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p.4 #1 · ALERT FYI- Nikon 70-200 VR II problem


LuMax wrote:
I'm beat because I just got back to the USA from Hong Kong, but here is a quick pic of the inside of my new, freshly unboxed lens. The "threads" inside my lens actually look very clean, no problem there. I'm not such a big fan of the loose flakes of "glitter" though. Sorry about the crappy quality of this photo, I'm simply too tired to do a proper light setup tonight. I'll post better photos this weekend when I have more time and am rested.

At this point I am almost certain this lens will be returned, I can get
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Look carefully at some of the other exposed, internal metal rings...in my lens several had silver (somewhat irregular edges) rather than black edges. In looking at their location in relationship to the particulates, I thought that might be the source rather than the pitted threads, which my lens also had.

Steve



Jan 15, 2010 at 09:03 PM
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p.4 #2 · ALERT FYI- Nikon 70-200 VR II problem


Could we get some control photos of other new-ish nano coated lenses from the same type of angle. Say the 24-70?


Jan 15, 2010 at 09:10 PM
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p.4 #3 · ALERT FYI- Nikon 70-200 VR II problem


I've got one of those as well and was planning to do comparison shots from the same angle. This will have to wait until Saturday though.


Jan 15, 2010 at 10:36 PM
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p.4 #4 · ALERT FYI- Nikon 70-200 VR II problem


Jammy Straub wrote:
Could we get some control photos of other new-ish nano coated lenses from the same type of angle. Say the 24-70?


I have ~10 Nikon lenses including two TCs. The lens that is most similar that I have is the 300 f/4, which has had a lot of use, and the inside is pristine. The nano coated 14-24 and 24-70 also are without internal defects or particulates.

Steve



Jan 15, 2010 at 10:37 PM
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p.4 #5 · ALERT FYI- Nikon 70-200 VR II problem


Surely is not the same Nikon of the 70's when Erenhreich was there.

Thank goodness.



Jan 15, 2010 at 10:46 PM
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Jan 16, 2010 at 04:42 PM
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p.4 #7 · ALERT FYI- Nikon 70-200 VR II problem


My 70-200 vr II has the same "dust" on certain parts of the lens but none on the elements. My 14-24 has the same spots-also none on the glass elements. They are more noticeable on the 70-200 because of the magnifying it inherently does internally. Both lenses were like this out of the box and it appears to be embeddng in the material of the lens component. Until nikon issues a formal statement, I'm not worried. A five year warranty and superb images have quelled any concerns.

I should mention that my 70-200 does not have the thread issue that I've seen people post about.

Edited on Jan 16, 2010 at 05:32 PM · View previous versions



Jan 16, 2010 at 05:16 PM
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p.4 #8 · ALERT FYI- Nikon 70-200 VR II problem


On mine if you zoom out to 200 and look at the silver threaded ring inside, it is chipping. Lots of sections of it falling apart. Just like the picture in
http://trick77.com/2010/01/11/thread-issue-with-nikon-nikkor-70-200-2-8-vr-ii/



Jan 16, 2010 at 05:24 PM
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p.4 #9 · ALERT FYI- Nikon 70-200 VR II problem


I sent all of this information to Nikon including higher res images. I'll be certain to let you know when I hear back.


Jan 16, 2010 at 05:38 PM
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p.4 #10 · ALERT FYI- Nikon 70-200 VR II problem


There is nothing wrong with any of your lenses, this has been said here already!
I don't get it.....
These silver particles are not particles of any kind attached to your glass. There's nothing inside!
If Nikon reps are reading these posts I bet they're having a lot of fun.
Do you really think that such huge and respectful company would messed these expensive lenses up to this extend?
Just "load" them with dirt, silver particles, dust or whatever you think it may be?
These "things" you're seeing are just reflections of internal wall coatings - black with some kind of glitter in there. That's Nikon's proprietary coating so they won't tell you what these little things are.
That's all it is! There's presence of it in 24-70mm f/2.8 and 14-24 f/2.8 lenses, just like in case of 70-200mm lens.
They are below the glass on the wall! They reflect the light you use to shine it inside (with a flash light or or something else).
Here are a few samples of 24-70 and 70-200mm lenses I own. (the pic of 70-200mm isn't the best but I can see a million of these little "silver particles" when shine the flash light inside.)
But I have absolutely no problems with any of my pics I take with this lens. I just bought it too, about 3 weeks ago so it is a brand new lens I was about to return thinking it's broken, or I should say Dirty! No it's not. Just look below men.

Nikon 24-70mm f/2.8 Nono
http://www.tatween.com/lucian/DSC_3148.jpg

Nikon 24-70mm f/2.8 Nano
http://www.tatween.com/lucian/DSC_3149.jpg

Nikon 24-70mm f/2.8 Nano
http://www.tatween.com/lucian/DSC_3151.jpg

Nikon 70-200mm f/2.8 VR II Nano
http://www.tatween.com/lucian/DSC_3156_b.jpg


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Jan 16, 2010 at 05:48 PM
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p.4 #11 · ALERT FYI- Nikon 70-200 VR II problem


Because Nikon's 24-70mm f/2.8 lens has this coating right next to the glass element and it's at the top, and not down below deep inside as in case of 70-200mm lens, it's easy to see it!!


Jan 16, 2010 at 05:53 PM
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p.4 #12 · ALERT FYI- Nikon 70-200 VR II problem


oh no recall all the 24-70's next!


Jan 16, 2010 at 06:54 PM
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p.4 #13 · ALERT FYI- Nikon 70-200 VR II problem


I agree with Gregg B.! I found the same reflections in my 70-200 VR 1 also and I used it for five years without a problem with tha quality of my pictures.


Jan 16, 2010 at 10:00 PM
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p.4 #14 · ALERT FYI- Nikon 70-200 VR II problem


Jammy Straub wrote:
You know those may not be loose particles at all and could just be reflective bits in the finish, could be.


Yes, Jammy's right. Calm down folks, all my high end Nikon lenses have the same finish. Life is good, just breathe already.

The sky is falling! The sky is falling!



Jan 16, 2010 at 10:50 PM
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p.4 #15 · ALERT FYI- Nikon 70-200 VR II problem


OK, from now on I'll keep reminding myself that "Glitter is good", "Glitter is good", "Glitter is good!"

On second thought, "glitter is only good when it is on the inside of Nikon lenses and on the outside of strippers".




Jan 16, 2010 at 11:11 PM
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p.4 #16 · ALERT FYI- Nikon 70-200 VR II problem


Someone is working late on a Saturday at Nikon Support, I just heard back.


"Hi,
disregard this part"


I just noticed this statement on the bottom of the reply they sent me:

"Any use, dissemination, distribution, posting on Internet bulletin boards, disclosure or copying of this e-mail or any information contained herein by or to anyone other than the intended recipient(s) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this E-mail in error, please notify the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of this E-mail without reading or saving in any manner."

So to paraphrase what was in the reply from Nikon Support, the "glitter" is OK, just pits in the barrel leftover from manufacturing that appear to be reflective bits of metal. They will not affect lens performance.

Now I just hope it was OK to post their disclaimer on a forum (?)




Jan 16, 2010 at 11:23 PM
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p.4 #17 · ALERT FYI- Nikon 70-200 VR II problem


i took mine back. we went through several others and each had the same issue. one even had a bubble in one element, go figure. anyway, i doubt this flaw will impact photos BUT, if i pay over $2500 for a 70-200 zoom, i really don't want to second guess it--just not my thing. but, hey, if it doesn't effect the pictures then so be it. just seems lame and my guess is they modify their manufacturing to take care of it over the next six months or so. they probably really were cranking to get it out before the olympics--vignetting on snow surfaces sucks. i was burned bad by Canon with the Mark 3--I had lots of problems and hassles sending it back. so i don't want to find out that Nikon 'fixes' it in a few months i got stuck with a turkey. i do need this focal length so will stick with the old one for now even though it naturally frames my pictures for me.


Jan 17, 2010 at 12:21 AM
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p.4 #18 · ALERT FYI- Nikon 70-200 VR II problem


Greetings to all,
Graig B. says

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There is nothing wrong with any of your lenses, this has been said here already!
I don't get it.....
These silver particles are not particles of any kind attached to your glass. There's nothing inside!
If Nikon reps are reading these posts I bet they're having a lot of fun.
Do you really think that such huge and respectful company would messed these expensive lenses up to this extend?
Just "load" them with dirt, silver particles, dust or whatever you think it may be?
These "things" you're seeing are just reflections of internal wall coatings - black with some kind of glitter in there. That's Nikon's proprietary coating so they won't tell you what these little things are.
That's all it is! There's presence of it in 24-70mm f/2.8 and 14-24 f/2.8 lenses, just like in case of 70-200mm lens.
They are below the glass on the wall! They reflect the light you use to shine it inside (with a flash light or or something else).
Here are a few samples of 24-70 and 70-200mm lenses I own. (the pic of 70-200mm isn't the best but I can see a million of these little "silver particles" when shine the flash light inside.)
Unquote

If this is correct (and I hope it is), the explanation is so straight forward. Why then does it take so long for Nikon to respond? It would have been easy, wouldn't it?


Edited on Jan 17, 2010 at 03:23 PM · View previous versions



Jan 17, 2010 at 12:08 PM
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p.4 #19 · ALERT FYI- Nikon 70-200 VR II problem


reminds me of canon---kept saying the Mark III focused just fine--then there where the yellow and other color stickers.
we need rob galbraith to get to the bottom of this...



Jan 17, 2010 at 12:51 PM
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p.4 #20 · ALERT FYI- Nikon 70-200 VR II problem


+1 on thanks for the heads-up. My wallet has recovered from a 14-24, and I was going to order a 70-200 VRII. I'll just wait and see what happens, and keep shooting my slow-focusing slow-aperture crummy-bokeh 80-400 VR for now. :-\


Jan 17, 2010 at 12:54 PM
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