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p.3 #1 · Mark IV Firmware 1.0.6 problems

John--G wrote:
fraga wrote:
Chris, I believe all initial cameras were shipped with 104.FIR version, so it's not available for download anywhere.

I don't think 1.0.4 was ever available for download was it?

I'm pretty sure it wasn't.
Historically, canon never provides the initial FW version for download.

Feb 01, 2010 at 07:20 PM

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p.3 #2 · Mark IV Firmware 1.0.6 problems

Can we see pics that you guys shot that show the problem

Feb 01, 2010 at 07:52 PM

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p.3 #3 · Mark IV Firmware 1.0.6 problems

I've deleted mine, although symptoms are quite obvious they are MILES out of focus.....I'm not talking a little soft, it's focussed on the wrong part of the frame, etc I mean WAY OOF!

Feb 01, 2010 at 08:34 PM

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p.3 #4 · Mark IV Firmware 1.0.6 problems

This does not sound good - another technical (and PR) disaster for Canon. Mine is working beautifully so no firmware upgrade for me.

Feb 01, 2010 at 08:57 PM

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p.3 #5 · Mark IV Firmware 1.0.6 problems

I upgraded mine but I really haven't shot anything since... Makes me want to go shoot something lol

Feb 01, 2010 at 08:59 PM

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p.3 #6 · Mark IV Firmware 1.0.6 problems

For what it's worth, I installed the new firmware the day it was released and I notice no difference. Ive only mounted the 24-105 and the 70-200/2.8 and both work just as with the last firmware. I think one way to get to rule out some factors would be to provide all of your custom functions and see if you have selected any variables that could interfere with autofocus tracking or rather with the autofocus tracking mode you think you are using. I understand you may not want to post those settings but it seems pointless to go on in a thread like this without more specific information. Your ability as a photographer is certainoly not in doubt, all anyone has to do is to look at your work, it's superb. I'm thinking that some custom function has been altered and you don't know it. Hope I'm not offending anyone but I just don't have an issue with the new firmware.
Cheers-Chuck

Feb 01, 2010 at 09:09 PM

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p.3 #7 · Mark IV Firmware 1.0.6 problems

I also have been experiencing the same issues... I currently have a mark III and a IIn so i dont believe its user error because I'm very familiar with the 1 Series body.. Got my IV and installed the new firmware right way. Went out with my 500f4 to shoot incoming canada geese like i always do with my other 2 bodies.. I didnt get 1 usable image.. not even 1 close to being in focus.. all were way off. I had plenty of shutter speed and was using a full wimberly and the background is pretty clean.. i was shooting with CF settings pretty much the same as my mark III... I tried again this morning with the sportsshooter CF settings and a 400 f 5.6 prime with the same results... I have now reset my CF funtions to default and will try again tomorrow....

This is very frustrating... I cant understand why a 5000.00 body and an even more expensive lens would be so out of focus...

Feb 01, 2010 at 09:28 PM

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p.3 #8 · Mark IV Firmware 1.0.6 problems

Let us know how it goes.

My CF settings (III for AF) are:-

1 = 0
2 = 0
3 = 0
4 = 0
5 = 0
6 = 1
7 = 0
8 = 1 (also tried 2 which was rubbish)
9 = 0
10 = 0
11 = 1
12 = 0
13 = 2 (only works in one shot anyway)
14 = 1
15 = 0
16 = 1
17 = 0
18 = disable
19 = disable

Feb 01, 2010 at 09:41 PM

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p.3 #9 · Mark IV Firmware 1.0.6 problems

Think I'll take my camera to work tomorrow with my 24-105 and try it out on some passing cars at lunchtime. At least I might be able to determine whether it's purely a problem when used in conjuction with the 500 F4

Feb 01, 2010 at 09:46 PM

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p.3 #10 · Mark IV Firmware 1.0.6 problems

Thats a shame. I have yet to try any flight shots i did install the. new firmware but everything seems fine. sorry to hea.r the bad news

Feb 01, 2010 at 09:53 PM

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p.3 #11 · Mark IV Firmware 1.0.6 problems

I bet that they were the latest stealth eagles that auto focus can't lock on to because of their energy absorbing feathers.

The cameras are fine.

Feb 01, 2010 at 10:07 PM

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p.3 #12 · Mark IV Firmware 1.0.6 problems

chippy_jersey wrote:
Let us know how it goes.

My CF settings (III for AF) are:-

1 = 0
2 = 0
3 = 0
4 = 0
5 = 0
6 = 1
7 = 0
8 = 1 (also tried 2 which was rubbish)
9 = 0
10 = 0
11 = 1
12 = 0
13 = 2 (only works in one shot anyway)
14 = 1
15 = 0
16 = 1
17 = 0
18 = disable
19 = disable

I don't see too much different then my settings except for CF III-2 (AI servo tracking sensitivity). I have mine set between 0 and Slow. I think it's too jumpy in the middle. Other than microadjustment and going from 45 points to 19 (CF III-10), I can't think of much else you can do.
Chuck

Feb 01, 2010 at 10:11 PM

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p.3 #13 · Mark IV Firmware 1.0.6 problems

Interesting I did a quick and dirty try with my 24-105. Used the ring of fire, and focussed using the centre AF point on the coner of a chair at 45 degree angle to the camera, then slowly moved towards it so that the corner moved out towards the edge of the AF oval and kept the shutter button planted at 10fps.

Every shot came out with the corner of the chair in focus, very weird. I'll try a real world test tomorrow, but I think it might just be restricted to the 500mm. Maybe that's just because the DOF is exteremly shallow and accurate AF is essential and is perhaps showing the problem up more than the 24-105?

Feb 01, 2010 at 10:27 PM

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p.3 #14 · Mark IV Firmware 1.0.6 problems

I had installed the new software and it worked fine in AI servo on the lenses that I tried it on, however I did not try it on the 500/4 until I read your post. Worked fine with and without the 1.4x, no MA, however mostly static subjects as there are no birds around today.

Do you have the ability to focus on static subjects in AI servo?

Feb 01, 2010 at 10:28 PM

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p.3 #15 · Mark IV Firmware 1.0.6 problems

yes that was fine:-

Feb 01, 2010 at 11:27 PM

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p.3 #16 · Mark IV Firmware 1.0.6 problems

I also have no problem focusing on static subjects in AI servo,
My C.Fn III settings are:

1 = 0
2 = 0
3 = 0
4 = tried both 0 and 1
5 = 0
6 = 4
7 = 0
8 = 3 also tried 2
9 = 0
10 = 1 also tried 1
11 = 0
12 = 0
13 = 0
14 = 1
15 = 0
16 = 0
17 = 0
18 = disable
19 = disable

Feb 02, 2010 at 12:03 AM

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p.3 #17 · Mark IV Firmware 1.0.6 problems

I'm seeing the same problem -- way front focused in AI servo mode, 24-70. 1.0.4 was OK focus wise, although i had some minor issues with tracking of receding subjects when thay passed behind something large. After installing 1.0.6 it's so far out I wondered if I had chosen a wrong focus point. I hope they can release 1.0.4 somewhere....

Feb 02, 2010 at 02:07 AM

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p.3 #18 · Mark IV Firmware 1.0.6 problems

I am having big problem - > I can't get my mk IV any place I know.....

Feb 02, 2010 at 02:29 AM

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p.3 #19 · Mark IV Firmware 1.0.6 problems

Spider

When you say it didn't work well what exactly do you mean by it didn't work well? Also could you post some examples? Also finally could it be a behavior change in the AF and not a problem.

ugh

Feb 02, 2010 at 02:32 AM

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p.3 #20 · Mark IV Firmware 1.0.6 problems

Haven't used the MK IV with the 500 yet extensively with 1.06, but what I have used it for has worked very well, including Servo stuff.
So for now, and until I do "thorough" testing, no problems here.

Feb 02, 2010 at 03:26 AM

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p.3 #21 · Mark IV Firmware 1.0.6 problems

I've emailed Canon, so i'll keep you posted if I get a response:-

"Hi XXX

I have been given your contact details from a friend, so I hope you don’t mind that I have emailed you directly.

I'm writing following the update to the firmware to my new 1D MkIV to the new version 1.0.6.

I am having issues with regard to the AF servo tracking, although initially this seems to be limited to using with the 500mm F4L. The cameras simply totally fails to track anything moving.

I have carried out tests with my other lenses - 24-105L and 100mm Macro L, and it appears to work fine with these lenses. Servo focussing on static subjects with the 500mmm also appears to be fine.

Is it possible for the previous 1.0.4 firmware to be made available, so that I can see if this will resolve the issue? Alternatively, do you suggest that I return the camera to Park Cameras for a replacement, or directly to Canon as I am a CPS member (UKXXXXXXXRS)?

Any help gratefully received.

Kind regards

Paul "

Feb 02, 2010 at 09:31 AM

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p.3 #22 · Mark IV Firmware 1.0.6 problems

Wonder what the chances of Canon sticking to this part of the terms of conditions of the firmware? Let's hope not!

"THE ENTIRE RISK AS TO THE QUALITY AND PERFORMANCE OF THE SOFTWARE IS WITH YOU. SHOULD THE SOFTWARE PROVE DEFECTIVE, YOU (AND NOT CANON, CANON’S SUBSIDIARIES AND AFFILIATES, THEIR DISTRIBUTORS AND DEALERS) ASSUME THE ENTIRE COST OF ALL NECESSARY SERVICING, REPAIR OR CORRECTION."

Feb 02, 2010 at 11:36 AM

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p.3 #23 · Mark IV Firmware 1.0.6 problems

chippy_jersey wrote:
Wonder what the chances of Canon sticking to this part of the terms of conditions of the firmware? Let's hope not!

"THE ENTIRE RISK AS TO THE QUALITY AND PERFORMANCE OF THE SOFTWARE IS WITH YOU. SHOULD THE SOFTWARE PROVE DEFECTIVE, YOU (AND NOT CANON, CANON’S SUBSIDIARIES AND AFFILIATES, THEIR DISTRIBUTORS AND DEALERS) ASSUME THE ENTIRE COST OF ALL NECESSARY SERVICING, REPAIR OR CORRECTION."

Given the MkIII focus debacle, I'd be amazed if they enforce that clause.

BTW, I still have the original firmware on my MkIV. If someone can tell me if it's possible to extract it, I'd be happy to do that and make it available.

Let me know.

Pierre.

Feb 02, 2010 at 11:44 AM

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p.3 #24 · Mark IV Firmware 1.0.6 problems

Pierre

If you can extract it, I'd happily jump on Joey and come and buy you a pint!

Feb 02, 2010 at 11:57 AM

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p.3 #25 · Mark IV Firmware 1.0.6 problems

I am having big problem - > I can't get my mk IV any place I know.....

Breitling:
Register with nowinstock.net - works like a champ. You will know before most others.
Frank

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