Sigma DP2 Merrill: Have any of you tried it?
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sculptormic
Registered: Feb 05, 2012
Total Posts: 1403
Country: Netherlands

Yes. Can't find it anymore on their website. May some stores still have stock.



Luis Cunha
Registered: Dec 26, 2012
Total Posts: 113
Country: Portugal

Anyway it must be a weak solution.
The lens alone should perform the best way, I guess.



Kit Laughlin
Registered: Mar 08, 2004
Total Posts: 3526
Country: Australia

I got my screw-on close-up lens from B&H.

Having used the DP2 Merrill for some weeks now, and while waiting for the pano kit to arrive from Germany, I think this camera will suit your work, Luis. For me the screw-on close-up lens has zero negative effect on the lens's rendering capacity.

As Michiel said, the moment you see any of your files at 100%, it's very likely your response will be "wow" or whatever the equivalent word is in Portuguese!



Luis Cunha
Registered: Dec 26, 2012
Total Posts: 113
Country: Portugal

Uaaaaau!!!
(same sound, different letter ,-)

Nice feedback Kit.
So the close up lens works?!
Could you kindly tell us how close can you focus with it?
Some samples?

And what about that Pano Kit? Could you also show us what is it?



sculptormic
Registered: Feb 05, 2012
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Country: Netherlands

Here is my setup for Pano's. It is a bit heavy but I could get this Roundabout NP for a good price. I think I can hang an MF camera on it as well.
I must say that I do most simple pano's out of hand because I like to saunter about light.













sculptormic
Registered: Feb 05, 2012
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Kit, you gonne reach post 3000! Congratulations and a happy New year!



Luis Cunha
Registered: Dec 26, 2012
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Country: Portugal

Pano. Right ,-)



Kit Laughlin
Registered: Mar 08, 2004
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Country: Australia

Thanks Michiel, and the compliments of the season to you all.

Luis; thanks. As soon as the kit arrives (it is much smaller than Michiel's) I will post an image or two. The DP2 M is perfect for panos, in my view, because it's like a tiny view camera when mounted on a tripod. I use a Hoodman Loupe on the back of mine; I will shoot the whole portable setup once I have sorted it out —about ten day's time, I would say.

Cheers, KL



sculptormic
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Luis Cunha
Registered: Dec 26, 2012
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Country: Portugal

Thanks Kit .-)
Im curious about how close is possible to focus with that close up lens.
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Does anybody played the Cartier Bresson role with this "Foveon-Leica"?
Iīm not much about that "moment" in photography (or emulate others) but... staying still, paying attention, thinking about B&W values and snap the moment. Would be fun.

Bresson didnīt look for crispy, exact images but instead the whole construction of the moment. O tiny fast camera was needed and used and almost the same lens. A Merrill is also that camera.
I canīt stay still for hours, paying attention, drawing with my eyes waiting to press the shutter with a dsrl+lens (1,5 kg). Itīs not too discreet either. .-)

Even if itīs not my style I like to try other peoples shoes as an exercise. I begin to like and respect more their work and thereīs always something to learn.
Like children; learning by imitation until the original voice is revealed.



cjrpostma
Registered: Sep 13, 2011
Total Posts: 91
Country: United States

I have the AML-2 close up lens for this camera and one can focus fairly close. I'll have to go home and check to give a useful estimate. I can't Google for it right now. Image quality is amazing from it though. A few pages back, the picture of the cat that I posted is with the AML-2 attached. I don't think I cropped much, if at all. The cat was also moving all over so it was very hard to focus on him. I'm sure I could have gotten closer if he was still. I also used it to take some very close head shots. I could pretty much fill the entire frame with a face if shooting vertical. I don't remember if I could have gotten closer.

Also, I just received the RRS grip set and it is amazing. I love this camera even more now.



Luis Cunha
Registered: Dec 26, 2012
Total Posts: 113
Country: Portugal

You mean this cat?
http://www.flickr.com/photos/62964965@N05/8257775415/

Which grip is that?

Thank you



Kit Laughlin
Registered: Mar 08, 2004
Total Posts: 3526
Country: Australia

The AML-2 close focusses to about 20cm, from memory. And (again from memory) it behaves like a 75mm lens.

Re. using the DP2M as a street shooter: I have had no problems there, for a number of reasons: no one finds the appearance of the camera threatening in any way; I have asked a number of people sitting around on the street if I could take their photo; all said yes. The camera is extremely quiet; the sound of the shutter is not audible at norm street sound levels.

The AF works quickly; there is an MF function, too that shows DOF overlaid on the actual distance the camera is focussed on. As well, pressing the centre button magnifies the area being focussed on and if on a tripod, this allows you to check the focus near and far (by moving the focus mark to different areas of the screen and magnifying these). That magnified view does not show the stopped-down effects though; as far as I can tell, the magnified view is showing you what the sensor sees at ƒ2.8, but it is useful for assessing where in the image you want to put the focus point.

So, I think this little camera might prove more flexible that might first appear.



nandadevieast
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nandadevieast
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Collin Orthner
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Beautiful work nandadevieast! Colours are fabulous.



nandadevieast
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mortyb
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Collin Orthner wrote:
Beautiful work nandadevieast! Colours are fabulous.


+1. Beautiful shots.



alba63
Registered: Dec 21, 2003
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Country: Germany

While I haven't tried a dp2m, I have been (very recently only) very interested by it and browsed through a lot of threads in forums etc. and downloaded lots of samples, including a lot of full rez plus a few RAW files.
After my first enthousiasm and when I looked at the files on my calibrated and sharp monitor, I finally was not too impressed by what I saw. Not the camera side, that is clear, but the photographic results.

What I don't like in what I see:
1. General image impression is kind of like disturbed by overly enhanced tiny "detail specks" that give the files a rough, rippled look where my eyes are somehow lost in myriads of dots instead of what the photo actually shows.
2. When viewing in large view or even 100% view, lots of false detail and grid- like artefacts become visible. For larger objects (like any digital camera) things can look amazingly good, for smaller frequency detail the rendition gets different but not better than Bayer pattern files.
3. Colour is "different"; often I find the dp2m colour to have low saturation which is basically ok, but what really disturbs me is a certain kind of tone mapping/ HDR look of the files.

In the end the idea of getting LF resolution in a compact camera format is too sweet, but my impression is that the Merrill is only apparently close to the large format.

I also must say that the better 20+ MP cameras with traditional bayer matrix, like my Canon 5dII or the Nex-7 generally don't make me want more sharpness or detail.

In respect to the limits of sensor resolution I might like the blurring approach of the classic digital cameras better than the rough filterless approach. But that may be personal preference. I used to shoot with the Kodak SLR/n and also with a Mamiya ZD (SLR version), and I liked the Mamiya files quite a bit (much better quality than the Kodak), but the lack of Bayer mask + no AA filter in the dp2m seems a bit over the top to me.

Maybe some of those issues (like the fake HDR look) can and will be adressed by new RAW converters like Lightroom or others, until then I don't feel to much attracted to the merrill.

And it is true: I only looked to files on the monitor, no printing done.

So sorry for being the devil's advocate here, I had high hopes after the first look at the Merrill, but in the end I don't think I would like the results this camera gives. (I don't care high ISO or all the bells and whistles Sigma does NOT give).

Cheers
Bernie



kosmoskatten
Registered: Oct 11, 2005
Total Posts: 3015
Country: Sweden

Bernie: it is always interesting to hear thoughts on and experiences with cameras regardless of they are in favor of the discussed camera or not. So, don't hold back.

I am quite interested in the DP 1M since it ticks a few boxes for me but since there aren't any around to tinker with over here I would have to buy one unfondled so I appreciate all input.

/ Henrik



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