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turf Offline Upload & Sell: Off p.1 #1 · Can this picture be improved? Today the light is terrible for a decent picture. I am new to photography and trying to learn. I will provide a before and after picture, and would like to know if there is maybe a better route I should have taken while trying to improve this. Thanks in advance before (origional) After (using Canon Digital Photo Pro) Mar 14, 2010 at 09:24 PM

Bob Jarman Offline Dedicated FM Upload & Sell: On p.1 #2 · Can this picture be improved? turf, Here is a re-work using CEP filters...if you object I'll pull the post. I'll limit comments to technical aspects. Not sure of the color balance but you could change that to render your visualization. Tonal adjustments, control point to brighten bird, alter saturation etc, sharpening, and changing the WB to get more of a blue sky. Looks like some haloing along leading edge of wing... If you capture raw images, a good bit can be done to recover details, jpgs not so much since the process is inherently destructive (that is the image is degraded with each edit to a jpeg - not the case with raw processing). Depending where you are with your photography, seek out a good reference and practice, practice, practice. In theory most would like to go from camera straight to print, my reality is many omissions and sins can be forgiven in post-processing - except focus and to some extent exposure: OOFs will forever be OOF, if the image fails to record detail from under-exposure, or blows out detail from over-exposure that detail is lost forever. Exif indicates 250mm, f8 @ 1/512, ISO 100, jpeg, I assume handheld - good job on the focus as sometimes uniform backgrounds give cameras fits when focusing. Hope this helps regards, Bob Mar 14, 2010 at 09:46 PM

turf Offline Upload & Sell: Off p.1 #3 · Can this picture be improved? No objections here Bob, thanks for your comments. I knew when I left today that a real good picture was not really a possiblilty. I just picked one out that I thought was the best looking and decided to try and make it look nicer. This is from a Canon T1i and yes handheld. I will continue and see waht the limitations are of the program. Who knows it might turn out real nice at some point. Oh and truthfully I have only gotten back to taking pictures in the last week, and my first experience with anything not 35mm. I took alot of pictures in High School, but that was 22 years or so ago. Mar 14, 2010 at 10:26 PM

AuntiPode Offline Dedicated FM Upload & Sell: On p.1 #4 · Can this picture be improved? You can improve it, especially working from the original. Here's a cropping suggestion with some shadow/highlight, contract, vibrance and color balance tweaks. Mar 14, 2010 at 11:54 PM

turf Offline Upload & Sell: Off p.1 #5 · Can this picture be improved? Thanks Auntie, also good to see others ideas to help me learn a little more what makes a good picture Mar 15, 2010 at 12:33 AM

Bob Jarman Offline Dedicated FM Upload & Sell: On p.1 #6 · Can this picture be improved? turf wrote: No objections here Bob, thanks for your comments. I knew when I left today that a real good picture was not really a possiblilty. I just picked one out that I thought was the best looking and decided to try and make it look nicer. This is from a Canon T1i and yes handheld. I will continue and see waht the limitations are of the program. Who knows it might turn out real nice at some point. Oh and truthfully I have only gotten back to taking pictures in the last week, and my first experience with anything not 35mm. I took alot of pictures in High School, but that was 22 years or so ago. Welcome to digital - I think you will like it. Look forward to your sharing more of your images... Bob Mar 15, 2010 at 01:00 AM

Bernie Online Dedicated FM Upload & Sell: On p.1 #7 · Can this picture be improved? Bob managed to sharpen your shot sufficiently, but probably had to work at it some. Depending on distance, direction, etc. birds in flight (BIF) often require 1/1000 or faster to get tack sharp. The trade offs would be either higher ISO and / or a more open lens. Mar 18, 2010 at 04:09 AM

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