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cputeq
Registered: Jun 25, 2008
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Correct - if there *IS* a performance hit, I haven't seen it or read about it.



Kingfishphoto
Registered: Nov 26, 2005
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Three recents with the Oly Art filters, using the Lumix 14/42 lens, in WV.
Harry Palmer



surf monkey
Registered: May 24, 2005
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surf monkey wrote:
So have most OM-D users upgraded from the 20f1.7 to the 25f1.4?

The 20f1.7 seemed to be first good prime, so I assume their were many early MFT users.
Now I see so many photos on this thread using the 25f1.4.
Is it that much better? Is it the DOF, AF speed, bokeh?

Makten wrote:
I did, but recently got the 20/1.7 again for its nicer AOV and smaller size.
Everything is a little bit better with the 25/1.4, so overall it's preferable. But it's much larger, especially with the hood on, and of course narrower.
The worst thing with the 20 is the terribly slow and inaccurate AF. Sometimes it just hunts for five seconds without finding anyting, even in good light.


Thanks Makten,
That's the kind of info I'm looking for. I typically like the 35/40 mm focal length (35mm equivalent) better for "general" use, but I might try the 25. I just a beginner with the OM-D and 20/1.7, so I'm just starting to notice the AF issues with the 20.
I've also noticed that it doesn't like shooting toward the sun.



cputeq
Registered: Jun 25, 2008
Total Posts: 4724
Country: United States

I could see owning both, really - the 20 is a nice FOV and pocketable, the 25 is faster in aperture and AF, and they seem to render a bit differently.

Two from the 7.5mm Rok, then a "toned" photo (which is really just flare across a Minolta 58 1.4) then the Pany 100-300


Leaf in world by J L Smith, on Flickr


MonoForest by J L Smith, on Flickr


Auto_Toned by J L Smith, on Flickr


Leaf by J L Smith, on Flickr



alkanphel
Registered: Jan 31, 2011
Total Posts: 273
Country: Singapore

Monochrome conversion, shot with the PL25


Head by alkanphel, on Flickr



michael49
Registered: Jun 09, 2006
Total Posts: 5452
Country: United States

Makten wrote:
surf monkey wrote:
So have most OM-D users upgraded from the 20f1.7 to the 25f1.4?


I did, but recently got the 20/1.7 again for its nicer AOV and smaller size.

The 20f1.7 seemed to be first good prime, so I assume their were many early MFT users.
Now I see so many photos on this thread using the 25f1.4.
Is it that much better? Is it the DOF, AF speed, bokeh?


Everything is a little bit better with the 25/1.4, so overall it's preferable. But it's much larger, especially with the hood on, and of course narrower.
The worst thing with the 20 is the terribly slow and inaccurate AF. Sometimes it just hunts for five seconds without finding anyting, even in good light.


I'm always surprised to hear people complain about the 20's AF - I've never had an issue with it. I often take shots like this hiking at large apertures and a large majority are in focus......

F/2...







michael49
Registered: Jun 09, 2006
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juju1958 wrote:
many outstanding images yet again from everyone. Out trying different things toaday. often it can be a good idea to post even if you are not convinced. Next time you look in on them there can sometimes be a bit more clarity as to what you have posted. Good or not so good.
kr


Love the first one especially.



michael49
Registered: Jun 09, 2006
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cputeq wrote:


Two from the 7.5mm Rok, then a "toned" photo (which is really just flare across a Minolta 58 1.4) then the Pany 100-300



I keep thinking about picking up the 7.5 Rok- would love to see more.



michael49
Registered: Jun 09, 2006
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A few from a hike yesterday....

45 1.8...












20 1.7...






14 2.5..
(these old stone walls are ubiquitous in rural New England and often seem to wind on endlessly in the middle of nowhere)....






I was impressed at the ability of the 14 to focus on the branches in the foreground here....






25 1.4....












cputeq
Registered: Jun 25, 2008
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michael49 wrote:
cputeq wrote:


Two from the 7.5mm Rok, then a "toned" photo (which is really just flare across a Minolta 58 1.4) then the Pany 100-300



I keep thinking about picking up the 7.5 Rok- would love to see more.



I highly recommend it. Great lens, small, easy to correct if you really want to (I use Fisheye Hemi's "cropped" profile in Photoshop, which doesn't make it architecturally good but can defish it a lot.. but you can get away with the Sigma 10mm FE profile in LR4 if you want to correct it there). I typically don't correct it.

My thought was at $300-ish having a small, UWA is a no-brainer, even if it's not AF. If I really don't want the FE look it's pretty easy to get rid of (unless again you're shooting for perfectly straight lines).

(some of these might be reposts!) All with the Rok 7.5mm


Kids in Vicksburg War Museum by J L Smith, on Flickr

^The monument is circular, so this shot is uncorrected. The white disk at the top is the very top of the open roof


Columns in Vicksburg by J L Smith, on Flickr

^That shot is corrected via Fisheye Hemi.



Lot of ocean by J L Smith, on Flickr

^ I had to clone my shadow out of this shot - massive FOV with the lens.


P1020092 by J L Smith, on Flickr

^Cropped a bit from the left for composition.


I'll be moving to Albuquerque NM this coming Feb, so hopefully I'll be able to put it to much more use in the landscape department.



juju1958
Registered: Apr 27, 2009
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Country: United Kingdom

Interesting lens the Roker .I can imagine having a lot of fun with it.

.



michael49
Registered: Jun 09, 2006
Total Posts: 5452
Country: United States

cputeq wrote:
....
I highly recommend it. Great lens, small, easy to correct if you really want to (I use Fisheye Hemi's "cropped" profile in Photoshop, which doesn't make it architecturally good but can defish it a lot.. but you can get away with the Sigma 10mm FE profile in LR4 if you want to correct it there). I typically don't correct it.....


Thanks, I think you sold me on it. I've got the Pany 14 2.5 and for wider shots I often shoot pano's, but having a FE would be fun for travel.



Wilbus
Registered: Feb 18, 2012
Total Posts: 318
Country: Sweden

RKTodd I too have the rattlesnake noise with the PL 25, it's an annoyance at the most. I have never seen it affect a photo or the performance of the lens.
If it acts up while I am not shooting or in a hurry I turn the camera off and on and it seems to settle down for a while.

The lens is amazing in every other way.

Second shot is great JUJU, love the all black water!



FlyPenFly
Registered: Feb 14, 2011
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Juju, what is your post processing technique?



rji2goleez
Registered: Jun 24, 2003
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Beautiful set Julian!



RKTodd
Registered: Oct 24, 2008
Total Posts: 260
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Wilbus wrote:
RKTodd I too have the rattlesnake noise with the PL 25, it's an annoyance at the most. I have never seen it affect a photo or the performance of the lens.
If it acts up while I am not shooting or in a hurry I turn the camera off and on and it seems to settle down for a while.

The lens is amazing in every other way.

Second shot is great JUJU, love the all black water!


Thanks for the feedback on the noise. I plan to place an order for that lens this week. I have the 45 1.8 coming on Wednesday--can't wait to play!

Love the dog photos with the 45!



kewlcanon
Registered: Mar 28, 2009
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Turn off the Fulltime-AF option to avoid rattlesnake on PL 25.



anthonysemone
Registered: Mar 08, 2008
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rji,

what wonderful pictures of a couple of beautiful buddies



rji2goleez
Registered: Jun 24, 2003
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anthonysemone wrote:
rji,

what wonderful pictures of a couple of beautiful buddies


Thanks Anthony!



cputeq
Registered: Jun 25, 2008
Total Posts: 4724
Country: United States

kewlcanon wrote:
Turn off the Fulltime-AF option to avoid rattlesnake on PL 25.

That may help but it doesn't completely alleviate it. I have had that option disabled since day one of my OMD but I still occasionally get rattlesnake.



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