @ f/4.0, ISO 100, Shade WB






sculptormic
Registered: Feb 05, 2012
Total Posts: 2582
Country: Netherlands

That's what this sensor is all about! Looks great and you don't need a telelens



Collin Orthner
Registered: Feb 09, 2011
Total Posts: 25
Country: Canada

neilvan - Beautiful image of that moss covered tree! Caught some great light.



Yakim Peled
Registered: Nov 18, 2004
Total Posts: 16903
Country: Israel

Just think what would happen if Sigma would put this sensor in MILC....

Happy shooting,
Yakim.



Luis Cunha
Registered: Dec 26, 2012
Total Posts: 113
Country: Portugal

Fuji and Sigma should make a camera together.
Rangefinder style with foveon sensor.
Still dreaming... ,-)



carlitos
Registered: Feb 12, 2010
Total Posts: 621
Country: United States

Luis Cunha wrote:
Fuji and Sigma should make a camera together.
Rangefinder style with foveon sensor.
Still dreaming... ,-)



Leica-Foveon



Luis Cunha
Registered: Dec 26, 2012
Total Posts: 113
Country: Portugal

Better; but the price... 8-E True rangefinder.
Fuji-Foveon as a start ,-)



sculptormic
Registered: Feb 05, 2012
Total Posts: 2582
Country: Netherlands

If Sigma is clever they would produce a mirrorless Foveon camera themselves with interchangable lensmounts. Would be a nr 1 hit! But they don't. Why? I don't know.



mpmendenhall
Registered: Aug 09, 2008
Total Posts: 2034
Country: United States

Yakim Peled wrote:
Just think what would happen if Sigma would put this sensor in MILC....


Breathtakingly egregious color shift and smearing when used with anything except specially designed, slow aperture / extra telecentric lenses?



mpmendenhall
Registered: Aug 09, 2008
Total Posts: 2034
Country: United States

Luis Cunha wrote:
Fuji and Sigma should make a camera together.
Rangefinder style with foveon sensor.
Still dreaming... ,-)


Given the current need for careful matching between sensor and lens design, perhaps it would make more sense for Sigma to partner with Ricoh to produce a few GXR modules.



Luis Cunha
Registered: Dec 26, 2012
Total Posts: 113
Country: Portugal

Not bad.



Collin Orthner
Registered: Feb 09, 2011
Total Posts: 25
Country: Canada

A quick FYI. I am using the Promaster 4480 battery intended as a replacement for Panasonic CGA-S005. Works without any modification. The Panasonic CGA-S005 however does not fit without modification.



Luis Cunha
Registered: Dec 26, 2012
Total Posts: 113
Country: Portugal

Thanks.
Better performance? Better price than Sigmas battery?



Collin Orthner
Registered: Feb 09, 2011
Total Posts: 25
Country: Canada

Luis Cunha wrote:
Thanks.
Better performance? Better price than Sigmas battery?


Full disclosure - I work at a camera shop.

Seems to be pretty much the same performance. Pricing in the US varies from $30 - $50 , but may be easier to find than the Sigma. The Sigma BP-41 can be had in Canada for as little as C$29.95. I bought the Promaster battery before our distributor had stock on the Sigmas.



Luis Cunha
Registered: Dec 26, 2012
Total Posts: 113
Country: Portugal

Thanks Collin; Im in Europe. Just an ocean ,-)
The info is welcome.



1       2       3              47      
48
       49              91       92       end