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Josh, let me put it this way... whether you are right or wrong no longer matters to me. I find your posts rude and confrontational, and you are basically unloading on one of the most liked and respected teachers here. Chuck has taken a lot of his time to patiently teach me and many others here things that we would never be able to fully grasp from the manual alone. He is courteous, intelligent, and very accomplished. All said and done, no matter who is right, his advice is of more value to me. Think community a bit before you go firing off your humor, please. And no, I'm not too old to get it.

Too bad you couldn't present your side a little more kindly. You were ready for a fight from your first post. That, in my book, discredits you greatly.

It pisses me off to see this thread turn in this direction. There are so many other forum sites where this is par for the course. I wish this weren't one of them.

Nov 23, 2009 at 08:30 PM

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sskoutas wrote:
Josh, let me put it this way... whether you are right or wrong no longer matters to me. I find your posts rude and confrontational, and you are basically unloading on one of the most liked and respected teachers here. Chuck has taken a lot of his time to patiently teach me and many others here things that we would never be able to fully grasp from the manual alone. He is courteous, intelligent, and very accomplished. All said and done, no matter who is right, his advice is of more value to me. Think community a bit before you go firing off your humor, please. And no, I'm not too old to get it.

Too bad you couldn't present your side a little more kindly. You were ready for a fight from your first post. That, in my book, discredits you greatly.

It pisses me off to see this thread turn in this direction. There are so many other forum sites where this is par for the course. I wish this weren't one of them.

WTF

my 1st post was far from confrontational. I wrote

sync speed has NOTHING to do with weather or not you're using a hot shoe, or monobloc/pack and head system. a flash is a flash is a flash is a flash. you're having issues with sync speed because of your triggers... chances are if you noticed that big of a drop in sync speed it's because the batteries in your pocket wizards are running low. Not because you're "jury-rig" set up(which is fine BTW)

to which I'm told to go read a manual, like I have no idea what I'm talking about.... but I'm the one who's being confrontational...

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I just realized you're the OP... funny now that I was fighting with chuck that your set up was just fine while he courteously told you your issue is you just don't know what you're doing.... you clearly stated in your 1st post that everything worked fine for the 1st set... so how is chucks response to your problem valid? It's not. And the problem here is he gets so much praise for copying and pasting pre canned responses from his website, that sometimes, yes are helpful... but most of the time are just so far off base it's funny. Then if anyone happens to disagree with what he says not only do they get some form of snarky hostility from him, but also the drones of posters that take time to remove themselves from his butt to post something. You can search, although it might take some time to wade through the thousands of posts he's got, but you'll see I'm not alone in my thoughts... But continue by all means to follow the gospel of chuck.. I'm sure you'll gloss right over the answers to your issues and go through unnecessary measures because it's what chuck told you to do.

Nov 23, 2009 at 08:45 PM

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stressing the word NOTHING with all caps set the tone. You did it while quoting Chuck's post, and to me (long before I read the rest of this thread), it seemed like you were headhunting. If I am mistaking your initial intent, I am more than willing to apologize. That apology, however, doesn't extend itself to cover the rest of the slinging.

Nov 23, 2009 at 08:58 PM

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Josh, I saw that you made valid points in your reply to me. You seem to be missing my later point. You're rude.

I'd much rather my reply were one thanking you for your valuable input. I have no problem with you being right, or Chuck being right, or you both being wrong. Point is I came here because there are a lot of people here that know a lot more than me. Knowing more is nice. Being able to share it in a civil manner is nicer.

Nov 23, 2009 at 09:02 PM

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Jezz ---
22 posts in this thread and I'm no longer able to tell if the OP even got an answer to his question.
But, that's the way of the internet.

One thing I learned about diagnosing a problem, whether it has to do with strobes, cars, airplanes or just about anything else, is that if it was working and you changed something then it quit working is to check everything to make sure the "chain" is still intact. changing batteries could have resulted in a cable being loosened, etc.

Since there are two PWs firing two 580s firing two optically triggered ABs there are redundant elements for each part of the chain.

Other than suggesting an organized troubleshooting technique there are too many variables for speculative diagnosis.

Nov 23, 2009 at 09:07 PM

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sskoutas wrote:
stressing the word NOTHING with all caps set the tone. You did it while quoting Chuck's post, and to me (long before I read the rest of this thread), it seemed like you were headhunting. If I am mistaking your initial intent, I am more than willing to apologize. That apology, however, doesn't extend itself to cover the rest of the slinging.

apology accepted. he was quoted because I was directly replying to his comment... it was not intended to be rude, just stressing that he had you barking up the wrong tree.

sskoutas wrote:
Josh, I saw that you made valid points in your reply to me. You seem to be missing my later point. You're rude.

I'd much rather my reply were one thanking you for your valuable input. I have no problem with you being right, or Chuck being right, or you both being wrong. Point is I came here because there are a lot of people here that know a lot more than me. Knowing more is nice. Being able to share it in a civil manner is nicer.

I'd rather be rude than have a bloated self ego... but thanks anyway. I would not have gotten "rude" had god himself not come across the way he did in this thread, and several others over the years. I'm more than capable of sharing in a civil manner. I've shared lots of good information on this site, along with others I frequent... and also helping other photographers face to face. Every once in a while there's that one person that rubs the the wrong way on the wrong day... chalk it up to lack of sleep I guess...

Nov 23, 2009 at 09:16 PM

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Josh Evilsizor wrote:
chalk it up to lack of sleep I guess...

Lack of sleep has nothing to do with it.

Nov 23, 2009 at 09:26 PM

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Oh when the trolls,
come marching in....

Oh when the trolls come marching in,
you know the thread has reached rock bottom...

When the trolls come marching in....

Nov 23, 2009 at 10:48 PM

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p.2 #9 · stumped on sync

Smileys don't hide your anger.

Nov 23, 2009 at 10:59 PM

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Josh Evilsizor wrote:
But then again, maybe if I shot more white towels or horribly shots of my wife I'd have a better grasp on how to use my gear.

A-hole post of the day. Congrats!

Nov 23, 2009 at 11:04 PM

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dmacmillan wrote:
Smileys don't hide your anger.

Doug you really don't have any idea how much you and your Troll buddies amuse me...

This was one of my all time favorites.... Worthy of the Trolling Hall of Fame

LINK

Nov 23, 2009 at 11:25 PM

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p.2 #12 · stumped on sync

Pick up Ron's book "Between Weathers". It's a great read and has gotten great reviews.
See: http://www.amazon.co.uk/product-reviews/1905207204/ref=cm_cr_pr_link_1?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=0&sortBy=bySubmissionDateDescending

Nov 23, 2009 at 11:43 PM

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p.2 #13 · stumped on sync

I've heard he plays a mean harmonica too...

Nov 23, 2009 at 11:58 PM

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p.2 #14 · stumped on sync

who's trolling?

Nov 24, 2009 at 02:49 AM

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Erik Moore wrote:
Josh Evilsizor wrote:
But then again, maybe if I shot more white towels or horribly shots of my wife I'd have a better grasp on how to use my gear.

A-hole post of the day. Congrats!

what do I win?!?!

Nov 24, 2009 at 07:02 AM

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