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Archive 2009 · Oly 40 f/2 Vs. CV 40 f/2 SL2?

  
 
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p.1 #1 · Oly 40 f/2 Vs. CV 40 f/2 SL2?


Hello Zuiko shooters. I became interested in finding a 40 f/2 Zuiko recently. It obviously has a following and I've heard a lot of great things about it. However, with the soon to be released CV 40 f/2 pancake in EF mount I am rethinking my decision. I'm sure you all know the prices for the Oly are about double the CV if you can find one. That being said, the IQ is what matters more to me. Does anybody have any comparison shots from these lenses?

Thanks, Dan.



Nov 19, 2009 at 10:12 AM
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p.1 #2 · Oly 40 f/2 Vs. CV 40 f/2 SL2?


i had the oly 40/2 and find it softer than my Minolta 45/2
in the middle. my thinking was - wondering why people pay so much money
for it.

now i wait for my hexanon 40/1,8.

Mit freundlichen Grüßen

Reinhard



Nov 19, 2009 at 10:32 AM
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p.1 #3 · Oly 40 f/2 Vs. CV 40 f/2 SL2?


I think the Zuiko is slightly better over-all but the asking price is almos double that of a used CV.

The CV may be sharper but I like the look of the Oly more, including colour, contrast and bokeh.

I'm happy as a pig in malarky with the CV though.



Nov 19, 2009 at 10:36 AM
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p.1 #4 · Oly 40 f/2 Vs. CV 40 f/2 SL2?


+1 im keen to convert a hexanon 40/1.8!


Nov 19, 2009 at 10:36 AM
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p.1 #5 · Oly 40 f/2 Vs. CV 40 f/2 SL2?


Thanks for the replies. Any shots taken with either lens? As far as the Hexanon goes, I have seen these before. One just sold eBay for about $125. However, my interest in alts is limited to lenses that will work without clearence issues on a 5D2. So I'm pretty much stuck with Zuikos and other lenses made for EF mount. Not that it's a bad thing


Nov 19, 2009 at 11:26 AM
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p.1 #6 · Oly 40 f/2 Vs. CV 40 f/2 SL2?


The Oly is silly overpriced. It was priced between 50/1.8 and 50/1.4 when it was new - e.g. cheap. I'd say forget the Oly and CV unless you find crazy cheap deals, and go with a converted Minolta Rokkor 45/2 instead. It will clear canon mirrors, AFAIK. It's very cheap ($25 should get you a nice one). I am sure the Oly is a nice $50-80 lens (about what I'd pay), but it's an egregiously overpriced shelf-queen @ $500+ (the current price).

Just my $0.02.

-Ed



Nov 19, 2009 at 01:19 PM
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p.1 #7 · Oly 40 f/2 Vs. CV 40 f/2 SL2?


Ed Sawyer wrote:
The Oly is silly overpriced. It was priced between 50/1.8 and 50/1.4 when it was new - e.g. cheap. I'd say forget the Oly and CV unless you find crazy cheap deals, and go with a converted Minolta Rokkor 45/2 instead. It will clear canon mirrors, AFAIK. It's very cheap ($25 should get you a nice one). I am sure the Oly is a nice $50-80 lens (about what I'd pay), but it's an egregiously overpriced shelf-queen @ $500+ (the current price).

Just my $0.02.

-Ed


+1 unless you are an addict Zuiko junkie like me
Can't you consider a Zuiko 50/1.4 late serial #? It's cheap (about $100) and very good.



Nov 19, 2009 at 01:46 PM
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p.1 #8 · Oly 40 f/2 Vs. CV 40 f/2 SL2?


The big advantage of a Canon-mount CV 40/2 is that you don't have to futz with stop down metering. That, the sharpness, the nice hood should put it above any contenders. I just hope it won't be too expensive.


Nov 19, 2009 at 02:57 PM
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p.1 #9 · Oly 40 f/2 Vs. CV 40 f/2 SL2?


how does the contax 45 stack up?


Nov 19, 2009 at 02:58 PM
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p.1 #10 · Oly 40 f/2 Vs. CV 40 f/2 SL2?


ken.vs.ryu wrote:
how does the contax 45 stack up?


It's quite sharp, with ugly bokeh and it is a full stop slower. Most 5D and 5DII mirrors will hit it.



Nov 19, 2009 at 03:06 PM
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p.1 #11 · Oly 40 f/2 Vs. CV 40 f/2 SL2?


The OM 40mm f2.0 is still tops for me.... As a close second, I would also recommend the Nikon 45mm f2.8 P - almost same design as the Zeiss 45 but a very crisp and sharp lens for a Nikon and will not cause any mount issues on Canon. The Nikon 50mm Series E is quite compact as well as is the Pentax Pancake. The Rokkor is sharp and crisp, but does not offer the same image quality as the OM 40.

The OM 40mm f2.0 still is more compact and sharp - plus it offers exquisite image qualities including sharpness, colors, contrast, bookeh etc.

It appears the only one's who feel it isn't worth the price are those who have not tried it or find themselves in a situation where they feel they paid too much for it or have never used it - nothing wrong with that... whatever works for you is good.



Nov 19, 2009 at 03:44 PM
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p.1 #12 · Oly 40 f/2 Vs. CV 40 f/2 SL2?


pascal03 wrote:
The OM 40mm f2.0 is still tops for me.... As a close second, I would also recommend the Nikon 45mm f2.8 P - almost same design as the Zeiss 45 but a very crisp and sharp lens for a Nikon and will not cause any mount issues on Canon.


AFAIK, the Nikon is a direct copy. Is its bokeh as bad as the Contax? I'd guess so.

The Nikon 50mm Series E is quite compact as well as is the Pentax Pancake.

I just sold one of the Series E 50/1.8. Compact, yes. Otherwise underwhelming in almost every way.

The Rokkor is sharp and crisp, but does not offer the same image quality as the OM 40.... The OM 40mm f2.0 still is more compact and sharp - plus it offers exquisite image qualities including sharpness, colors, contrast, bookeh etc.

My experience with the Rokkor is that, yes it is sharp and crisp, right from wide open, but it also has excellent colour, contrast and bokeh (it is a Rokkor in the true sense). In what ways do you feel the Zuiko is superior, and could that be chalked up to personal preference?





Nov 19, 2009 at 04:12 PM
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p.1 #13 · Oly 40 f/2 Vs. CV 40 f/2 SL2?


cogitech wrote:
My experience with the Rokkor is that, yes it is sharp and crisp, right from wide open, but it also has excellent colour, contrast and bokeh (it is a Rokkor in the true sense). In what ways do you feel the Zuiko is superior, and could that be chalked up to personal preference?



I recall the colors and bookeh just looked more pleasing with the OM....... since one can't be objective with this and it is purely one's opinion, i would chalk it up to personal preference.

The Nikon is very similar to the Zeiss - high contrast and very sharp... but not so great with the bookeh.



Nov 19, 2009 at 05:02 PM
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p.1 #14 · Oly 40 f/2 Vs. CV 40 f/2 SL2?


Both the Nikon and the Contax are straight Tessar's, a design noted for good bokeh and centre sharpness.

This is actually the first time I've seen anyone comment that either lens has poor bokeh.



Nov 19, 2009 at 05:47 PM
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p.1 #15 · Oly 40 f/2 Vs. CV 40 f/2 SL2?


Ed Sawyer wrote:
The Oly is silly overpriced.
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Just my $0.02.


False. Just my $0.02. I'd buy another if anything happened to the one I own.

They're relatively rare. And I can guarantee I wouldn't part with it for a paltry $125.

And if Canon ever makes a DSLR like the old IX (APS film)...the 40/2 would be perfect for it.



Nov 19, 2009 at 06:07 PM
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p.1 #16 · Oly 40 f/2 Vs. CV 40 f/2 SL2?


good bokeh poor bokeh is the most subjective and objective debate ever.


ford vs chevy.

omfg, get over yourselves.
ALSO- does nobody EVER search pancake threads on here? Every week there is a new thread asking about the CV and/or OM. I have a lengthy post in almost of of these threads.



Nov 19, 2009 at 06:12 PM
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p.1 #17 · Oly 40 f/2 Vs. CV 40 f/2 SL2?


Grant808 wrote:
And if Canon ever makes a DSLR like the old IX (APS film)...the 40/2 would be perfect for it.


I'd like to see an IX or IX-L up next to a current D-Rebel. Prob about the same size.



Nov 19, 2009 at 06:17 PM
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p.1 #18 · Oly 40 f/2 Vs. CV 40 f/2 SL2?


ISO1600 wrote:
I'd like to see an IX or IX-L up next to a current D-Rebel. Prob about the same size.


I don't have one of the new Rebels, but it's not even close considering the depth of the grip on the newer bodies. The IX-Lite is closer in form, but even that grip is much smaller.



Nov 19, 2009 at 06:35 PM
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p.1 #19 · Oly 40 f/2 Vs. CV 40 f/2 SL2?


mawz wrote:
Both the Nikon and the Contax are straight Tessar's, a design noted for good bokeh and centre sharpness.

This is actually the first time I've seen anyone comment that either lens has poor bokeh.


I had the Contax and sold it due to the character of the bokeh. I can't imagine the Nikkor-P is any better.



Nov 19, 2009 at 06:41 PM
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p.1 #20 · Oly 40 f/2 Vs. CV 40 f/2 SL2?


i had the pentax and gave it away due to the buyer of my 1DII needing a body cap and lens.


Nov 19, 2009 at 07:36 PM
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