Canon 17mm f/4L TS-E Custom Filter Adapter
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sivaveera
Registered: Jun 30, 2004
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Country: United States

Follow Up:
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I received my Century 82mm wide angle adapter. It came in a Lee box just like Lee Foundation 82mm wide angle Adapter



Roland W
Registered: Apr 23, 2004
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Country: United States

The Century version of the Lee filter holder has guides on it for the Schneider and other glass 100mm wide filters, which are 4mm thick. Most still photographers use the resin filters that are 2mm thick. If you got a Century holder, you may want to buy some filter side guides that are made for 2mm filters, and replace the 4mm guides. Lee dealers sell those, and sometimes they are in a better stock situation than some of the other Lee items.



Roland W
Registered: Apr 23, 2004
Total Posts: 2268
Country: United States

The detail photos in the above blog post show that the inner ring of the Lee filter adapter was not removed as part of the process to build the special "Lens Cap Filter Adapter". That does limit the field of view some, and the removal is much easier before you build the completed assembly. If you look in this thread starting on the first page you can see discussion of this, and follow the process that was used. For any more professional place like this machine shop that is doing this work it would be best if they could also do that removal.



Yakim Peled
Registered: Nov 18, 2004
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Country: Israel

I wonder why Lee hasn't made a filter holder for this lens. Could the shift capability be that much of a problem?

Happy shooting,
Yakim.



John Mills
Registered: Aug 23, 2007
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Country: Australia

I sent a message to Lee Filters today about whether they were looking at releasing a filter system for the TSE 17mm lens...some promising feedback from Graham Merritt of their Tech Sales division.

Hi John,

The SW150 system has been incredibly popular for the Nikon 14-24mm lens. Because of this, manufacturing capacity has been at maximum simply fulfilling orders for this one fitting. As the back order list has reduced, we are now looking at adapting this system for other lenses and the TSE 17mm is the first of these. We are at the prototype stage now, but have done no camera tests, so it is still early days.

All we can do is respond to customer requests and aside from the Nikon zoom, the Canon 17mm is by far the most requested alternative, so it makes sense to look at this one first. Other lenses will be considered as capacity allows and as demand dictates. I hope this explains the situation,

With regards, Graham Merritt - Tech Sales - LEE Filters.



Fred Miranda
Registered: Dec 31, 2001
Total Posts: 22191
Country: United States

John Mills wrote:
I sent a message to Lee Filters today about whether they were looking at releasing a filter system for the TSE 17mm lens...some promising feedback from Graham Merritt of their Tech Sales division.

Hi John,

The SW150 system has been incredibly popular for the Nikon 14-24mm lens. Because of this, manufacturing capacity has been at maximum simply fulfilling orders for this one fitting. As the back order list has reduced, we are now looking at adapting this system for other lenses and the TSE 17mm is the first of these. We are at the prototype stage now, but have done no camera tests, so it is still early days.

All we can do is respond to customer requests and aside from the Nikon zoom, the Canon 17mm is by far the most requested alternative, so it makes sense to look at this one first. Other lenses will be considered as capacity allows and as demand dictates. I hope this explains the situation,

With regards, Graham Merritt - Tech Sales - LEE Filters.


If they produce a filter that allows full shift, I'm afraid it will be huge! I'm very excited to see this prototype. I will contact them.
Best,
Fred



Roland W
Registered: Apr 23, 2004
Total Posts: 2268
Country: United States

The current Lee SW-150 filter holder system made for the Nikon wide zoom accepts 150mm wide by 170 mm tall graduated ND filters which they sell for it. I would guess that Lee will stay with that filter size for any special filter adapter for the Canon 17mm TS-E lens, even if it does not quite cover all shift extreams. But it is bound to be a lot better than using a 100mm wide filter.



Jonathan Huynh
Registered: May 01, 2003
Total Posts: 10682
Country: United States

Thank Fred .
I finished my new filter holder using the Canon TS-E 17 cap and Lee 82mm filter adaptor WA
I was follow the process you post step by step images.
The filter holder fits and work perfectly , it look like made by Canon Factory.
I am very happy with the outcome.
Here are some quick pictures.



pcho
Registered: Dec 25, 2002
Total Posts: 1966
Country: Australia

Hi Fred,

Thanks so much for posting this modification. Ended costing me quite a bit as I had to retool. Dremel tool, little saw bits, clamps etc but is was worth it and also a challenge for me to do it and I did.

Perry

Some photos from my weekend project.

http://www.thepatienteye.com/albums/webforum/lee1.jpg

http://www.thepatienteye.com/albums/webforum/lee2.jpg

http://www.thepatienteye.com/albums/webforum/lee6.jpg



Yakim Peled
Registered: Nov 18, 2004
Total Posts: 16903
Country: Israel

I wish Lee or someone else would introduce something for those of us who are a bit DIY-challenged....

Happy shooting,
Yakim.



pcho
Registered: Dec 25, 2002
Total Posts: 1966
Country: Australia

Yakim Peled wrote:
I wish Lee or someone else would introduce something for those of us who are a bit DIY-challenged....

Happy shooting,
Yakim.


Yakim, I am one of those. Took me longer than I thought but if I can do it, you could. Makes it a very expensive mod especially when I have to purchase everything from scratch.

Perry



Yakim Peled
Registered: Nov 18, 2004
Total Posts: 16903
Country: Israel

I guess I could, but I'd also need to get all these tools... and learn how to use them... Well, I guess I could do that while saving for the 17/4....

Happy shooting,
Yakim.



robert mariani
Registered: May 10, 2009
Total Posts: 133
Country: United States

Shout out to Fredmiranda.com from Lee Filters USA....but bad news for Canon TS-E 17mm owners waiting for a solution from LEE Filters:

"Thank you for your inquiry. Due to technical limitations we are unable to make a holder for this lens. However, Iíve seen some creative homemade solutions on the forums at www.fredmiranda.com < ;http://www.fredmiranda.com>;

Sincerely,

John Adler
LEE Filters USA
(800)576-5055"



ben egbert
Registered: Jan 31, 2005
Total Posts: 12087
Country: United States

I added a page on building this filter holder at my webpage. It is mostly a supplemental to this thread with some clarifications.

I ended up using a Lee Foundation kit rather than the hood which I still have and can use in a pinch. I also have a second copy of the Lee 4x4 polarizer. The first one arrived broken, but B&H replaced it.

Write up.

http://ben-egbert-photo.com/?page_id=195

Images.

http://ben-egbert-photo.com/?page_id=206



JohnC
Registered: Apr 12, 2002
Total Posts: 473
Country: United States

Well thanks to simon (rags n old iron) a Canadian board member I was able to adapt an x-pro filter holder to both my 17 tse and my adapted nikon 14-24 without using glue..

I did try the LeeSW 150 but it was kind of fiddly (you can't use the hard lens cap, they give you a soft cap) and there is all this hardware atttached to it all the time. It also cannot be used on the 17. I also never liked the way the x-pro attaches until I saw this thread. The key to me was the 17 lens cap.

I took the lens cap apart, cut off the part that protudes and then drilled four guide holes for the x-pro attachment screws. I then looked at the leftover cap and saw that it (loosely) fits over the 14-24. So I cut off the front and also drilled four guide holes for attachment. I put some electrical tape around the edge to make for a tighter fit.

Just pointing at a blank wall and using live view the 17 shows vignetting when shifting horizontally but not not vertically until you hit the limits. I don't use the tilt more than a few degrees so I didn't check that. On the 14-24 there is defintely some vignetting at at 14mm.



ragsn_old_iron
Registered: Jan 13, 2011
Total Posts: 128
Country: Canada

Nice work John. I am surprised the other part of the cap worked on the 14-24, that is really good news. Thanks for the update , and finishing the project.



Jeffrey
Registered: Nov 12, 2002
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Country: United States

John, a potential problem with that rig is light coming from behind, through the open slots, and reflecting off the filter into the lens. If you've ever simply hand held a 4x6 filter in front of the 17mm ts-e, you'll know all about those reflections.



JohnC
Registered: Apr 12, 2002
Total Posts: 473
Country: United States

Jeffrey wrote:
John, a potential problem with that rig is light coming from behind, through the open slots, and reflecting off the filter into the lens. If you've ever simply hand held a 4x6 filter in front of the 17mm ts-e, you'll know all about those reflections.


I hope to add some baffles to the back of the lens mounting rings.



dswiger
Registered: Feb 24, 2006
Total Posts: 7935
Country: United States

Hoping I can apply some of the ideas in this thread to a similar solution for a Samyang 14mm.
Someone does make an adapter, but like many here, I prefer the DIY to $$$

Dan



Fred Miranda
Registered: Dec 31, 2001
Total Posts: 22191
Country: United States

Jeffrey wrote:
John, a potential problem with that rig is light coming from behind, through the open slots, and reflecting off the filter into the lens. If you've ever simply hand held a 4x6 filter in front of the 17mm ts-e, you'll know all about those reflections.


That is so true! You gotta close those gaps or you can forget about long exposure shots. Even with the very tight original custom adapter, when shooting exposures of 20 seconds or longer I usually cover the back of it.
Fred



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