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Dan Martin Offline Image Upload: Off Registered: Sep 07, 2004 Total Posts: 753 Country: Canada 18-55 IS and 55-250 IS EF-S I just heard a rumor that all 18-55mm kit lenses will be image stabilized in the near future and that there's a new EF-S 55-250mm IS on the way. Does anyone have any other information on these lenses? The 55-250 sounds interesting, but I wonder what the aperture will be? Mar 07, 2007 at 07:30 PM

cogitech Online Buy and Sell: On Registered: Apr 20, 2005 Total Posts: 6342 Country: Canada Re: 18-55 IS and 55-250 IS EF-S Dan Martin wrote: The 55-250 sounds interesting, but I wonder what the aperture will be? Likely f3.5-5.6 Mar 07, 2007 at 07:38 PM

byteseller Offline Image Upload: Off Registered: Jun 18, 2003 Total Posts: 1231 Country: United States Re: 18-55 IS and 55-250 IS EF-S Funny I had just posted this in another thread: "BTW - maybe by then Canon will be following Nikon's lead and offer something like their 70-300mm with VR and AF-S (IS and USM in Nikoneese) for a bit less even than the current 70-300mm (Nikon's is in the high $4xxs). Canon, are you listening? ;-)" Then I read about Nikon releasing an even lower end lens with VR --- maybe Canon is listening! or maybe their seeing a future of VR/IS DSLR bodies from everyone but Nikon and themselfves, but with Nikon with offering a slew of affordable IS lenses. That future starts to look VERY lonely for them. Now how about a 70-300mm IS II with USM? Mar 07, 2007 at 07:49 PM

King_of_Canada Offline Image Upload: Off Registered: Feb 27, 2007 Total Posts: 3 Country: Canada Re: 18-55 IS and 55-250 IS EF-S It makes sense to have an 18-55 IS as the kit, because competitors are coming out with IS bodies. I can't wait until tomorrow to find out! Mar 07, 2007 at 08:48 PM

Dan Martin Offline Image Upload: Off Registered: Sep 07, 2004 Total Posts: 753 Country: Canada Re: 18-55 IS and 55-250 IS EF-S I don't think they will be announced at PMA, but at some point in the near future. Mar 07, 2007 at 09:01 PM

formula4speed Offline Image Upload: Off Registered: May 08, 2005 Total Posts: 1046 Country: United States Re: 18-55 IS and 55-250 IS EF-S Canon already gives you the option of getting a kit lens with IS, the 17-85mm. Need an affordable tele with IS? 70-300mm IS is just for you. I can't see these lenses as being anything more than a rumor. Mar 07, 2007 at 09:01 PM

canerino Offline Image Upload: On Registered: May 28, 2005 Total Posts: 4928 Country: United States Re: 18-55 IS and 55-250 IS EF-S formula4speed wrote: Canon already gives you the option of getting a kit lens with IS, the 17-85mm. Need an affordable tele with IS? 70-300mm IS is just for you. I can't see these lenses as being anything more than a rumor. agreed. Mar 07, 2007 at 10:31 PM

UCSB Offline Image Upload: Off Registered: Jan 10, 2006 Total Posts: 2201 Country: United States Re: 18-55 IS and 55-250 IS EF-S Dan Martin wrote: I don't think they will be announced at PMA, but at some point in the near future. Where did you hear the rumor? I am interested in the 55-250mm. Mar 07, 2007 at 10:41 PM

Dan Martin Offline Image Upload: Off Registered: Sep 07, 2004 Total Posts: 753 Country: Canada Re: 18-55 IS and 55-250 IS EF-S The same source I had when I was the first to mention the Rebel XTi here. ;) Mar 07, 2007 at 11:32 PM

UCSB Offline Image Upload: Off Registered: Jan 10, 2006 Total Posts: 2201 Country: United States Re: 18-55 IS and 55-250 IS EF-S I have the 17-55 f/2.8 IS ... I wonder if the 55-250 will be a similar high quality lens or just a consumer lens to match up with the 18-55 kit lens? Mar 08, 2007 at 12:17 AM

khiromu Offline Buy and Sell: On Registered: Jul 21, 2003 Total Posts: 3415 Country: United States Re: 18-55 IS and 55-250 IS EF-S UCSB wrote: I have the 17-55 f/2.8 IS ... I wonder if the 55-250 will be a similar high quality lens or just a consumer lens to match up with the 18-55 kit lens? High quality lens? There are already two 70-200IS lenses. I guess if it ever happens, it would be a consumer grade with silver ring... Mar 08, 2007 at 12:57 AM

python2000 Offline Image Upload: On Registered: Nov 12, 2005 Total Posts: 708 Country: United States Re: 18-55 IS and 55-250 IS EF-S Because the 70-300IS is a pretty nice lens for only $600, and there are very high quality 70-200s out there, it seems unlikely that an EF-S 55-250 would be a big seller unless it distinguished itself in some major way, and was priced right. The two distinguishing features could be f/2.8 and compact size. Both of those features and priced around $1200 with extremely high quality like the 17-55 and 70-200 series. But even then it seems that it would eat away or get eaten by other 70-200 or 70-300 offerings that already have IS. I don't know enough about optics to calculate how compact a 250mm f/2.8 EF-S lens could be. Mar 08, 2007 at 01:02 AM

ghs421 Offline Image Upload: Off Registered: Apr 02, 2006 Total Posts: 108 Country: United States Re: 18-55 IS and 55-250 IS EF-S formula4speed wrote: Canon already gives you the option of getting a kit lens with IS, the 17-85mm. Need an affordable tele with IS? 70-300mm IS is just for you. I can't see these lenses as being anything more than a rumor. Exactly what I was going to say. The 17-85 is nothing more than a kit lens, except it has IS. Mar 08, 2007 at 01:46 AM

ghs421 Offline Image Upload: Off Registered: Apr 02, 2006 Total Posts: 108 Country: United States Re: 18-55 IS and 55-250 IS EF-S formula4speed wrote: Canon already gives you the option of getting a kit lens with IS, the 17-85mm. Need an affordable tele with IS? 70-300mm IS is just for you. I can't see these lenses as being anything more than a rumor. Exactly what I was going to say. The 17-85 is nothing more than a kit lens, except it has IS. Mar 08, 2007 at 01:46 AM

EOS20 Online Image Upload: Off Registered: Mar 06, 2005 Total Posts: 11416 Country: Australia Re: 18-55 IS and 55-250 IS EF-S byteseller wrote: Funny I had just posted this in another thread: "BTW - maybe by then Canon will be following Nikon's lead and offer something like their 70-300mm with VR and AF-S (IS and USM in Nikoneese) for a bit less even than the current 70-300mm (Nikon's is in the high $4xxs). Canon, are you listening? ;-)" Then I read about Nikon releasing an even lower end lens with VR --- maybe Canon is listening! or maybe their seeing a future of VR/IS DSLR bodies from everyone but Nikon and themselfves, but with Nikon with offering a slew of affordable IS lenses. That future starts to look VERY lonely for them. Now how about a 70-300mm IS II with USM? Canon already have a 70-300 IS USM lens: http://www.fredmiranda.com/reviews/showproduct.php?product=294&sort=7&cat=27&page=2 Not to mention the 75-300 IS and 75-300 IS DO lenses: http://www.fredmiranda.com/reviews/showproduct.php?product=16&sort=7&cat=27&page=2 http://www.fredmiranda.com/reviews/showproduct.php?product=218&sort=7&cat=27&page=2 Mar 08, 2007 at 02:52 AM

OldCodger73 Offline Image Upload: Off Registered: May 31, 2005 Total Posts: 312 Country: United States Re: 18-55 IS and 55-250 IS EF-S ghs421 wrote: formula4speed wrote: Canon already gives you the option of getting a kit lens with IS, the 17-85mm. Need an affordable tele with IS? 70-300mm IS is just for you. I can't see these lenses as being anything more than a rumor. Exactly what I was going to say. The 17-85 is nothing more than a kit lens, except it has IS. The 17-85IS can give very good results as long as you're aware of its limitations. While not L or 17-55 IS quality it is a huge step up from the 18-55 kit lens and is the best Canon one-lens solution for a 1.6 crop camera. Mar 08, 2007 at 02:56 AM

Kamil Kisiel Offline Image Upload: Off Registered: Dec 30, 2005 Total Posts: 2124 Country: Canada Re: 18-55 IS and 55-250 IS EF-S I don't see what the purpose of either lens would be. As other posters have pointed out, there's already a lot of similar options in those ranges, unless Canon wants to make an ultra cheap consumer version, in which case I'm not really interested anyway.. Mar 08, 2007 at 02:58 AM

UCSB Offline Image Upload: Off Registered: Jan 10, 2006 Total Posts: 2201 Country: United States Re: 18-55 IS and 55-250 IS EF-S Kamil Kisiel wrote: I don't see what the purpose of either lens would be. As other posters have pointed out, there's already a lot of similar options in those ranges, unless Canon wants to make an ultra cheap consumer version, in which case I'm not really interested anyway.. On a crop camera 70mm is just a to high a starting point. So the 70-200, 70-300 and such are just not that great. The real value of the 70-200mm on FF is its great coverage of the portrait range and for close-ups. You can easily shoot indoors at social gatherings. The 70mm-200mm pretty much fails at this for my usage. If Canon builds a 55-250mm f/2.8 IS, I will order it immediately. It will be extremely useful to me. If it does not materialize, I will try to make do with the 70-200mm f/4 IS. I'm just a little worried about the broad range on the lens ... I hope that they did not sacrifice the quality. Mar 08, 2007 at 04:57 AM

vyanush Offline Image Upload: Off Registered: Dec 07, 2004 Total Posts: 544 Country: Russia Re: 18-55 IS and 55-250 IS EF-S Actually, they are EF-S 17-55 IS and Nikkor DX 55-200 VR (just announce) Mar 08, 2007 at 07:16 AM

Kamil Kisiel Offline Image Upload: Off Registered: Dec 30, 2005 Total Posts: 2124 Country: Canada Re: 18-55 IS and 55-250 IS EF-S UCSB wrote: If Canon builds a 55-250mm f/2.8 IS, I will order it immediately. It will be extremely useful to me. If it does not materialize, I will try to make do with the 70-200mm f/4 IS. I'm just a little worried about the broad range on the lens ... I hope that they did not sacrifice the quality. That's almost a 5x zoom as compared to less than a 3x zoom for the 70-200, AND f/2.8 with VR? And they're not to sacrifice the quality? That's going to be one expensive lens. EF-S does enable some simpler lens designs, but it's no silver bullet... Mar 08, 2007 at 07:21 AM

SpeedyGonzales Offline Image Upload: Off Registered: Sep 05, 2006 Total Posts: 85 Country: Norway Re: 18-55 IS and 55-250 IS EF-S python2000 wrote: Because the 70-300IS is a pretty nice lens for only $600, and there are very high quality 70-200s out there, it seems unlikely that an EF-S 55-250 would be a big seller unless it distinguished itself in some major way, and was priced right. The two distinguishing features could be f/2.8 and compact size. Both of those features and priced around $1200 with extremely high quality like the 17-55 and 70-200 series. But even then it seems that it would eat away or get eaten by other 70-200 or 70-300 offerings that already have IS. I don't know enough about optics to calculate how compact a 250mm f/2.8 EF-S lens could be. That lens would most likely be in 300/2,8 IS territory in terms of size, weight and price, even if it was EF-S. The shorter back-focus and smaller imaging circle has diminishing returns with longer focal lengths. Mar 08, 2007 at 08:14 AM

byteseller Offline Image Upload: Off Registered: Jun 18, 2003 Total Posts: 1231 Country: United States Re: 18-55 IS and 55-250 IS EF-S Regarding: *************************************************** Canon already have a 70-300 IS USM lens: http://www.fredmiranda.com/reviews/showproduct.php?product=294&sort=7&cat=27&page=2 *************************************************** I should have been clearer: I'd like a 70-300mm II IS 4.5/5.6 (not DO) that has: 1. True USM ring focus (this shouldn't be that hard) - nikon does it in their new 70-300mm VR which costs $100 less, for god's sake even the old 28-105mm and 100-300mm EF lenses had ring USM 2. Fulltime manual over-ride on the focus 3. AND/OR a non-rotating front element - This is a huge problem with this lens otherwise fine lens Mar 13, 2007 at 07:28 PM

Lani Kai Offline Image Upload: On Registered: Oct 04, 2005 Total Posts: 667 Country: United States Re: 18-55 IS and 55-250 IS EF-S byteseller wrote: I should have been clearer: I'd like a 70-300mm II IS 4.5/5.6 (not DO) that has: 1. True USM ring focus (this shouldn't be that hard) - nikon does it in their new 70-300mm VR which costs $100 less, for god's sake even the old 28-105mm and 100-300mm EF lenses had ring USM 2. Fulltime manual over-ride on the focus 3. AND/OR a non-rotating front element - This is a huge problem with this lens otherwise fine lens Ring USM alone would address all three of those issues. Mar 14, 2007 at 06:21 AM

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