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Ok, so I've held a lot of rings, as I'm sure most of you have over the years of shooting engagements and weddings. I know the feel and weight of them. I had an engagement session with a couple over the weekend and when I did the ring shot something felt off. It was very light, and it just didn't look right especially for the size (2+ carats). Have any of you had that happen? Not that I'm going to say anything to the bride, just found it odd. Photo of the ring is below... it's like the diamond got scratched as well!?!?

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Feb 08, 2010 at 10:50 PM

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p.1 #2 · Fake Ring...?

haha!!! don't air the brother out like that.

Feb 08, 2010 at 10:57 PM

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p.1 #3 · Fake Ring...?

In all seriousness, fake rings are a pretty smart move if the girl is cool with it. Save the money for the photographer if you ask me....

And no, my wife's ring isn't fake.

Feb 08, 2010 at 10:59 PM

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when i first got engaged, i was working with kids with autism and severe/profound disabilities who were quite often aggressive or self-injurious - aka jewelry is a bad idea. hubby was super smart and instead of a solitaire e-ring, bought me a band with the diamonds inset. perfecto. got the "real" one later when i moved into a milder role.

and at our actual wedding, we were living in NC and getting married in MA. his ring wasn't delivered in time so i bought a $12 fake. no one knew

Feb 08, 2010 at 11:09 PM

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Diamonds can scratch. Its not like they are invincible. Diamonds themselves don't really weight that much and the majority of the e-rings weight is going to be from the metal of the setting. Gold is certainly much lighter than platinum, and looking at that setting, it looks like a rather inexpensive white gold 6 prong solitaire. I got a cheap 4 prong, white gold setting for my fiance when I first proposed and we went out later to replace the setting with something she wanted. We went with a platinum semi-halo design. The weight between the two rings was night and day. The platinum band felt like a boat anchor relative to the gold band.

If the ring felt light it was probably because the band was white gold. If the rock looked small, it is probably a steep/deep cut. The diamond doesn't sparkle as much because of this cut and these diamonds are typically significantly discounted due to their poor cut/performance. The steep/deep combination can make for a diamond that physically looks smaller from the top (because it is) and is physically "taller" than a perfectly cut diamond. It may be 2 carets, but it might look like a 1.5 due to its cut/light performance.

Huh, I guess I did learn a thing or two from hanging out on pricescope...

Edit: Do you have any tighter crops of the diamond? It looks cloudy. It could just be dirty as hell though.

Feb 08, 2010 at 11:34 PM

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Some people don't care about how much a ring costs. It's a symbol.

Feb 08, 2010 at 11:38 PM

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p.1 #7 · Fake Ring...?

when my daughter was looking at engagement rings, the jewelry store actually pushed fake diamonds...spend a ton on a designer ring...get the diamond later - that's their new pitch

Feb 09, 2010 at 12:32 AM

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p.1 #8 · Fake Ring...?

my fiance didnt want a real diamond what so ever... lucky me lol...

i like it, and she does too...

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Feb 09, 2010 at 01:08 AM

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p.1 #9 · Fake Ring...?

I don't see the point of a diamond. I don't see the point of platinum. I don't see the point of gold. I don't see the point of jewelry unless you simply like the look of a particular piece. When I was married my wife and I valued what it looked like on her finger as well as allowing her to function at work and play without ever worrying about loosing it ($$$$$).

I do get the point of your post. But like anything, value is where the individual place it. This may not be it. Like T Hoffer says, more money for us

....hopefully

Feb 09, 2010 at 01:29 AM

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Hey, not everybody cares about or even wants a real diamond. My girlfriend, for one thinks they're a total waste of money.

Feb 09, 2010 at 01:43 AM

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p.1 #11 · Fake Ring...?

My wife didn't care about her diamond until she lost her engagement ring before we got married

Heck, she lost the replacement when she was pregnant

Luckily, we found the replacement 2+ years later when we were cleaning out the basement. Don't ask how it got there because I have no idea either.

Feb 09, 2010 at 02:18 AM

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p.1 #12 · Fake Ring...?

Diamonds are an investment not like a car. As soon as you take it out of the store it doesn't lose value.

Feb 09, 2010 at 02:30 AM

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p.1 #13 · Fake Ring...?

Maybe they used a fake because they didn't trust the photog with the REAL one!!!

j/k

Feb 09, 2010 at 02:30 AM

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vws51 wrote:
Hey, not everybody cares about or even wants a real diamond. My girlfriend, for one thinks they're a total waste of money.

But what does your fiancé think?

Feb 09, 2010 at 02:30 AM

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sfr002 wrote:
Diamonds are an investment not like a car. As soon as you take it out of the store it doesn't lose value.

A car however has a practical function, and try selling the ring back to the store (not returning it) you're not going to get 100 percent since they're not going to pay more than wholesale for your diamond. Diamond valuation can also be surprisingly subjective since it's not a commodity like gold or some people's photography. Evaluation can be tougher if a diamond is in a setting, so they have to shave some cost off there as well since styles change.

The artificial ones keep getting better and better, and that's not going to do well for the monopoly that currently serves to artificially control the market.

An engagement ring is of course something more than its constituent components, it is the expression of a bond between two people. The fact that we can all be so mercenary about that symbol really degrades us all.

I mean no offense, you might get lucky with your ring by starting with a great deal and then get even luckier in finding a buyer sometime down the road.

Feb 09, 2010 at 03:29 AM

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rmric0 wrote:
sfr002 wrote:
Diamonds are an investment not like a car. As soon as you take it out of the store it doesn't lose value.

A car however has a practical function, and try selling the ring back to the store (not returning it) you're not going to get 100 percent since they're not going to pay more than wholesale for your diamond. Diamond valuation can also be surprisingly subjective since it's not a commodity like gold or some people's photography. Evaluation can be tougher if a diamond is in a setting, so they have to shave some cost off there as well since styles change.

The artificial ones keep getting better and better, and that's not going to do well for the monopoly that currently serves to artificially control the market.

An engagement ring is of course something more than its constituent components, it is the expression of a bond between two people. The fact that we can all be so mercenary about that symbol really degrades us all.

I mean no offense, you might get lucky with your ring by starting with a great deal and then get even luckier in finding a buyer sometime down the road.

I agree it is a symbol of a lifetime commitment that should last forever like a diamond.

Feb 09, 2010 at 03:45 AM

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sfr002 wrote:
rmric0 wrote:
sfr002 wrote:
Diamonds are an investment not like a car. As soon as you take it out of the store it doesn't lose value.

A car however has a practical function, and try selling the ring back to the store (not returning it) you're not going to get 100 percent since they're not going to pay more than wholesale for your diamond. Diamond valuation can also be surprisingly subjective since it's not a commodity like gold or some people's photography. Evaluation can be tougher if a diamond is in a setting, so they have to shave some cost off there as well since styles change.

The artificial ones keep getting better and better, and that's not going to do well for the monopoly that currently serves to artificially control the market.

An engagement ring is of course something more than its constituent components, it is the expression of a bond between two people. The fact that we can all be so mercenary about that symbol really degrades us all.

I mean no offense, you might get lucky with your ring by starting with a great deal and then get even luckier in finding a buyer sometime down the road.

I agree it is a symbol of a lifetime commitment that should last forever like a diamond.

I recently got engaged and we decide to just get a 1.5k solitaire in a simple setting just like the one pictured. We decided get a larger diamond that she will be satisfied with and wont have to upgrade and can get a different setting for an anniversary or something.

Im sure I will get back what I paid because I had a great jeweler and the ring was appraised for 2500 more than I paid, so I can't complain.

As long as you and your fiance are happy with it and you've got a good jeweler at yoru back then more power to you.

Feb 09, 2010 at 04:02 AM

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I recently got engaged and we decide to just get a 1.5k solitaire in a simple setting just like the one pictured. We decided get a larger diamond that she will be satisfied with and wont have to upgrade and can get a different setting for an anniversary or something.

Im sure I will get back what I paid because I had a great jeweler and the ring was appraised for 2500 more than I paid, so I can't complain.

I feel like all jewelers will appraise the ring they just sold you for more than you paid to make you think you got a good deal. I have yet to hear someone say the diamond appraised for what they paid. Remember the extra appraisal affects what the insurance costs for the diamond.

Feb 09, 2010 at 04:09 AM

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p.1 #19 · Fake Ring...?

You think platinum is heavy, you should feel the weight of the high index glass mounted on my 85mm 1.2 pinky ring. It's hard to carry around, but... it's a symbol. And a great investment.

Feb 09, 2010 at 04:16 AM

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Tommy_D wrote:
Diamonds can scratch. Its not like they are invincible. Diamonds themselves don't really weight that much and the majority of the e-rings weight is going to be from the metal of the setting. Gold is certainly much lighter than platinum, and looking at that setting, it looks like a rather inexpensive white gold 6 prong solitaire. I got a cheap 4 prong, white gold setting for my fiance when I first proposed and we went out later to replace the setting with something she wanted. We went with a platinum semi-halo design. The weight between the two rings was night and day. The platinum band felt like a boat anchor relative to the gold band.

If the ring felt light it was probably because the band was white gold. If the rock looked small, it is probably a steep/deep cut. The diamond doesn't sparkle as much because of this cut and these diamonds are typically significantly discounted due to their poor cut/performance. The steep/deep combination can make for a diamond that physically looks smaller from the top (because it is) and is physically "taller" than a perfectly cut diamond. It may be 2 carets, but it might look like a 1.5 due to its cut/light performance.

Huh, I guess I did learn a thing or two from hanging out on pricescope...

Edit: Do you have any tighter crops of the diamond? It looks cloudy. It could just be dirty as hell though.

"Gold is certainly much lighter than platinum" ?? On which planet is that?

Feb 09, 2010 at 04:25 AM

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Tommy_D wrote:
Diamonds can scratch. Its not like they are invincible. Diamonds themselves don't really weight that much and the majority of the e-rings weight is going to be from the metal of the setting. Gold is certainly much lighter than platinum, and looking at that setting, it looks like a rather inexpensive white gold 6 prong solitaire. I got a cheap 4 prong, white gold setting for my fiance when I first proposed and we went out later to replace the setting with something she wanted. We went with a platinum semi-halo design. The weight between the two rings was night and day. The platinum band felt like a boat anchor relative to the gold band.

If the ring felt light it was probably because the band was white gold. If the rock looked small, it is probably a steep/deep cut.

It is nearly impossible to scratch a diamond, and certainly not realistic to do so with any substance your average person comes into contact with. You'll usually need another diamond to do so.

Furthermore, the difference in density between Au and Pt is ~10%. A far cry from "night and day"; and, certainly not noticeable - or even detectable - with the kinds masses we're talking about.

OP, the 'scratch' is most likely a needle inclusion, or maybe residue left from the diamond scratching another substance.

Feb 09, 2010 at 04:37 AM

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Tommy_D wrote:
Diamonds can scratch. Its not like they are invincible. Diamonds themselves don't really weight that much and the majority of the e-rings weight is going to be from the metal of the setting. Gold is certainly much lighter than platinum, and looking at that setting, it looks like a rather inexpensive white gold 6 prong solitaire. I got a cheap 4 prong, white gold setting for my fiance when I first proposed and we went out later to replace the setting with something she wanted. We went with a platinum semi-halo design. The weight between the two rings was night and day. The platinum band felt like a boat anchor relative to the gold band.

If the ring felt light it was probably because the band was white gold. If the rock looked small, it is probably a steep/deep cut. The diamond doesn't sparkle as much because of this cut and these diamonds are typically significantly discounted due to their poor cut/performance. The steep/deep combination can make for a diamond that physically looks smaller from the top (because it is) and is physically "taller" than a perfectly cut diamond. It may be 2 carets, but it might look like a 1.5 due to its cut/light performance.

Huh, I guess I did learn a thing or two from hanging out on pricescope...

Edit: Do you have any tighter crops of the diamond? It looks cloudy. It could just be dirty as hell though.

marklankton wrote:
"Gold is certainly much lighter than platinum" ?? On which planet is that?

On the planet earth. Platinum jewelry is significantly heavier than gold because it's purer. An identically sized platinum band will weigh about 60% more than the comparable 14K gold. Platinum peices are generally 85-95% pure platinum where 14K (58%) and 18K (75%) gold contain much more alloy.

Also, diamonds generally don't "scratch". They will flake or chip.

Feb 09, 2010 at 04:43 AM

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Patrick Elliott wrote:
Maybe they used a fake because they didn't trust the photog with the REAL one!!!

j/k

, yeah, maybe!

I just thought it was odd and I really don't care, I was just surprised by it.

Feb 09, 2010 at 04:59 AM

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p.1 #24 · Fake Ring...?

The diamonds on the most recent ring shots I did were terrible. Many imperfections. I figured they got much bigger diamonds because the stones were poor quality, and who but the tog with the macro lenses is going to see? As long as it brings them pleasure it's all good.

Feb 09, 2010 at 05:23 AM

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Why spending big bucks on a diamond = love and devotion is beyond me...

Feb 09, 2010 at 04:19 PM


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