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p.1 #1 · Help Me Build A T/S


That's right. I have a bee in my bonnet, as my wife would call it. I've been studying Bjorn's converted Nikkor 28mm Shift to T/S for some time now. Are any of you up for the challenge? I have a small bellow that is actually a hood that is adjustable from 28mm to 85mm. So far I've mounted a K1 and K2 to the bellows. What would be your next step? I need the bellows to tilt, and I need a lens most likely on a board too mounted on the front of the bellows. Here is a pic of the bellows on my D200:

http://webpages.charter.net/wjlapier/newTS1.jpg

http://webpages.charter.net/wjlapier/newTS2.jpg

The problem with this is that the tilt is stuck in portrait orientation. Adding more tubes would make it so that the orientation can be changed. I'm sure there are other problems to consider, so let me hear about them. BTW, I have the Canon FD 35 T/S converted to F mount, so this is more of an experiment and adventure to see what can be done-and to figure out Bjorn's 28mm T/S. Oh, yes, we don't need to be limited to 28mm. Wider or not is fine.




Nov 19, 2007 at 08:51 PM
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p.1 #2 · Help Me Build A T/S


you will run into problems with infinity focus. that bellows looks huge, it will act like one giant extension tube.


Nov 20, 2007 at 01:04 AM
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p.1 #3 · Help Me Build A T/S


I built one by ordering parts for a Mirex Mamiya T&S adapter. The fact that it came pre-assembled made it even easier. You can't use 35mm camera lenses on it, but the Mamiya 645 (and other brands including Hasselblad with adapters) are of high quality, relatively low price, and they have huge image circles, so you can get a lot more movement with less vignetting.


Nov 20, 2007 at 06:02 AM
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p.1 #4 · Help Me Build A T/S


You might look at Pentacon 6 lenses...they can be found for fairly reasonable prices.


Nov 20, 2007 at 09:13 AM
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p.1 #5 · Help Me Build A T/S


Here you go. Tilt, shift, rise and fall with every lens. You just have to use that film stuff.

[url]http://www.badgergraphic.com/store/cart.php?m=product_detail&p=121[/url]



Nov 20, 2007 at 05:39 PM
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p.1 #6 · Help Me Build A T/S


The problem with this approach is the mirror box of the DSLR.
If you really want to go this route, based on your lens hood, you probably have a 4x5, so there are adapters for the 4x5 available on E-Bay that will let you mount your D200 on the back of the 4x5.
Just search for Nikon 4x5 adapter on ebay and you will find them:
There are two problems with this approach, even a wide 80mm on a 4x5 is still a short tele on the D200 and the mirror cadge tends to get in the way of tilt-shift operations.
A better solution is the Nikon 85mm TS.
If you need to go wider, some 3rd partis will convert a Canon TS to a Nikon mount.
Then if you need to go cheaper, there are the Super-Rotator TS lenses with the Nikon mount. Just search for Super-Rotator to find them.

Robin




Nov 30, 2007 at 07:37 PM
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p.1 #7 · Help Me Build A T/S


Hmmmm. Sorry, but have you thought about Canon? They make 3 TS lenses, as opposed to Nikon's 1, so you'll get a lot more flexibility.

They work with TC's too, so with a 1.4 TC, and all 3 lenses, you get a 24, 45, 90, plus the intermediate sizes with the 1.4 added.



Dec 02, 2007 at 08:30 PM
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p.1 #8 · Help Me Build A T/S


How about Hartblei? There are apparently two possibilities now. The original Hartblei lenses:

http://www.hartblei.com/lenses/general_info.htm

And new, quite expensive, and probably much better ones as a result of their collaboration with Zeiss.

http://www.hartblei.eu/en/pricelist.htm you can get yours here: http://kievcamera.net/ (Ken Rockwell taught me to talk like that)

I have an 80mm Super-Rotator that is fun to play with. And it actually makes a pretty good portrait lens...

http://www.cdplatt.com/joomla/images/Zack2crop%20(Small).jpg


The yellow cast was from the setting sun through the window, not the lens ;-)




Dec 04, 2007 at 08:36 PM
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p.1 #9 · Help Me Build A T/S


As you have a Nikon mount camera, you might want to take a look at the Nikon PB-4 bellows. The PB-4 has tilt and shift built in, for Rise/Fall you have to turn the bellows 90 degrees on the tripod. I forget what focal length lens will limit the infinity focus, but that would be the main disadvantage.

Actually, I'm going to do a similar project when time allows, I receintly aquired a Canon FL mount 19mm lens, took it apart and think I might be able to mount it on the PB-4 in such a way giving it enough backfocus to make a 19mm T/S, or looking into mounting it on a MF to EOS shift adapter, as with the 19mm I will only need shift.

Mostly looking at this as a wide angle shift lens for a 20D, but who knows - I might be able to get a few mm shift out of it on a 5D also!



Dec 05, 2007 at 12:46 PM
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p.1 #10 · Help Me Build A T/S


jamesf99 wrote:
Hmmmm. Sorry, but have you thought about Canon? They make 3 TS lenses, as opposed to Nikon's 1, so you'll get a lot more flexibility.

They work with TC's too, so with a 1.4 TC, and all 3 lenses, you get a 24, 45, 90, plus the intermediate sizes with the 1.4 added.


I don't think you can mount an EF lens on a Nikon body.

This link provides a novel approach as well

http://www.creativepro.com/story/howto/25432.html[/url]



Dec 05, 2007 at 01:25 PM
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p.1 #11 · Help Me Build A T/S


Gero,

That link is the same one that started me down the path that ended up at Hartblei. I was considering taking that approach and KNEW I would never get around to it. So I took the easy (and more expensive) way out.



Dec 05, 2007 at 10:30 PM
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p.1 #12 · Help Me Build A T/S


mrladewig wrote:
Here you go. Tilt, shift, rise and fall with every lens. You just have to use that film stuff.

[url]http://www.badgergraphic.com/store/cart.php?m=product_detail&p=121[/url]

couldn't agree more



Dec 06, 2007 at 03:05 AM
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p.1 #13 · Help Me Build A T/S


Chris_Platt wrote:
Gero,

That link is the same one that started me down the path that ended up at Hartblei. I was considering taking that approach and KNEW I would never get around to it. So I took the easy (and more expensive) way out.


I saw that when I was looking at a Hartblei on B&S, and ended up with the Hartblei 80 2.8 instead Now I want a 45



Dec 06, 2007 at 11:38 AM
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p.1 #14 · Help Me Build A T/S


I got the Super Rotator 45/3.5 in Pentax 645 mount (adapted to EOS). Heck of a piece of engineering. It took me about 10 minutes of fiddling with it to figure all the movements out. Great lens for the price no doubt.


Dec 06, 2007 at 06:58 PM





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