I think it's funny how the camera companies pop out these compacts like they were monthly subscriptions, while we have to wait years for updates to DSLRs and decades for lenses. Yeah, I know it's all about economies of scale. But if there's one thing that's stopped me from buying a P&S recently--it's that I know by the time I buy the S95, I'll be lucky to have 6 months before the next version (S96? S95 Mark II? S95.99?) is released with a few more bells and whistles. Well, two things actually: I'd rather spend the $400 toward more L glass. I've had my eye on the 35/1.4L, the MP-E 65mm, and the 85/1.2L II, so every penny counts!
Seems like every time I check DPReview I see Panasonic or Olympus or Canon or Nikon has just released a new P&S in some god-awful color like hot pink, teal, or my favorite--caca brown, with Facebook integration or something equally inane.
wickerprints wrote:
I think it's funny how the camera companies pop out these compacts like they were monthly subscriptions, while we have to wait years for updates to DSLRs and decades for lenses. Yeah, I know it's all about economies of scale. But if there's one thing that's stopped me from buying a P&S recently--it's that I know by the time I buy the S95, I'll be lucky to have 6 months before the next version (S96? S95 Mark II? S95.99?) is released with a few more bells and whistles. Well, two things actually: I'd rather spend the $400 toward more L glass. I've had my eye on the 35/1.4L, the MP-E 65mm, and the 85/1.2L II, so every penny counts!
Seems like every time I check DPReview I see Panasonic or Olympus or Canon or Nikon has just released a new P&S in some god-awful color like hot pink, teal, or my favorite--caca brown, with Facebook integration or something equally inane. ...Show more →
The camera companies can't help it.. All these P&S cameras are extruded. The mfgs pour a bunch of parts (some good, some rotten) into a vat, turn the machine on, and out the other end comes a "camera"... Just like clockwork once it gets going.
I agree that the wait for new DSLRs is ridiculous. 3 years on a 1Ds/5d when technology changes every 3 months makes for a pitiful update schedule. Yet, Canon never fails to use outdated technology even in their new releases. Amazing how a "leading edge" company can do that, but Canon always finds a way to shortchange the customer in every body.
Definitely got my interest if I ever need to replace my old Sony P200 P&S. I wouldn't mind the 28mm wide to have a little more in the long @ 105 than a 24-100 configuration.
wickerprints wrote:
Seems like every time I check DPReview I see Panasonic or Olympus or Canon or Nikon has just released a new P&S in some god-awful color like hot pink, teal, or my favorite-- caca brown, with Facebook integration or something equally inane.
jamesf99 wrote:
The camera companies can't help it.. All these P&S cameras are extruded. The mfgs pour a bunch of parts (some good, some rotten) into a vat, turn the machine on, and out the other end comes a "camera"... Just like clockwork once it gets going.
I agree that the wait for new DSLRs is ridiculous. 3 years on a 1Ds/5d when technology changes every 3 months makes for a pitiful update schedule. Yet, Canon never fails to use outdated technology even in their new releases. Amazing how a "leading edge" company can do that, but Canon always finds a way to shortchange the customer in every body. ...Show more →
See how I primed you on your choice of words? "Extruded," indeed! We're on the same wavelength here.
I've skipped the S90 because of the low res. video, the S95 comes closer and I'm hoping to see a full HD version S100 (something).
With some thought I have come to the conclusion that I like my camera (systems) in two sizes.
Full frame no grip* and small P&S.
I also prefer an all Canon line up as that limits the (software) needed on my systems, keeping everything the same.
With the P&S I'm willing to compromise IQ for the sake of size and price.
Having to invest in another high priced lens system doesn't fit in that equation, since I rather channel those funds into my full frame interests.
A relatively high IQ small P&S like the S90-95 series is just about perfect.
I use my current Ixus a lot for short videos and 720 is getting very interesting, but full HD is even better. That makes the new Ixus 1000HS another interesting P&S candidate. Choice is good. I' love to see what a S-95 followup might bring in terms of HD.
I'd rather not have to compromise the IQ, so I'm still hunting for the perfect P&S camera. The S90 is very good indeed at low ISO but dslr quality it isn't.
The S95 doesn't offer better IQ so I won't be upgrading (video holds no interest for me)
I'm sure there is a gap in the market for a dslr quality P&S.
G. Thomas wrote:
Why would you want 30p? Do you like the home video look as opposed to cinematic?
There’s really nothing “cinematic” about the technologically backward and choppy 24 fps! Movies are “stuck” with this old, old, old standard because decades ago movie film was too slow, requiring slow shutter speed and slow frame rate to cut down on the enormous lighting and film costs. Filmmakers are still stuck with it because majority of the theaters simply cannot afford to replace all those aging film projectors, and studios won’t fund, shooting a movie at two different frame rates.
Give a great cinematographer a 60P or 30P camera and that person will deliver a silky smooth cinematic masterpiece.
The latest consumer camcorders are pushing into 1080 60P displaying on 120Hz TV. So I want my “home movies” to be silky smooth - today's technology, and won’t ever put up with the choppy 24fps - yesterday's standard.
Here's why: " target="_blank" rel="nofollow">30fps vs 24fps YouTube plays 60i video @ 30fps, so this video only represents 30fps vs 24fps. The real difference between 60fps vs 24fps is far more dramatic.
G. Thomas wrote:
Why would you want 30p? Do you like the home video look as opposed to cinematic? I agree with you about the 24mm though.
The "home video look" is typically from 60i video (or 50i for those in PAL land). Few consumer camcorders would record at 30p until only a few years ago. Though, a bigger component of the home video look is poor lighting + high gain noise.
