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I really don't know for sure exactly what it is about the Nikon 85mm bokeh that I dislike, but maybe the stronger/more out-of-focus appearance of the Canon 85L at similar apertures is what I ultimately like better. I think it throws backgrounds more out of focus. This could explain why I have often felt like I couldn't get enough background blur from the 85 f/1.8g. Even when I get enough blur, I somehow still don't like the look very much...

I like cat's eyes towards the edges because I believe the relatively smaller size of cat's eyes compared to more circular bokeh in the middle gives a stronger 3-dimensional effect (due probably to the "fisheye" appearance that makes objects look smaller and more squeezed/warped towards the edges to conform around an imaginary sphere). However, in daylit environments and just about every shot I have taken with the 85 f/1.8g, the background blur just doesn't seem to really take advantage of that effect...and the images seem to say "2-dimensional with background blur" more than "3-dimensional" to my eyes.

Something about the way the 85L handles geometric angles and hard lines in a blurred background seems to enhance the effect to me...

I don't think I ever really appreciated the look of 85L images as much as I started to when I began shooting with the 85 f/1.8g.

Examples of 85 f/1.8g images where I don't like the bokeh:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/93827110@N00/4426447770

http://www.flickr.com/photos/93827110@N00/4439500705

http://www.flickr.com/photos/93827110@N00/4439487083

85 f/1.8g bokeh I am neutral to (doesn't highlight something I dislike):

http://www.flickr.com/photos/24256726@N00/5666378909

http://www.flickr.com/photos/18133618@N00/114434720

http://www.pbase.com/image/146982873

http://www.pbase.com/image/144549892

http://www.pbase.com/image/145167657

Canon 85L bokeh I really like:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/phohe/4977357384/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/mrbokeh/4654735852/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/sunsun16/5570824129/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/mrbokeh/5808765744/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/fouquier/5451042765/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/fouquier/7420326130/

I'm not sure what it is.



Jan 02, 2013 at 02:27 AM
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I really don't know for sure exactly what it is about the Nikon 85mm bokeh that I dislike, but maybe the stronger/more out-of-focus appearance of the Canon 85L at similar apertures is what I ultimately like better. I think it throws backgrounds more out of focus. This could explain why I have never felt like I got enough background blur from the 85 f/1.8g.

I like cat's eyes towards the edges because I believe the relatively smaller size of cat's eyes compared to more circular bokeh in the middle gives a stronger 3-dimensional effect (due probably to the "fisheye" appearance that makes objects look smaller and more squeezed/warped towards the edges to conform around an imaginary sphere). However, in daylit environments and just about every shot I have taken with the 85 f/1.8g, the background blur just doesn't seem to really take advantage of that effect...and the images seem to say "2-dimensional with background blur" more than "3-dimensional" to my eyes.

Something about the way the 85L handles geometric angles and hard lines in a blurred background seems to enhance the effect to me...

I don't think I ever really appreciated the look of 85L images as much as I started to when I began shooting with the 85 f/1.8g.



Jan 02, 2013 at 01:55 AM



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