Fujifilm X-mount Image Thread
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justruss
Registered: Jul 05, 2004
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Jman13 wrote:
I like the image, but the plane doesn't add to the image, it detracts. I'd clone it out, personally. With just the person and great sunset, you've got a fantastic composition.


I'm not sure I agree entirely, but there's no doubt the plane draws the eye, and alters the image and meaning. Whether that is good or bad depends on the i) the viewer, and ii) the intended story the image is telling.

But I find myself of a totally different opinion regarding cloning-- I'm against it.

There's obviously no right/wrong on the subject, but my personal feeling is that if an image is shot in a documentary style-- and to me, this surely is--we're better off following the general photojournalistic ideas of of publishing without cloning things out, or making other alterations that dramatically change the meaning/reality of a shot.

If the shot is for commercial purposes, or intended as photo-illustration, clone away, I guess.

But I tend to feel cheated even when I see a beautiful/surreal image hanging on a wall, or in a calendar... only to find out that this small feature was cloned out, an extra cloud is layered in, or the water selectively shifted to a different hue. Yeah, it's all a grey area-- almost all of us tweak exposure, contrast, even curves. But in my mind the second something is cloned out (other than a dust spot), I think we lose something.

Disclosure: I shoot photojournalistic work, so I'm biased. But even as a child I was always let down by the promise/delivery of things like travel brochures hawking manufactured/unrealistic scenes.

Re Brody and X100s: It's obviously not my decision, but my gut feeling is to keep this thread to interchangeable lens XTrans cameras. For a couple reasons. There's something special about all the X100-bodies posting in their own thread (which already exists), since the gear itself is very unified, with almost purely the same focal length for every image. And likewise, there's something nice about the diversity of images and focal lengths here. Given how many more x100 style bodies I imagine there are compared to the XPro/XE bodies, I'd be afraid our thread might get diluted, and theirs might lose its special potency.

And perhaps this might sound photographically elitest, but I suspect the X100 users as a whole (not all, obviously you're a perfect example of the opposite) are using their cameras more like snapshot shooters. This thread has such a high quality ratio, and such well-thought out images from so many folks. And it's already quite popular/quick moving. I'm not sure we'd gain a whole lot by adding even more users of a slightly different body style... and we might in fact lose something. I personally like looking at both the X100/X100s thread and this one separately.



Jman13
Registered: May 02, 2005
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justruss wrote:

But I find myself of a totally different opinion regarding cloning-- I'm against it.

There's obviously no right/wrong on the subject, but my personal feeling is that if an image is shot in a documentary style-- and to me, this surely is--we're better off following the general photojournalistic ideas of of publishing without cloning things out, or making other alterations that dramatically change the meaning/reality of a shot.


I agree that you shouldn't manipulate the scene for photojournalism, and I follow that when shooting a documentary scene. There your job is to give a visual representation of 'truth' and you violate that when you alter the scene. However, in this case I believe, (and in my own work), the purpose is usually art. At least for me, if you're after an artistic vision, I don't care how you arrive there...it's all about the final image and what you want to say. We alter reality as photographers simply by what we choose to frame and our choice of lens or depth of field.

Ultimately, of course, it's up to the individual photographer, though.



justruss
Registered: Jul 05, 2004
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Jman13 wrote:
We alter reality as photographers simply by what we choose to frame and our choice of lens or depth of field.


I agree with this 100%. I think the altering vs. not in non-PJ work is more a matter of taste/opinion/choice... so we're on the same page with that!

Back to topic (soon!).



Jman13
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We can definitely agree it's a good image, I think!



veeresh.ai
Registered: Oct 09, 2010
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Fuji Colors:



ceder
Registered: May 13, 2011
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I think we will keep this thread for interchangeable lens X-cameras.

Fuji X100, and X100s, I believe, already has a dedicated thread, and although I generally think it is a bit silly to have threads based on gear (it really should be landscape or street etc etc), it can be informative for potential buyers etc. Isn't that what this site is about?
So please include lens and camera settings when posting!

And sorry for not posting much - but here is "The passenger":

Fuji X-Pro1 with 18mm @f2 & 1/1000s. Out of cam Jpg, colors and exposure edited in LR4.4 (I find the jpg easier to color edit compared to the Raw in LR...).







Jman13
Registered: May 02, 2005
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What's with the giant color line? Almost looks like a shutter failure, but I'm guessing you added that in post.....Not sure I get it.



Joseph Marney
Registered: Jan 11, 2002
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It appears that it was shot out of a half opened tinted window - am I correct?



ceder
Registered: May 13, 2011
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Spot on Joseph!



ceder
Registered: May 13, 2011
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My favourite gas station:






X-Pro1, 18mm @f11


corposant
Registered: Jul 14, 2010
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it's like art school all over again!



Jman13
Registered: May 02, 2005
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Bokeh Bubbles!







Jman13
Registered: May 02, 2005
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Broke out my FD 50-300mm f/4.5L to try a few very long range candids. This is at 300mm wide open. This lens performs very well on m4/3, and it looks like it'll be awesome on APS-C as well. It's too bad it weighs a metric ton.







KatieInTexas
Registered: Jan 27, 2011
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ceder wrote:
My favourite gas station:






X-Pro1, 18mm @f11


ssnap
Registered: Feb 14, 2005
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Last night was a lazy night.


DSCF8188 by snappshotk1000, on Flickr

My Great Grandmother turned 104!


DSCF8171 by snappshotk1000, on Flickr



Kaustubh
Registered: Apr 30, 2012
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Some shots with Leitz 90mm f2 and XP-1. This is the closes I could get to 135 L focal length and IQ.



Jman13
Registered: May 02, 2005
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Do you have any pictures of the 90/2 on your XP1? I'm using the Rokinon 85mm f/1.4, which is actually really good on my X-E1. Pretty sharp wide open and beautiful bokeh, so it gives a great feel and has DOF similar to a 135/2 on FF, so it's great for the (relatively few) times I want that shallow, but it is rather large for such a small camera. The 90/2 could be a good compromise in size and speed (and likely with better image quality), though I don't think I'd like to spend that much.

I am, however, considering re-purchasing another Zeiss 85/2.8 Sonnar. One of my favorite lenses of all time...it pained me to sell it a few years ago.



jonrock
Registered: Jan 03, 2012
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Jman13 wrote:
I am, however, considering re-purchasing another Zeiss 85/2.8 Sonnar. One of my favorite lenses of all time...it pained me to sell it a few years ago.


How about a Contax G 90mm f2.8? I've seen pretty decent results from the lens floating around the NEX images thread. It seems to be a decent lens though I wish it was a stop faster and had a real focus ring.



nicolab
Registered: Oct 20, 2012
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Great set. I especially like the one with the bicycle. Where were these shot?

http://maps.google.com/maps?q=lazise+garda+google+maps&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=X&ei=CCo3UcCXCaSm4ASagoGwBQ&ved=0CAsQ_AUoAg







would love to see how performs the 23/1.4, probably I'll trade my 35 for the 23 as I like so much 35FF view.


crazeazn
Registered: Jul 16, 2005
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the zeiss facebook page had a xpro 1 had a zeiss 32 1,8 mounted on it. looked hawt.



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