Zeiss Lens Photos and Discussion
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Rodluvan
Registered: Sep 01, 2010
Total Posts: 679
Country: Sweden

Oh, and btw, visited the dealer yesterday and had a go at the 15D ZF.2. What a KILLER!

Crazy sharp and contrasty and flare resistance to boot

SOOC


Btw, a question regarding 2/25D, I tried it on as well, ad the focus ring was by far the stiffest I've tried in any ZF lens and the throw very small. Can anyone confirm the stiffness (or was this just a copy issue). If I ever got it it would be for street and such stiffness does not lend itself to candid photog imo (otoh, it's not the optimal lens anyway)



Lieutenant Z
Registered: Nov 21, 2010
Total Posts: 3011
Country: France

100 MP :



Ronny _Olsson
Registered: Jun 24, 2012
Total Posts: 2472
Country: Sweden

Great shot carstenw
Great set Daniel spec 2 and 3 on the previous page
Nice shot Z Is it just Zeiss 85 you have left now? Missing 100MP?



carstenw
Registered: Dec 26, 2005
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Country: Germany

Thanks, Swedish guys



Rodluvan
Registered: Sep 01, 2010
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Country: Sweden

Had a run into some "dolls" today. Colorful style.

85P



and something else



Rodluvan
Registered: Sep 01, 2010
Total Posts: 679
Country: Sweden

Rodluvan wrote:
Btw, a question regarding 2/25D, I tried it on as well, ad the focus ring was by far the stiffest I've tried in any ZF lens and the throw very small. Can anyone confirm the stiffness (or was this just a copy issue)



Anyone?



photoe
Registered: Oct 22, 2010
Total Posts: 46
Country: Germany

Rodluvan wrote:
Rodluvan wrote:
Btw, a question regarding 2/25D, I tried it on as well, ad the focus ring was by far the stiffest I've tried in any ZF lens and the throw very small. Can anyone confirm the stiffness (or was this just a copy issue)



Anyone?


My 2/25 ZE has the same resistance as my 1.4/35 ZE or 2/100 ZE. Other ones have less, that makes me wonder if Zeiss is doing it by purpose.



wfrank
Registered: Feb 09, 2011
Total Posts: 2968
Country: Sweden

Stiffness may go away with usage. A brand new shouldnt really be stiff I guess, but older lenses sometimes are - and usually loosen up.



Rodluvan
Registered: Sep 01, 2010
Total Posts: 679
Country: Sweden

wfrank wrote:
Stiffness may go away with usage. A brand new shouldnt really be stiff I guess, but older lenses sometimes are - and usually loosen up.


I don't like the idea and can't subscribe to it taking my experience into account with other dslr Zeiss lenses, that they will loosen up upon usage (not considerably, anyway). That would be considered 'wear' imo. Quite the contrary, I'm impressed with how consistent the stiffness has been with all my ZF lenses.

This is however kind of interesting. Perhaps when I get home I'll rank the stiffness of my lenses and make a thread about it and ask you lot to do the same, to see if there is any consistency or if each lens-copy has its own stiffness (which it keeps) regardless of model.

Off the top of my head I do believe my 21P is the 'loosest' followed by perhaps the 50P or 28D.



carstenw
Registered: Dec 26, 2005
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That about matches my experience (21/50P/28D). My 100MP is also super smooth. I haven't tried the 25/2 though.



hijazist
Registered: Sep 14, 2012
Total Posts: 2162
Country: United States

Not a very interesting image but shows what a lens the 21 2.8 is... The squirrel was moving and it was handheld, wide open and focused in a rush... just phenomenal.



Ronny _Olsson
Registered: Jun 24, 2012
Total Posts: 2472
Country: Sweden


Carl Zeiss Distagon T* 2.8/21 ZF 2 by Ronny Olsson, on Flickr

Carl Zeiss Distagon T* 2.8/21 ZF 2 by Ronny Olsson, on Flickr



Ronny _Olsson
Registered: Jun 24, 2012
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Country: Sweden


Carl Zeiss 1.4/85 ZF by Ronny Olsson, on Flickr



Lieutenant Z
Registered: Nov 21, 2010
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Country: France

Like the b/w Ronny.

85P :



Grenache
Registered: Dec 18, 2008
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Ronny, love the lone tree shot.

Briantho, great colors in skyward cherry blossom shot, #2?

Jim



Samuli Vahonen
Registered: Jul 16, 2003
Total Posts: 1595
Country: Finland

Decided to extend my shooting from firm ground to boat this summer. Have tried few times already and I found focusing and composing to be problematic/difficult since boat is never static, always moving or at least rotating. I have Canon 24-70mkI and also tried borrowed 24-70mkII, but didn't like neither (colors, bokeh-DOF-transitions, etc. being all wrong) so there really is no Canon option for me. So I needed other Zeiss solution than "Zeiss ZE lenses + Canon 5DmkII + Live view", which have served me well on firm ground.

I was very close of purchasing SonyNEX-7, but seeing how bad it's autofocus is AND other issues with the camera I decided not to go that route. Also NEX would have meant smaller sensor, which sounded quite scary. Then running out of options decided to try 2nd hand Carl Zeiss Vario-Sonnar T* 2.8/24-70 ZA SSM and Sony Alpha (850). Special thanks for Edward Karaa giving good information about 24-70.

Of course at the first day I got my hands to "new" lens it's raining and terrible overcast weather . However I'm rather pleased to test shoot results, considering the quality of the light. With help of autofocus I can shoot similar kind of images from boat what numbers #7 and #8 represent, really look forward for the weather to clear up.

#1 Carl Zeiss Vario-Sonnar T* 2.8/24-70 @ 70mm, f/4, 1/40s, α850@ISO200


#2 Carl Zeiss Vario-Sonnar T* 2.8/24-70 @ 45mm, f/4, 1/40s, α850@ISO200


#3 Carl Zeiss Vario-Sonnar T* 2.8/24-70 @ 40mm, f/4, 1/40s, α850@ISO200


#4 Carl Zeiss Vario-Sonnar T* 2.8/24-70 @ 35mm, f/4, 1/40s, α850@ISO200


#5 Carl Zeiss Vario-Sonnar T* 2.8/24-70 @ 30mm, f/4, 1/40s, α850@ISO200


#6 Carl Zeiss Vario-Sonnar T* 2.8/24-70 @ 28mm, f/4, 1/60s, α850@ISO200


#7 Carl Zeiss Vario-Sonnar T* 2.8/24-70 @ 40mm, f/4, 1/30s, α850@ISO200


#8 Carl Zeiss Vario-Sonnar T* 2.8/24-70 @ 50mm, f/4, 1/30s, α850@ISO200


#9 Carl Zeiss Vario-Sonnar T* 2.8/24-70 @ 60mm, f/4, 1/50s, α850@ISO400


#10 Carl Zeiss Vario-Sonnar T* 2.8/24-70 @ 40mm, f/4, 1/50s, α850@ISO400


#11 Carl Zeiss Vario-Sonnar T* 2.8/24-70 @ 40mm, f/4, 1/30s, α850@ISO200


#12 Carl Zeiss Vario-Sonnar T* 2.8/24-70 @ 26mm, f/4, 1/30s, α850@ISO200


#13 Carl Zeiss Vario-Sonnar T* 2.8/24-70 @ 24mm, f/4, 1/30s, α850@ISO400


Samuli



Ronny _Olsson
Registered: Jun 24, 2012
Total Posts: 2472
Country: Sweden


Carl Zeiss 1.4/85 ZF by Ronny Olsson, on Flickr

Carl Zeiss 1.4/85 ZF by Ronny Olsson, on Flickr



Ronny _Olsson
Registered: Jun 24, 2012
Total Posts: 2472
Country: Sweden

Looks great Samuli



Mescalamba
Registered: Jul 06, 2011
Total Posts: 3206
Country: Czech Republic

Samuli Vahonen wrote:
Decided to extend my shooting from firm ground to boat this summer. Have tried few times already and I found focusing and composing to be problematic/difficult since boat is never static, always moving or at least rotating. I have Canon 24-70mkI and also tried borrowed 24-70mkII, but didn't like neither (colors, bokeh-DOF-transitions, etc. being all wrong) so there really is no Canon option for me. So I needed other Zeiss solution than "Zeiss ZE lenses + Canon 5DmkII + Live view", which have served me well on firm ground.

I was very close of purchasing SonyNEX-7, but seeing how bad it's autofocus is AND other issues with the camera I decided not to go that route. Also NEX would have meant smaller sensor, which sounded quite scary. Then running out of options decided to try 2nd hand Carl Zeiss Vario-Sonnar T* 2.8/24-70 ZA SSM and Sony Alpha (850). Special thanks for Edward Karaa giving good information about 24-70.

Of course at the first day I got my hands to "new" lens it's raining and terrible overcast weather . However I'm rather pleased to test shoot results, considering the quality of the light. With help of autofocus I can shoot similar kind of images from boat what numbers #7 and #8 represent, really look forward for the weather to clear up.

Samuli


My quick conclusion from your photos. Most Sony shooters with ZA lens dont know how to process photos right. Cause yours look every bit as Zeissy as they should. I was always kinda suspecting its not Sony AA fault, but more in processing.. as your pics show, its exactly like that..

Gonna buy A900 probably..



Samuli Vahonen
Registered: Jul 16, 2003
Total Posts: 1595
Country: Finland

Mescalamba wrote:
My quick conclusion from your photos. Most Sony shooters with ZA lens dont know how to process photos right. Cause yours look every bit as Zeissy as they should. I was always kinda suspecting its not Sony AA fault, but more in processing.. as your pics show, its exactly like that..

Gonna buy A900 probably..

a850/a900 RAWs should not be very hard to process correctly. I didn't do anyhing except reduced exposure (the LCD on camera didn't show photos as bright as they were in computer) and even without doing any camera specific stuff in Apple Aperture I can see that the CFA (Color Filter Array) is better for color separation then the weak ones used in Canons. I don't know (or care) how Lightroom processes Sony files, I would rather use even dcraw.c before using Lightroom and it's hideous RAW processing (just my personal experience, feel free to like it, everyone of us have their own preferences...)..

AA is very strong - hard to say but my feeling is that actual resolution without sharpening might even be less than 5DmkII. Naturally with convolution sharpening more can be extracted as long as ETTR is used. My Topaz trial period ended so I haven't yet tried the sharpening.

If you want to review RAW files before buying a900 let me know and I'll throw few to dropbox.com for you.

Samuli



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