p.3 #1 · Future of Mac OS, Apple censorship and Windows 7
Gia.Public wrote:
Do you mean Apple cannot produce hardware that is capable of running flash? Running flash efficently? And so Adobe needs to change flash to support unefficent Apple? Quite interesting. Should we all stop using HD video if my 5year old laptop cannot handle it?
Also, why does Apple care if app that I use drains battery in 1 hour? If i need, let it be 10min, thhat's my decision (and right) to use it or not, Apple should not control that!
If millions of people every month were buying your 5 year old laptop, then perhaps yes, it would. People think Apple is controlling what Adobe does with its software, but that's not really the case. The market is controlling what Adobe does with its software. Apple isn't the first company to design and sell a mobile device that doesn't support Flash. Practically every mobile device doesn't support Flash, but until Apple came along almost no one was using a mobile device to browse the web. And even now, in comparison to the total number of Internet users, very few (less than 5% I think) are using mobile browsers, but developers have put a lot of effort into designing sites that are browsable on mobile platforms for whatever reason (e.g., it is seen as trendy to do so, or their target market is browsing on mobile at high rates, or they think mobile browsing is the way of the future, or for a variety of other reasons).
Apple is trying to control the experience for 99% of its userbase, and there's really nothing wrong with that if the users consent to being controlled, which they implicitly do by purchasing the product. If you don't like that level of control, then don't buy the product. There are plenty of tablet PCs out there that can load pro photo applications, and many more coming.
p.3 #3 · Future of Mac OS, Apple censorship and Windows 7
I recently transitioned to an iMac after 30+ years on a PC. I love the 27" screen and have no issues with the glossy surface. Nice to know the slot I opened up is being filled.
p.3 #4 · Future of Mac OS, Apple censorship and Windows 7
EOSDNG wrote:
Well said: "Win7 makes it harder to justify the Mac any more". Apples laptops are overpriced and they work no longer than Laptops from other manufacturers like HP, Dell, Acer....
Don`t misunderstand me, I was a loyal Apple user for a very long time, but Apple did change. I still believe, that iPhones and iPads are more important to Apple than Macs.
Hi all
just to chip in -I'm on the road a lot and I've found that a Netbook from ACER (Aspire one 521) with the faster CPU in it and un upgraded memory to 2 GB with a faster HDD of 320 GB purchased for around 300 USD works fantastically well for on the road editing -- Photoshop CS5 runs fine on it provided you aren't doing 1000's of pics.
OK for pre press amd other stuff one needs a far more professional computer but running W7 Ultimate - even the 32 Bit version on the Acer netbook works just fine -- and the price of these machines means I could probably BREAK or LOSE 4 OF THESE for the price of a decent macbook.
People have (rightly) criticised Microsoft for YEARS but finally with cheap modern hardware, decent published open interfaces etc Microsoft have ACTUALLY GOT IT RIGHT WITH W7.
Unless you really need to pay over the odds why lock youself into a propretary system where even the USB cables aren't standard.
IMO apple are only interested in their App store and the Iphone / Ipad these days.
I used to be a Windows hater but with W7 I've come to actually like it.
p.3 #5 · Future of Mac OS, Apple censorship and Windows 7
USB cables on a Macbook..yikes!
Bought a Macbook pro a few weeks ago, after being a windows guy for decades. Wanted to see if Iiked the Mac experience.
Fast forward to today. I STILL have not gotten the Macbook to connect to any of my USB Canon cameras including a 1DsMKIII using a 30 foot cable. I have an active usb extension that works perfectly on my three W7 laptops and my two W7 workstations. Nothing on the Macbook.
Consulting with Apple results in a "sorry". maybe load windows.
I've found one company that makes an active usb that says they tested the cable and says it will work. It arrives here tomorrow, so we will see.
Long and short of it, 3- $700 windows laptops work perfectly. 1 - $2200 Macbook does not.
So far I'm just not finding the experience to be a good one.
p.3 #7 · Future of Mac OS, Apple censorship and Windows 7
I shoot tethered with Mac/Canon all the time and never had an issue. It's as easy as plugging the camera into the computer...done! Not sure what the issue would be, what software are you using to shoot?
p.3 #9 · Future of Mac OS, Apple censorship and Windows 7
Ektar25 wrote:
I shoot tethered with Mac/Canon all the time and never had an issue. It's as easy as plugging the camera into the computer...done! Not sure what the issue would be, what software are you using to shoot?
MId 2010 Macbook pro, 15" i7, osx 10.6.
Canon Eos utility. I need 30 feet plus of cable and it simply will not work with anything over a single 2 foot cable and a 6 foot passiave extention.
p.3 #11 · Future of Mac OS, Apple censorship and Windows 7
I love working on Macs. I really do. But I can't ever justify the ownership cost, mostly the initial hardware hit, but then the little software bits to make things really hum. I guess this is why I prefer my Thinkpad and Win7 Pro 64-bit. It's a great combination with an NEC IPS 23" display.
That's sort of off topic since the OP is questioning whether Apple is heading down a consumer path, and leaving the pro's to fend for themselves.
I have a hard time believing that in the future, we can't install a program we get on the "web" like a small utility, etc. I mean, the days of crap software are dwindling. Hard to say if people will adopt something like an app store for mac, where you can ONLY install software through that interface. Then again, I said the same thing about iTunes, and everyone seems to be using that. So who knows what will happen?
I'll stick to my Win7 system for now. It's fast, runs the apps I need with no headaches. I don't get virus's, though some people have worse luck. Glad i had a degree in comp sci, so I know what I'm doing.
p.3 #14 · Future of Mac OS, Apple censorship and Windows 7
One thing Apple sure does a lot better than Windows: marketing. I mean those commercials with John Hodgman were absolutely hilarious.
And yeah they are really good at making a user interface. But at the end of the day I think Macs are more about style. Which is fine if you're carrying around a laptop and need to look cool in public But for processing photos on my desktop, I care more about performance, and I find the price to performance ratio better with Windows (particularly since I build my own computers.)
I think in the long run it will become a little more of a philosophical choice: do you believe that computing is better in a walled garden of manicured content with Apple holding the keys to the gate, or do you prefer a more laissez faire structure, getting applications from an unrestricted and sometimes perilous digital wilderness?
p.3 #15 · Future of Mac OS, Apple censorship and Windows 7
I've used USB extenders (dongles on both ends that convert USB to Cat-5e) at WAAYYYY over 30' with my MacBooks Pro and Air. They're pricey for the good ones, but they work great. They obviously wouldn't work if you need port power, but you don't need that for tethered shooting.
p.3 #16 · Future of Mac OS, Apple censorship and Windows 7
artd wrote:
One thing Apple sure does a lot better than Windows: marketing. I mean those commercials with John Hodgman were absolutely hilarious.
And yeah they are really good at making a user interface. But at the end of the day I think Macs are more about style. Which is fine if you're carrying around a laptop and need to look cool in public But for processing photos on my desktop, I care more about performance, and I find the price to performance ratio better with Windows (particularly since I build my own computers.)
I think in the long run it will become a little more of a philosophical choice: do you believe that computing is better in a walled garden of manicured content with Apple holding the keys to the gate, or do you prefer a more laissez faire structure, getting applications from an unrestricted and sometimes perilous digital wilderness?...Show more →
It seems like the philosophical choice for some individuals is more about style versus substance, because users of Macs roam in the same unrestricted and perilous digital wilderness that Windows users do, except perhaps more stylishly. On the personal computing level there are very few examples of the walled-garden approach. However, Apple's most passionate core of users is still its professional base, so they must have some reason to believe that Apple's performance meets their standards.
p.3 #17 · Future of Mac OS, Apple censorship and Windows 7
Yes I also shoot tethered with my Mac Book Pro with Digital Photo Professional and I've been doing it for years. The only problem I ever had is when the fire wire port went bad on my 1Ds Mark II. I just got this one with the core I7 processor and the big raw files come in so fast it's amazing and I guess it is beautiful but the performance of this thing is second to none and yes I work with lots of pictures in PS and i work on many applications at the same time
every day with no issues.
p.3 #18 · Future of Mac OS, Apple censorship and Windows 7
hugop wrote:
Yes I also shoot tethered with my Mac Book Pro with Digital Photo Professional and I've been doing it for years. The only problem I ever had is when the fire wire port went bad on my 1Ds Mark II. I just got this one with the core I7 processor and the big raw files come in so fast it's amazing and I guess it is beautiful but the performance of this thing is second to none and yes I work with lots of pictures in PS and i work on many applications at the same time
every day with no issues....Show more →
Firewire...not usb....
The only solution for my problem was to return the dual core 15" and purchase the 2011 model. Now everything works as it should, in fact I purchased a second machine, A 13" mbp,
The 2010 version just had problems, which is very suprising,
Usage wise I'm just not finding a huge difference between osx and w7.
p.3 #19 · Future of Mac OS, Apple censorship and Windows 7
I disllked Apple’s design choices going into suseptible materials for its portable devices. Can you imagine a household television remote control made of glass? Mine would’ve been broken and replaced many times over, or, DIY rubber-banded in foam, or ensconced in one of the manufactured products from the massive stylish case protection market that Apple’s susceptible products spawned. I have had aluminum laptops get dented and look like it needed body work, to which a durable plastic, like they used to be made from, would have bounced back in good shape. The glossy screen thing is ridiculous. Makes you have to change your surroundings to accomodate it and it gets tedious in the field, bearing surroundings to which you have no control. Eye fatigue rules the day. But I still use these things as I have for so many years.
The retail store is the best thing to have happened to the company. Before, you would see a small dishevelled Apple Mac section in the PC dominated store, with some computers non-functioning and a limited assortment of peripherals. It was obviously ignored by the workers. At one point, there was a movement afoot in Mac users groups for purposes of visiting local stores to bolster the display shelves and adequately represent what the products were about. Given the proper treatment in current Apple stores, the results are obvious. Crowds rule the day like you have never seen in any PC dominated store of years past. In our area, an Apple store is near a Sony Style store. You can practically hear the crickets at the Sony store.
p.3 #20 · Future of Mac OS, Apple censorship and Windows 7
Savas K wrote:
I disllked Apple’s design choices going into suseptible materials for its portable devices. Can you imagine a household television remote control made of glass? Mine would’ve been broken and replaced many times over, or, DIY rubber-banded in foam, or ensconced in one of the manufactured products from the massive stylish case protection market that Apple’s susceptible products spawned. I have had aluminum laptops get dented and look like it needed body work, to which a durable plastic, like they used to be made from, would have bounced back in good shape. The glossy screen thing is ridiculous. Makes you have to change your surroundings to accomodate it and it gets tedious in the field, bearing surroundings to which you have no control. Eye fatigue rules the day. But I still use these things as I have for so many years. ...Show more →
If you are looking to place blame for Apple's choice of material elements ... you need to look no further than the environmentalist evangelists that held Job's feet to the fire to become "greener" ... glass and aluminum are apparently more Earth friendly when recycled than plastics or other options ...
But for processing photos on my desktop, I care more about performance, and I find the price to performance ratio better with Windows (particularly since I build my own computers.)