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Gary Ellis Offline Upload & Sell: Off p.1 #1 · Rock Concert troubles!! I had the great pleasure of being able to shoot the Joe Bonamassa rock/blues concert in San Francisco on Friday, and the double pleasure of being able to use Canon's 200mm f/1.8L lens. The lighting changed drastically, but I was able to get a decent exposure most of the time. My real problem was that I was in the back of the theater, about 100-120' away, most of the time, although at one point I got as close as 75', I think. The resulting images showed quite a bit of noise unless there was a bright white spotlight on the subject. So I had shots with a clear, sharp face, but noisy guitar or pants (where there was no spotlight). Or the shots were noisy b/c of dark colored lighting. My question is what's the best way to brighten, sharpen, and reduce noise so that the images look great? Perhaps the answer is to be much closer next time, in which case, OK. I know it was my first time shooting a rock concert, but I want the images to be great if I'm using a 200/1.8!! Thank you for your help. Gary   Canon EOS-1D Mark II    200 mm    f/3.5    1/500 sec    1600 ISO    0.0 EV     Canon EOS-1D Mark II    200 mm    f/4.0    1/800 sec    1600 ISO    0.0 EV     Canon EOS-1D Mark II    200 mm    f/4.0    1/800 sec    1600 ISO    0.0 EV   Edited on Mar 15, 2010 at 05:59 AM · View previous versions Mar 15, 2010 at 05:33 AM

Gary Ellis Offline Upload & Sell: Off p.1 #2 · Rock Concert troubles!! I tried to upload pics that were large enough for you to see, but I got a message saying that I'd exceeded the 350 KB limit. What am I doing wrong? I'd like to make it as convenient for you to critique/help as possible. If I can't upload larger pics, you could always go to my website: GaryEllisPhotography then click on Concerts then click on Joe Bonamassa at the top of the page. Thanks for your help! Gary Mar 15, 2010 at 05:35 AM

Fred Miranda Offline Dedicated FM Moderator Upload & Sell: On p.1 #3 · Rock Concert troubles!! Your images are close to 50kb right now. They can go up to 400kb. My advice is: Open your photo editing software and re-size your original photo to about 800pixels for the biggest dimension. Then save it as jpeg (compression from 1 to 10, about 7) - This should be great for web viewing. Once you have the new images, edit your first and change the current uploaded pictures to the new ones. Best, Fred Mar 15, 2010 at 05:43 AM

AuntiPode Offline Dedicated FM Upload & Sell: On p.1 #4 · Rock Concert troubles!! What Fred said. Also, you can also save size by eliminating the fancy frames. As a plus, I for one prefer critiquing images without frames. There are add-on program that can help with noise. There are also PS techniques that can help, but without seeing the images at a suitable size of about 800 pixels on the long dimension, it's hard to make suggestions. Mar 15, 2010 at 05:51 AM

Gary Ellis Offline Upload & Sell: Off p.1 #5 · Rock Concert troubles!! OK, the image loading worked once I got the longest dimension down to 650. Thanks, Fred and AuntiPode! Gary Mar 15, 2010 at 06:00 AM

Fred Miranda Offline Dedicated FM Moderator Upload & Sell: On p.1 #6 · Rock Concert troubles!! Great, BTW: The forum frames do not add to the image size. They are added after the fact . It's safe to add any frame to your shots (You can edit your post and add/change them at any time). Cleaning up the noise will decrease the size considerably. I will increase the max size for uploads tomorrow. All the best, Fred Mar 15, 2010 at 06:30 AM

AuntiPode Offline Dedicated FM Upload & Sell: On p.1 #7 · Rock Concert troubles!! Here's the first with PS CS4 Filter>Noise>Reduce Noise applied, followed by Filter>Sharpen>Unsharp Mask with A. 87, R. 1.0 and T. 0 followed by some quick sweeps with the Blur Tool to smooth the grittiness from the background. (I believe the optimum unsharp mask settings ought to vary, depending upon image size.) The other two ought to clean up well with similar treatment. Mar 15, 2010 at 08:55 AM

Gary Ellis Offline Upload & Sell: Off p.1 #8 · Rock Concert troubles!! Very nice--thanks! I'm assuming that this can be turned into an action so that it can be applied to other pics? Do you think the settings would change with different lighting or just image size? I don't want to spend days doing this for my whole album of photos--I think that's what intimidates me most about post-processing. The time it could take. How do you think image size might affect the settings? Thanks, AuntiPode. Mar 15, 2010 at 01:19 PM

AuntiPode Offline Dedicated FM Upload & Sell: On p.1 #9 · Rock Concert troubles!! I have yet to master actions, but presume using the blur tool to smooth the background may not lend itself to an action. You may wish to reserve it for those images for which you can justify the extra time. I suspect for a given ISO and lighting setup a reasonable noise reduction setting could be found. However, my approach to PP is one for individual images rather than volume processing. I'd suggest you pose your question on the Post-processing and Printing Forum. You are more likely to receive good advice there for constructing actions and volume method suggestions. Mar 15, 2010 at 08:46 PM

Gary Ellis Offline Upload & Sell: Off p.1 #10 · Rock Concert troubles!! Thanks very much, AuntiPode! Gary Mar 16, 2010 at 04:25 AM

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