Sony RX1 FF Mirrorless (fixed lens)
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joe88
Registered: Oct 23, 2009
Total Posts: 2222
Country: United States

Martin, congrats on the RX1. Share some pics soon!

Can you tell us about the focus peaking with manual focus? Does it work similar or as easy like the NEX cameras and is there a distance scale on the LCD?



h00ligan
Registered: Jan 03, 2010
Total Posts: 2155
Country: United States

Makten wrote:
carstenw wrote:
Does the Voigtländer viewfinder have framelines?


Yes, it's one frame for 35 mm which I'd guess shows like ~85-90% of what the camera sees at 2-3 meters distance. A nice thing with having the viewfinder in the hotshoe is that parallax is only vertically, which is not the case with a Leica M camera. This will let you compose quite tricky scenes accurately regarding perspective.

sebboh wrote:
sweet! can you let us know how you decide to configure the camera best for manual focus? if i get one i'm sure i'll use it almost exclusively in mf.


Of course! But I don't understand why you would use MF if you don't have to. I'll only use it in low light, when AF is out of the question.

A really great thing is the MF ring and its functioning. If you turn it fast, focus will go from MFD to infinity with one or two quick turns (totally like 270 degrees or less), while it changes to precision if you move it slowly.


That is such a massively big deal for me. Huge. I'm so fired of the fly by wire 100 turns bullsh..I'm super flag to hear that.

I'm also in the same position. I just need to get off my backside. I have three L,s to sell and a nex system. And maybe an rx100. We will see. It may be a good second cam when carrying an possibly needing a zoom.

But really I mostly want to just get down to 24-70ii and 70-200 !! On my 5d2. And probably keep one 35L selling the 35,24,135 nex 5n contax 28/45 next kit and 50mm.


Cleaning house. I've been tracking what I use. I'm not a collector.



wayne seltzer
Registered: Dec 22, 2007
Total Posts: 4087
Country: United States

Just got.mine today and will shoot some tonight.
Love the solid build and lens is performing well wide open.
Will get EVF in a few days.



sebboh
Registered: Nov 02, 2009
Total Posts: 10234
Country: United States

Makten wrote:
sebboh wrote:
sweet! can you let us know how you decide to configure the camera best for manual focus? if i get one i'm sure i'll use it almost exclusively in mf.


Of course! But I don't understand why you would use MF if you don't have to. I'll only use it in low light, when AF is out of the question.


AF annoys me. it's always getting in my way at critical times or just not able to accomplish what i want it to. it looks like the RX1 can be configured to be in MF mode but do a single point AF at the press of a button, so that is probably the mode i'd keep it in. how much i use AF depends on how many situations i can trust it in – which i'm not terribly optimistic about there being a lot of.



JimBuchanan
Registered: Jan 11, 2006
Total Posts: 1448
Country: United States

maiku wrote:
Do we have any word from RRS as to whether or not they'll be making a plate for the RX1?


I have a vertical finger grip/base/dovetail design for the RX1, but I have to finish the NEX-6 version this month, first.



philber
Registered: May 21, 2008
Total Posts: 7423
Country: France

Congratulations, Wayne!



Makten
Registered: Jul 14, 2008
Total Posts: 4044
Country: Sweden

joe88 wrote:
Can you tell us about the focus peaking with manual focus?


I haven't tried it and I don't think I will, because I never felt that peaking did anything good with the NEX-5N. But yes, there is a distance scale, though with very sparse markings and I don't see any point using it either.



joe88
Registered: Oct 23, 2009
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Country: United States

Martin, thanks for the info. I guess I have to wait for mine to arrive and check it out.



wayne seltzer
Registered: Dec 22, 2007
Total Posts: 4087
Country: United States

philber wrote:
Congratulations, Wayne!

Thanks Philippe! Hope you get to try one with EVF soon at your local camera store.



SimonBl
Registered: Aug 08, 2005
Total Posts: 214
Country: Australia

Hi all - thanks for this thread. I got a phone call yesterday from our CBD Sony store in Perth, in Western Australia to say that they'd received their TWO RX1's and did I want to collect mine? Woohoo...

Had a good play last night, happy so far. It did take me a while to work out how to adjust shutter speed in S priority mode though! :-). I'm hoping i can leave my 5D MK III home more often now.

Can't wait for LR to support it though, I miss the RAW editing...



tulaev
Registered: Nov 17, 2012
Total Posts: 88
Country: Russia

Sony RX1 : prepare to be a lot amazed and a little annoyed.
http://tashley1.zenfolio.com/blog/2012/12/sony-rx1-prepared-to-be-a-lot-amazed-and-a-little-annoyed

RX1 vs NEX-7+24/1.8.
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/post/50452284



Jochenb
Registered: May 25, 2010
Total Posts: 1763
Country: Belgium

Now Adobe RAW support!

dpreview

(Might as well post it in this thread)



Makten
Registered: Jul 14, 2008
Total Posts: 4044
Country: Sweden

Jochenb wrote:
Now Adobe RAW support!

dpreview

(Might as well post it in this thread)


But not for CS5. F*ck.



joe88
Registered: Oct 23, 2009
Total Posts: 2222
Country: United States

Mine just arrived. Its a sweet camera, very well made, worthy of the price tag. It badly needs a grip though.



joe88
Registered: Oct 23, 2009
Total Posts: 2222
Country: United States

I can't believe Sony wants us to fork out extra $$ for a separate battery charger! I ordered a "wasabi" charger and 2 cheap batteries from Amazon for $20. Hope it works.

Martin, how accurate do you find the CV35 finder framelines on the RX1? I'll need the EVF but its out of stock everywhere. Am thinking of supplementing it with either the X2 or CV35 finder.

I'm thinking of adding a cheap flipback grip for now. Anyone tried these?
http://flipbac.com/camera-grip-about.htm



HelenaN
Registered: Jul 18, 2008
Total Posts: 1109
Country: Norway

Jochenb wrote:
Now Adobe RAW support!

dpreview

(Might as well post it in this thread)


Thanks for letting us know! I upgraded from LR 3.6 just now, and so far so good. No problem importing the RX1 RAWs.

This evening after sunset I was at the Christmas market in town and took some shots with both RX1 and my trusty old 5D + 35L. To my surprise, whenever I had captured the same with both cameras the Sony photo looked better, sometimes much better! And I don't just mean at high ISO. Not a single mis-focused photo either and it only hunted once even though it was relatively dark.It was very cold, so I didn't stay long and didn't get any real keepers, but I'll try and post some pictures in the photo thread tomorrow.

Btw. from what I have seen so far I really like the changes they have made with Lightroom 4.3 compared to 3.6.



michaelwatkins
Registered: Oct 08, 2011
Total Posts: 1698
Country: Canada

Duncan Davidson posts an update now that ACR/LR have been released with RX1 support:

http://duncandavidson.com/blog/2012/12/rx1_raw

His first looks if you missed it:

http://duncandavidson.com/blog/2012/12/rx1_first



Makten
Registered: Jul 14, 2008
Total Posts: 4044
Country: Sweden

I had some issues with my RX1 yesterday. After ~1 hour in -10 Celsius, I got an error message, something like "could not write to card, do you want to make a recovery?". Then the screen went black and I could not get the camera working again. But I took out the battery and warmed it for a couple of minutes, and it worked again. The file that was supposed to be written to the card when the failure happened was gone though.

I thought this was related to the cold and that maybe the processor consumes much current when writing to the card. But later, when the camera was warmed up, it said "no card" when starting it up. It took one more powering up before it found the card.



michaelwatkins
Registered: Oct 08, 2011
Total Posts: 1698
Country: Canada

On cold weather use, elsewhere I read one report of a user getting about 20 shots in -5C but not sure over what time period and how much interaction with the camera occurred at low temps. The same owner also has the NEX-7 and expects about 100 shots from that camera in similar conditions.

The RX1 uses a single cell power pack; the NEX-7 uses a dual cell pack; some DSLRs use three cell packs.

No lithium ion tech is great in very cold operating temps but at least multi-cell packs (in series, higher voltage, lower current draw from the device) will hold up longer before voltage drop causes the camera safety circuitry to shut things down.

Regardless of the number of cells in a pack, available capacity will be significantly reduced when operating at -5 to -10 degrees. At minus 10C the spec sheets for comparable cells suggest less than half of normal available capacity can be extracted and it could be less than that depending on where the low voltage cut off is; It would not surprise me to see the RX1 deliver well under 100 or even under 50 exposures rather than the 250 claimed at 20C.

That said I've never bought a camera based on how many cells or what capacity a camera's pack has. I'd just buy more packs and keep spares warm inside my coat.

When it's really cold out I guess we can pretend our battery packs are film. 20 shots per pack. Maybe with care one could get 36 and it'll really feel like a 35mm film camera...



Jochenb
Registered: May 25, 2010
Total Posts: 1763
Country: Belgium

Do any of you already have the EVF?
I know it's excellent, but how does the camera handle with it mounted? Doesn't it feel too small?
One of the things that's holding me back (European price is another one) is the point & shoot handling of the RX1. I also own a Fuji X-E1 and Sony RX100 and I enjoy shooting the Fuji much more. It has a grip and built-in viewfinder. With the RX100 you feel more 'disconnected' from a scene IMHO.
That's why the EVF would be a must-buy for me.



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