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Re: Frame you own crap!


There is a degree of skill and investment in tools involved. For example a basic Ryobi miter saw costs about $120 and a fine trim blade another $20 or so. With a good saw about the only way you can screw-up is measuring or cutting incorrectly. And you will. But creating a set-up jigs (stop to hold the wood the required distance from the blade) will solve that problem. A $50 electric tacking gun will make assembly easier than manually hammering nails. There are other tools which are helpful for framing such as a gun to fire the diamond shaped glazing points. Do you plan using mats? If so you'll want to factor in the cost of a mat cutter and misc. tools like a large T-square for cutting down the mat board. Minimum you are probably looking at spending $300 to get set-up to do the job easily and precisely but could easily wind up spend twice as much. Is it a good investment? Depends how many frames you plan to do and what else you can do with the tools.

Then there are the variable costs to consider. Trim lumber costs $1.50 and up per ft. and comes in 8ft lengths which result in spoilage. For a 24" x 36" frame you'd need two pieces costing around $24. After the cutting and assembly there's the filling, sanding and painting adding about a dollar per frame to the cost of materials. A matte board would cost about $3, so that's $28 in materials and hour per frame to complete everything if doing a few at a time. Add the amortized the cost of the equipment over 100 frames and the cost per frame for tools and materials is around $31 each. The most expensive component will be your labor. How much is that hour per frame of your time worth?

There are better sources for frames than Walmart. I Googled and found this site with on-line estimating for custom frames and matting: http://www.framesbymail.com/custom/726/Wood I entered similar size specs for 24 x 36 wood frame and mat. The cost? $80 More expensive than DIY if your time is free or only worth $20 per hour, but break-even if you value / bill your time at $50 per hour.

As with most things you can DIY yourself you a paying a premium for the convenience of not having to do the work. If you are selling the framed work it's more a question of what your customers will pay and profit margin.



Jul 17, 2012 at 12:58 PM
cgardner
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Re: Frame you own crap!


There is a degree of skill and investment in tools involved. For example a basic Ryobi miter saw costs about $120 and a fine trim blade another $20 or so. With a good saw about the only way you can screw-up is measuring or cutting incorrectly. And you will. But creating a set-up jigs (stop to hold the wood the required distance from the blade) will solve that problem. A $50 electric tacking gun will make assembly easier than manually hammering nails. There are other tools which are helpful for framing such as a gun to fire the diamond shaped glazing points. Do you plan using mats? If so you'll want to factor in the cost of a mat cutter and misc. tools like a large T-square for cutting down the mat board. Minimum you are probably looking at spending $300 to get set-up to do the job easily and precisely but could easily wind up spend twice as much. Is it a good investment? Depends how many frames you plan to do and what else you can do with the tools.

Then there are the variable costs to consider. Trim lumber costs $1.50 and up per ft. and comes in 8ft lengths which result in spoilage. For a 24" x 36" frame you'd need two pieces costing around $24. After the cutting and assembly there's the filling, sanding and painting adding about a dollar per frame to the cost of materials. A matte board would cost about $3, so that's $28 in materials and hour per frame to complete everything if doing a few at a time. Add the amortized the cost of the equipment over 100 frames and the cost per frame for tools and materials is around $31 each. The most expensive component will be your labor. How much is that hour per frame of your time worth?

There are better sources for frames than Walmart. I Googled and found this site with on-line estimating for custom frames and matting: http://www.framesbymail.com/custom/726/Wood I entered similar size specs for 24 x 36 wood frame and mat. The cost? $80 More expensive than DIY if your time is free or only worth $20 per hour, but break-even if you value / bill your time at $50 per hour. As with most things you can DIY yourself you a paying a premium for the convenience of not having to do the work.




Jul 17, 2012 at 12:52 PM



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