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I thought that might get a bit more attention "Marketing Tips from the best!"

This will be PART 1 Portfolio/Limited Edition Gallery Quality Prints/ Open Edition Prints.

Australia's premier panorama photographer Ken Duncan (See KenDuncan.com / Panographs.com) is one of the very most successful landscape photographers, and very best marketers (the best and most successful as far as I am concerned) in the world.

Last summer I had the great privilege of hanging out with him in his home for a few days (where we became friends and thoroughly discussed marketing, business, and everything) as well as accompany him to The Great Barrier Reef for a week or so to help participate in and help with a five star photography tour, and top notch work shops. It was worth every penny!

I also got to tour Kens office, 2 of his galleries, his lab/printing company, his framing company (he had about 75 employees total) and the funnest thing was simply driving around talking with him. He is one of the most generous men I have ever met!

Here I will share, for the benefit of the group the basic heart and soul of what I learned from that priceless trip. It is very basic information, but has entirely changed my life, and approach to marketing and shooting photography. I have implemented to substantial degrees this information, with, so far, very great success. This year, without marketing very much at all, I have made literally thousands and thousands of dollars. In the next coming years we plan on taking it as far as possible.

So here is the bottom line in English:

(Before the marketing portion I'd like to interject this simple key: Passion! Do whatever you are truly passionate about, and with a lot of hard work (which of course can be fun too) and consistency you'll be successful.)

Marketing:

Before I met Ken I was trying to make $ with my landscape photography anyway I could. Stock, putting my work in coffee shops, and many other things. Ken basically said this "Stop doing all that." "The money is in galleries, period!" He went on to include the "one on one" meetings with folks with our portfolio as foundational, as well as eventually doing exhibitions.

So #1. Simple one on one meetings with folks to show your work is the absolute most important thing. Nothing beats it.

#2. Eventually making enough money to invest in enough supplies to do a (or some) exhibitions. Start small. My first bigger one will be at a very large church in Las Vegas.

#3. Eventually doing quality high end galleries.

I found Ken to believe that almost everything else is a waste of time, and that landscape photographers are massively exploited. When I got home I quit all my exploitations (and wasting all that time pursuing it all) and am now doing two main things.

1. Very exclusive high end Limited Edition Prints.
2. Open Edition prints for those who cannot afford the exclusive stuff.


That is it!!! Quality fine art prints period (that is not to say I won't do books and a few other things one day). The heart and soul is now prints for me, and I am totally happy doing it this way.

How am I getting sales now

A knock out mind bending portfolio. This is the bottom line! This is the absolute foundation of everything that comes next. If you have great work (and many here do!) and you have it presented right, you will be successful. Folks will want it. You will gain a reputation in no time.

So this is what I learned: Nothing beats one on one personal connections with people! No matter how big you get, this will always be the best and most important area to pursue. Keep it simple, and just say "hey, would you like to see my portfolio?" Then simply show your work, no strings attached.

This brings me to the core of it all, your portfolio...

Eventually you have got to invest in a portfolio to die for!!! Ken calls it the "WOW factor"! Nothing beats a portfolio done to the highest level with the absolute best of the best of your work. You want to knock 'em out of their socks and blow their minds. They will throw their wallets at you (loaded with cash) if you do this right.

So how

This is some of what I learned, and have implemented, and have seen a lot of success so far with:

Get the printing standard up to the absolute tops! When Ken saw my portfolio, he said "GREAT work!" "But you need to get your printing standard up, and you need to overhaul your portfolio." I thought to myself "what is he talking about?"

So this is what he insists on:

Big prints, from 18 to 24 inch.

Fuji FLEX Crystal Archive Professional paper, printed off a Durst Lambda at 400ppi.

I'm now using this, and am totally, totally amazed at the quality!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sure it costs me a lot more than other printing I have used, but as far as I am concerned NOTHING can beat it in the world right now! When you knock someone out with one of these babies done impeccably, their mouths drop to the floor, and if they have money, they fork it over fast! Personally, I had to spend about $700-$1000 making 24 inch test prints with the material, and then making adjustments on my side to get it to finally look the best I could. Then I now simply apply those adjustments to other images I send to my lab. Ken uses no other paper for his Limited Editions and believes it is the very best in the world right now. I agree 100%. You have to see it to believe it. Of course I am talking about 400ppi TIFF's perfectly processed for that paper.

Portfolio should have 20-30 total images (30 - if you have a big library of images). Only show the very very best of your work. If you only have 3, then just show the 3!

Each image needs to be separately mounted on mounting board! Kens portfolio is the best I have ever, EVER seen, and I am slowly getting mine up to that standard. He has his images mounted onto hard black (almost plastic like) mounting board (don't know the name right now) then laminated with his own laminate he helped to develop. The images will have about 2 inches of frame around the image (the black board). Then he has black velvet on the backs so that they will not scratch each other when stacked. His world class lab offers this service if you are interested :http://www.createdforlife.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=42&Itemid=64

Separate images as apposed to bound, or on two sides... allows folks to compare freely the individual images they like best.

80-90% of the most common purchasers of photography are WOMEN! And they often buy based on color schemes of the rooms they want to decorate. Keeping your images mounted separately, and not bound to anything allows them to mix and match easily...

Obviously this can cost a lot, but the way you PRESENT your work will have everything to do with how they hit people, and also how much they will shell out for your images! I used to sell my work for $50-$150, now I am getting $400-$1000, and I plan on doubling and tripling (and even more) that in the next year.

This brings me to something he said that struck me: "Don't judge other people by the size of YOUR wallet!" Once he was doing an exhibition at a very nice 5 star hotel and a guy came up to him and asked "how much do you want for the entire collection?" Please realize that Ken seals his work for about $3000 - $60,000 each image! - no joke! (I told you he knows his marketing). Ken laughed, and the guy walked off. Later that night he found out that the guy was one of the richest businessmen in all of Australia, and might not have been joking!

Back to the portfolio. I personally could not afford to do my portfolio at that level immediately, so I used my brain and and did it more cost effective first. Then after substantial sales, I am now able to move up to having them professionally made (I'm doing this very soon) by Ken's lab. What I did was go to a popular art store "Art Media" and get thick black mounting board. I had 30 of them cut to 14X20 (for my 12X18 images). Then I printed my images Costco 12X18's and mounted them with spray mount on to the mounting boards. I did tons of test prints, and re prints untill I had each image totally maximized using the COSTCO system. 12X18's are only $2.99 there. I then put these finished peices into a carrying case. The Fuji FLEX TIFF images printed at 400ppi as mentioned above cost about $100+ for each print at this size! I was not able to afford a $3000+ portfolio at the initial stages of this. But you start with what you CAN do. The when you start making the bucks, you just upgrade and stretch. But the investment is absolutely worth it if you have some nice images! A portfolio done right will have people loading you with money in no time, which in turn will pay for itself quickly.

Lastly it is critical that you frame up one larger, best shot really beautifully as a demo to go along with your portfolio. This is so that when you show your portfolio, people can relate to how these shots will look ideally!!! I will talk more in this issue in Part 2.

This is the end of part1. Feel free to PM me or respond here, and I will get back to this as soon as I can. Please be patient, since I am soooo busy right now!

Thanks.






Edited by mark70x70 on Apr 10, 2007 at 05:48 PM GMT



Apr 08, 2007 at 09:48 PM
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Wow. Thanks for taking the time to make this post; excellent info. Looking forward to part II...


Apr 08, 2007 at 10:36 PM
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With the kind of passion you have, I have no doubts about your success. Good luck..


Apr 08, 2007 at 10:46 PM
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Mark, thanks a lot for sharing this. This info is gold for someone who knows very little about entering the elusive world of professional landscape photography.


Apr 08, 2007 at 11:03 PM
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Wow! Mark I agree 100%. BUT - I live in a city of 75K. There are some limits to the theory related to the size of market. I cannot command the price levels that you can in Vegas or in Los Angeles or Vancouver. A photographer marketing print sales can start in a smaller town and progress to bigger and better things, although he would have to start at a level that is acceptable for his area.
Your comments please Mark.

I do agree that the only way to do it is top notch. I also agree that you can start with the Costco prints and progress as long as you give the impression of being the best.

Thanks again for starting the thread. I look forward to all the info you want to share.
Cheers
Chris



Apr 08, 2007 at 11:10 PM
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Thanks for the post, a lot of great info. You've got some great images on your smugmug link too, by the way.


Apr 08, 2007 at 11:17 PM
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Excellent post Mark! Thanks for sharing all this information and we look forward to the next part!

There are lots of fantastic photographers here who fully deserve to have their images out in the public. The marketing and business information you're sharing will help us all take our photography to the next level.

Thanks again!



Apr 09, 2007 at 12:39 AM
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Thank you, that was woderful read. However, I'm positive that 99% of the information doesn't apply to my country.

I admit I don't visit exhibitions (those 3 in a year...) in a gallery. I saw 2 "exhibitions" in my school, the photos were terrible at best. I think I saw like 3 pictures that were properly processed, others were terrible. Those were made by students that actually study photography. Of course they were "highly intellectual" and "a level above the intelligence level of most of the viewers". Terrible....

I'm struggling to find a top quality lab which makes 11x17 inch prints. I tried the only one that actually offered this size (every other lab offers smaller sizes) and the results were plain ugly. My 5 year old HP printer, that can't even print borderless A4 beats those prints in color reproduction - without the dedicated photo cartridges of course.

Those are only 2 of countless annoyances here. I'm still looking forward to read part 2



Apr 09, 2007 at 01:20 AM
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Mark,

Fantastic information. Thank you for being generous enough to share with all of us. I am sure that this information will be put to good use by more than just one person on this forum. My only question is do you have a good system for getting your portfolio in front of people in the first place. This seems to me like it would be the hardest thing to do when first starting out.

Andy



Apr 09, 2007 at 01:34 AM
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Hello Mark,

Thanks for information. Looking forward to more.

hugh



Apr 09, 2007 at 05:11 AM
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HI Mark,

Thanks for the detailed information about marketing your work. - Jay



Apr 09, 2007 at 06:47 AM
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Hi Mark,

Thanks for sharing this marketing information. I look forward to your other supplements.

Al B



Apr 09, 2007 at 07:21 AM
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Thanks very much, Mark! Valuable info, indeed!

Barry



Apr 09, 2007 at 07:32 AM
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Hey Mark,

Very cool! Everything you said made total sense. Infact much of it were things I had kind of been thinking anyway, so it's nice to see I was atleast thinking in the right direction. I had been thinking that galleries were the way to go, and I appreciate the tips, because I was trying to figure out how to break into that.

I like the idea of only showing the best of the best. Infact I started a few months ago to totally revamp my website with that same idea. It finally had dawned on me that I had so many photo's on my website that I was making it too hard for anyone to choose, because there were too many choices for them to make. So I have already been paring down my photo's to what I think is the best of the best, the ones that have that Wow factor as you said. It is a hard process though, but I started to feel that this would be a case where less is more...

Thanks again, you are a blessing and it is great to have you contributing and sharing with everyone here!

Jim



Apr 09, 2007 at 08:54 AM
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lots of good stuff there mark. i really appreciate you posting this... can't wait for the second installment.


Apr 09, 2007 at 09:44 AM
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Great post Mark. I look forward to hearing more of your conversations with Ken. And by the way, congratulations on your success! You deserve it.


Apr 09, 2007 at 10:16 AM
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Thanks for sharing!
Great Post Mark, very useful info. Can't wait for Part II !
Cheers



Apr 09, 2007 at 11:24 AM
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Holy smokes I did not expect so many emails and PM's!!! Sorry if I don't get to your eamils, PM's, and this thread fast enough. I'll try as best as I can. But I will get to it, I promise.


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cpurves wrote:
Wow! Mark I agree 100%. BUT - I live in a city of 75K. There are some limits to the theory related to the size of market. I cannot command the price levels that you can in Vegas or in Los Angeles or Vancouver. A photographer marketing print sales can start in a smaller town and progress to bigger and better things, although he would have to start at a level that is acceptable for his area.
Your comments please Mark.

I do agree that the only way to do it is top notch. I also agree that you can
...Show more

I agree!

That is one reason we might be moving to Vegas this Fall. Talk about an economy!!! But at the same time, I remember Ken saying over and over "people relate to quality." So a person can do well in many locations, but many will have to move to a best location to take it to the next level.



Apr 09, 2007 at 08:21 PM
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Ariel Bravy wrote:
There are lots of fantastic photographers here who fully deserve to have their images out in the public.


I AGREE TOTALLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The marketing and business information you're sharing will help us all take our photography to the next level.

I hope so!





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