6D - hands on & first experience
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Ralph Conway
Registered: Jul 31, 2008
Total Posts: 3833
Country: Germany

I guess there is noone sitting at Canon mentioning: "What else could we do to drive our customers grazy? Ah! Lets put in some SD-cards instead of CF!"

I prefere the idea they did it for size to get a smaller body design.

SD is well established. Even I do not like the size (my fingers may be to clumpsy) and the much more expensive CF cards are faster, I guess they will work fine.

The change I am not happy about is from joystick to this new (old - already been in 60D) multi-in-wheel-thing.



eosfun
Registered: Dec 22, 2004
Total Posts: 2120
Country: Netherlands

I prefere the idea they did it for size to get a smaller body design

Effects on body size are minor. SD has less vulnerable contacts, it is an interface standard supported by much more devices than CF. Also, an SD connector is cheaper to build in the camera in the first place, I am sure that was more important to Canon engineers than any other consideration.

Have EOSfun



ukkisavosta
Registered: Nov 28, 2010
Total Posts: 417
Country: Finland

Migrating to SD cards is not such a big revolution as many make it out to be. Au contraire: SD cards are smaller and almost every laptop has a card reader. Also, there is nothing special about CF cards, and a CF slot does not make the body any more professional. Like eosfun points out, SD card slots don't have any pins that can bend or break, and you can be very sloppy and carefree when you insert/remove the card. Furthermore, the card won't pop out on the floor like a CF will, if you happen to press the release button too hard. What's not to like about SD?

As for the 60D style multi-selector, that is indeed a bit of a let-down. You get used to it, but it is not right next to your thumb like the joystick on the 5D2. I use the separate button and front wheel to select the AF point myself, because it is faster and less fiddly that way. The multi-selector is not really useful during shooting, it's basically there for browsing images and using the menu.

Jaakko



nalax
Registered: Nov 18, 2011
Total Posts: 60
Country: United States

Ralph Conway wrote:
I guess there is noone sitting at Canon mentioning: "What else could we do to drive our customers grazy? Ah! Lets put in some SD-cards instead of CF!"

I prefere the idea they did it for size to get a smaller body design.

SD is well established. Even I do not like the size (my fingers may be to clumpsy) and the much more expensive CF cards are faster, I guess they will work fine.

The change I am not happy about is from joystick to this new (old - already been in 60D) multi-in-wheel-thing.


I'm hoping that the 6d multi-wheel functions better than the one in the 60d. I found that the 60d wheel to slower and somewhat fumbly compared to the joy stick. But I'll be able to live with it along with the SD cards.

I'm looking forward to the slightly smaller body and hopefully improved higher ISO which will be the ticket for shooting day long events.



ciprian.trofin
Registered: Oct 18, 2009
Total Posts: 373
Country: Romania

The AF system in 6D has just a few points, users will mostly use the center. The joystick use would be rather limited. It makes sense for AF point selection in 7D/5D3/1D but not really for anything else.



Ralph Conway
Registered: Jul 31, 2008
Total Posts: 3833
Country: Germany

ciprian.trofin wrote:
The AF system in 6D has just a few points, users will mostly use the center. The joystick use would be rather limited. It makes sense for AF point selection in 7D/5D3/1D but not really for anything else.


I use it permanetly on my 5D II for srolling through a zoomed in image.



ukkisavosta
Registered: Nov 28, 2010
Total Posts: 417
Country: Finland

ciprian.trofin wrote:
The AF system in 6D has just a few points, users will mostly use the center. The joystick use would be rather limited. It makes sense for AF point selection in 7D/5D3/1D but not really for anything else.


That depends. I regularly use the outer focus points on my 60D. Although I do agree that scrolling through the 9 focus points is pretty quick without a joystick as well.

Jaakko



StillFingerz
Registered: Jul 29, 2010
Total Posts: 3408
Country: United States

A refurbished 5D2 for $1320 direct from canon...damn them



Ralph Conway
Registered: Jul 31, 2008
Total Posts: 3833
Country: Germany

5D II is still a wonderful camera body, Jerry.



devaulrg
Registered: Sep 01, 2009
Total Posts: 187
Country: United States

Don't think this has been posted yet...

Some more samples: http://www.whatdigitalcamera.com/equipment/galleries/sample-images/canon/34718/2/canon-eos-6d-beta-image-sample-gallery.html



senzazn12
Registered: Nov 15, 2012
Total Posts: 317
Country: United States

This might turn out to be a good DSLR. Nice to know the outer AF points work better than 5D II.



BrianO
Registered: Aug 21, 2008
Total Posts: 8547
Country: United States

devaulrg wrote: ...Some more samples: http://www.whatdigitalcamera.com/equipment/galleries/sample-images/canon/34718/2/canon-eos-6d-beta-image-sample-gallery.html

That shot of the book lit by the "kerosene-lantern" lamp reminds me of an available-light shot I did some years back using Kodak Ektar 1000...only this one looks even better. Amazingly low noise for 12,800 ISO.

I had to use a tripod and really slow shutter; this one is done at 1/200! (It could also have been done at 1/100 and f/8 for even more DoF to get the book more in focus, which wouod have been my choice.)

I'm putting this camera on my short list for sure.



thw2
Registered: Dec 27, 2004
Total Posts: 2855
Country: N/A

devaulrg wrote:
Some more samples: http://www.whatdigitalcamera.com/equipment/galleries/sample-images/canon/34718/2/canon-eos-6d-beta-image-sample-gallery.html


Definitely some heavy NR here. But it's still impressive, especially when compared against 5D3 here



Shutterbug2006
Registered: Jun 03, 2010
Total Posts: 1024
Country: Canada

thw2 wrote:
devaulrg wrote:
Some more samples: http://www.whatdigitalcamera.com/equipment/galleries/sample-images/canon/34718/2/canon-eos-6d-beta-image-sample-gallery.html


Definitely some heavy NR here. But it's still impressive, especially when compared against 5D3 here


Woah!



MayaTlab
Registered: Jul 28, 2012
Total Posts: 52
Country: France

If jpeg pictures are any indication, the 6D's performance at high ISO seems to be closer to the 1D X than the 5D III. Let's see if it's also quite good at low ISOs.



pixelpix
Registered: Jul 19, 2002
Total Posts: 376
Country: Australia

Digital Rev just posted their prices in their online store.... $2300 Australian Body Only and $3200 Australian for the 24-105 Kit. Let's hope those intro prices don't stick around for long.



Ralph Conway
Registered: Jul 31, 2008
Total Posts: 3833
Country: Germany

The amazon preorder price here in germany went already down about 18 . In fact that does not meen much, because at first it was priced about 17 over the given MSPR.

By the way: This picture set is the first convincing me in terms of sharpness, too. Thank you for this link, devaulrg.

Ralph



Ralph Conway
Registered: Jul 31, 2008
Total Posts: 3833
Country: Germany

Shutterbug2006 wrote:
thw2 wrote:
devaulrg wrote:
Some more samples: http://www.whatdigitalcamera.com/equipment/galleries/sample-images/canon/34718/2/canon-eos-6d-beta-image-sample-gallery.html


Definitely some heavy NR here. But it's still impressive, especially when compared against 5D3 here


Woah!


You name it!



Ralph Conway
Registered: Jul 31, 2008
Total Posts: 3833
Country: Germany

Manuals are published now. Thank you "thw2":

http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1168947/0#11145244



Erizza
Registered: Oct 04, 2011
Total Posts: 22
Country: United States

Didnt see this mentioned on here but it looks like the release date at least in the US is firming up.

Preorderd at Best Buy with a ship date of December 9th.

B&H and Adorama both now show 12/10 as the release date also.



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