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p.492 #1 · p.492 #1 · NEX Images Thread


Has anyone tried using 135mm alternatives on the Nex-7? I am thinking in particular of the Minolta MD Tele-Rokkor 135/2.8 and the Leica M Tele-Elmar 135 F4.


Feb 13, 2013 at 03:40 PM
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p.492 #2 · p.492 #2 · NEX Images Thread


Phillip Reeve wrote:
thanks :-)

My PP isn't terribly sophisticated, so i am happy to share it:
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8108/8451862913_6298a28dd0_b.jpg
PP_1 by Phillip Reeve, on Flickr

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8385/8451862999_e188b3b4b5_b.jpg
pp_2 by Phillip Reeve, on Flickr

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8378/8452954246_4b63a735d3_b.jpg
pp_3 by Phillip Reeve, on Flickr

more examples in this flickr-set: http://www.flickr.com/photos/birnenbaumgarten/sets/72157631388994464/with/8452954246/


Beautiful pics. There is no great colour banding here apart, perhaps,for the lowest of the three. Is that a function of the lens or do you use CornerFix or something?


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Feb 13, 2013 at 03:46 PM
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p.492 #3 · p.492 #3 · NEX Images Thread


@lumis, it might also be worthwhile to consider the Sony 20mm pancake will be out in a couple of months. I would be hard pressed to think my sigma 19 could be bested for anything (my copy is stellar), but the 20mm Sony lens is certainly going to be attractive if the optical performance is halfway decent.


Feb 13, 2013 at 03:52 PM
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p.492 #4 · p.492 #4 · NEX Images Thread


waterden wrote:
Beautiful pics. There is no great colour banding here apart, perhaps,for the lowest of the three. Is that a function of the lens or do you use CornerFix or something?

thanks :-).
What exactly do you mean with color banding? I didn't use cornerfix, just a minor devignette.



Feb 13, 2013 at 05:50 PM
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p.492 #5 · p.492 #5 · NEX Images Thread


Colour banding or colour shift refers to the magenta stripes at the sides of images created with many wide and wider angle lenses adapted to fit the Nex cameras. It is a particular problem with the Nex7 and both Cornerfix and Lightroom flat field plug-in are used to address it. It is generally only obvious on high key images such as snow scenes so perhaps it is present on yours but not that pronounced. My question was more to establish whether the VM15 is less prone to this effect than other Leica-M fit wide-angles.

On another subject, the script on your photos which describes your camera/lens combinations is very faint and hard to read. Which is a shame because you use an interesting variety of combinations. Would you mind brightening it up a little?



Feb 13, 2013 at 06:14 PM
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p.492 #6 · p.492 #6 · NEX Images Thread


Since the USSR lens thread is dead again, I'll post here.
Industar 69 & NEX-7






OM 21/3.5 & NEX-7






A quick shot with my Canon LTM 100/3.5 @ NEX-7 @ 70mph on the freeway the day I bought it.











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Feb 13, 2013 at 07:34 PM
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p.492 #7 · p.492 #7 · NEX Images Thread


waterden wrote:
Colour banding or colour shift refers to the magenta stripes at the sides of images created with many wide and wider angle lenses adapted to fit the Nex cameras. It is a particular problem with the Nex7 and both Cornerfix and Lightroom flat field plug-in are used to address it. It is generally only obvious on high key images such as snow scenes so perhaps it is present on yours but not that pronounced. My question was more to establish whether the VM15 is less prone to this effect than other Leica-M fit wide-angles.

Here it is usually called colorshift, banding doesn't make too much sense in my eyes because it is a circular pattern.
The CV15 (CosinaVoigtländer) can shift a little bit on the 5n/6 but you rarely notice it.
One example:


On the Nex 7 it is much more evident though.



Feb 13, 2013 at 07:37 PM
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waterden wrote:
Colour banding or colour shift refers to the magenta stripes at the sides of images created with many wide and wider angle lenses adapted to fit the Nex cameras. It is a particular problem with the Nex7 and both Cornerfix and Lightroom flat field plug-in are used to address it. It is generally only obvious on high key images such as snow scenes so perhaps it is present on yours but not that pronounced. My question was more to establish whether the VM15 is less prone to this effect than other Leica-M fit wide-angles.

On another subject, the script on your
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Colour banding typically refers to noise problems. The phenomenon you are describing is generally referred to as colour shift. The NEX cameras are not known to have any banding of any kind at anything but insane ISO settings.

By the way, the writing for the lens and camera used is *very* clear here. Have you profiled your monitor recently?


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Feb 13, 2013 at 07:38 PM
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p.492 #9 · p.492 #9 · NEX Images Thread


As i do not use a calibrated monitor i am happy if people with calibrated monitors tell me about problems with my pictures, but the script has a brightness value of 72 (were black is 0 and white is 256) so it should be readable.
It is meant to be unobtrusive, so that those who are interested in it can read it and those who are not wouldn't notice it. I used to post even more detailed infos with more obtrusive script (see above) but i found that it was distracting from the image.




Feb 13, 2013 at 07:47 PM
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p.492 #10 · p.492 #10 · NEX Images Thread


Another classic 35er: the Schacht R Travegon 35/3.5 with Exakta-Mount. Nex 7



© Nex Barker 2013


Place where Danube and Isar meet. Near Deggendorf/Bavaria




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p.492 #11 · p.492 #11 · NEX Images Thread


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Derek, I really like those. It reminds me a bit of what I have gotten out of the old 50/1.5 Summarit on the M9. On the NEX-7 it will probably look like mush though wide open. Might be worth trying the CV40/1.4 if you like the 35 Lux look but want to keep the price reasonable. I guess you can never have enough 35/40mm lenses, can you?

50/1 Nocti on NEX-7 - doesn't really show off the Nocti w/o character... but this lens surprised me somewhat by how 'normal' it can behave...


yeah, the SA characteristic reminds me a lot of my jupiter-3, though i think the jupiter produces harsher edges on blur discs and the lux definitely seems to have more resolution under the glow than the jupiter. not sure how your summarit would compare.

is that noctilux shot wide open? that seems like a lot more dof than i'd expect. i feel like the noctilux would probably retain some of it's character for portraits, but not much else on aps-c.

regarding the two cv f/1.4s – i haven't shot with either, but i've never been thrilled with what i've seen from the 35mm. the 40/1.4 on the other hand looks very nice to me, but in every comparison i've seen i prefer the look of my 40 cron over the cv, so i'm in no rush to try the cv.

to be honest i think i actually prefer the look of the 40 cron to the 35 lux too, but i have shoot them next to each other to be sure. i know the cron is sharper and contrastier over most of the frame though and am prettier sure the lux will do better across the frame at infinity. sometime soon i guess i will be doing a zeiss/leica comparison 35/1.4s and 40-45/2s.




Feb 13, 2013 at 08:09 PM
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p.492 #12 · p.492 #12 · NEX Images Thread


The Nocti shot is wide open. It's not mine, and only had the chance to use it during a meet-up photo-walk in an urban setting without any portraiture, so probably not a situation to show off its characteristics in that respect. I was also primarily fixated on using the M9 during that meeting, so really didn't do much with the NEX. A characteristic that is retained on APS-C is some SA wide open, which probably softens focus transition at this distance and closer. BTW, I also found it to be quite sharp wide open at infinity. APS-C definitely crops out the strong corner vignetting and cat's eye blur circles one gets on FF.

I really like what you've been posting over time with the 40 Cron, to the point where I will probably get one, or the Minolta version, if I find one at a good price. It's such a tiny lens with what I find to be interesting character. I think I'd be more inclined to get it over one of the 35 Cron versions.

I mentioned the CV40 because it seems to share some SA qualities of the 35 Lux pre-ASPH, meaning it will render a softer look than the 40 Cron, but the Lux probably has gentler background rendering. The CV also probably isn't as unique as the Olympus 42/1.2. I haven't used the CV35/1.4, but also haven't been that impresed with what I've seen from it. I primarily got the 40/1.4 because of its tendency towards strong/busy blur circles.

The 50/1.5 Summarit I've only used on the M9. Wide open it's quite low in contrast and only has reasonable center sharpness. But my copy has also apparently been 'serviced' and I'm not sure it was put back together with proper optical calibration in mind. I have some shots from it on the Leica M thread: here, and with a CV40 comparision shot, here and here

I think all of those had a fair amount of contrast boost in order to present a fairly normal tonal range. One good thing about its low contrast in full sunlight it will barely blow out highlights wide open at 1/4000 & ISO 160 on the M9. With modern glass I would have to shoot at around f/2.8. This tonal compression seems to work well with the M9's narrower dynamic range. I also see this to some extent with the Nikkor SC 5cm f/1.4.

Here's another 50 Nocti shot wide open where you probably wouldn't have guessed it was at f/1






90 Summarit:












Feb 13, 2013 at 09:12 PM
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p.492 #13 · p.492 #13 · NEX Images Thread


zhangyue wrote:
Derek, Yes, I do. But that 35cron is a very lovely lens. It (8 element) might be most sought after Leica lens now days. I got it accidentally because I love my rigid cron. and they two happened at about same time. The lens is small with high build quality. In the same camera fair, one guy ask $4000 with OBM without google. I have to say it is overrated as well, though it is a very sharp lens leave out the extreme corner. Even at f2, it is decent most of frame. Another great 35mm is Sammron with similar
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yeah, i was looking for a version I 35 cron because of the build before i fell in love with the 40 cron and decided the price difference wasn't worth it. i didn't realize prices had gotten that high. i've always been on the lookout for a cheap summaron, but i'm not willing to spend much on a lens i won't use much (f/2.8 – eek).

the SF meetup never really panned out with everybody's schedule, maybe another attempt would be good. like you most of my weekends are spent with kids. things are further complicated by the fact that my wife usually has to work weird hours on weekends. my free time for photography usually appears at random unpredictable times.



Feb 13, 2013 at 09:52 PM
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p.492 #14 · p.492 #14 · NEX Images Thread


Forgive me if this is stating the obvious, but since you have kids and you like to take pictures of your kids, why not meet up at kid-friendly environment and take pictures of your kids with each others lenses? There are two zoos, countless parks, and I hear there are even beaches where kids are allowed to run freely and burn off some of their energy. Alternately, there's Alcatraz, where you could threaten to leave them should they act-up. Just a thought.


Feb 13, 2013 at 10:21 PM
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p.492 #15 · p.492 #15 · NEX Images Thread


Another attempt for a meetup would be good. I took a shot and failed, so I'll defer to someone else to make it succeed this time!

I think the best chance is for someone *nudge* to step forward to take the lead, privately get one other person to agree with you on a time & place, then publicly announce it for anyone else who wants to join. That way at least it will happen with the original two people, anyone else who shows up are just bonus people



Feb 13, 2013 at 10:29 PM
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p.492 #16 · p.492 #16 · NEX Images Thread


I think i overused the clarity slider on this one:


the cellar of "my mill", i wouldn't have thought that they used such medieval technology 130 years ago, when it was built:


i fear it won't last another 130 years . I only discovered it last spring, it is less than 2 kilometers from were i live.


the millpond:



Feb 13, 2013 at 11:15 PM
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p.492 #17 · p.492 #17 · NEX Images Thread


Phillip - I like the Light in #2.Looks like you have a lot of interesting objects in there to isolate.
-Jim

NEX 7 / Summaron






Feb 13, 2013 at 11:43 PM
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p.492 #18 · p.492 #18 · NEX Images Thread


photoomaha wrote:
Jim, love the feel of your cat image. Has a certain mystery to it. Adam, wow, how sharp is that!!


Thanks, I'm amazed at just how good the 85 Micro is, a seriously under-rated lens compromised solely by its pedestrian speed (f3.5) and a significantly too-short focus throw making accurate focus difficult.



Feb 14, 2013 at 02:11 AM
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p.492 #19 · p.492 #19 · NEX Images Thread


Contax CY 28-85 at 85mm with Canon Metabones Speedbooster on Nex 5n,
somewhere around f5.6 or 8




Feb 14, 2013 at 02:37 AM
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p.492 #20 · p.492 #20 · NEX Images Thread


Inglis - nice shot.Nice to see another Buckeye putting up shots.How do you like the speedbooster?
-Jim



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