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p.1 #1 · So...where is it hah


Not trying to start another topic on the 1D IV but seriously Canon can we see some more sample pics or something to get us excited.



Nov 18, 2009 at 08:22 PM
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Canon is still fixing the AF and other issues as we speak, lol......

Nov 18, 2009 at 08:34 PM
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That's fine as long as its all good when it ships

Nov 18, 2009 at 09:02 PM
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No...no...still designing the screws

Nov 18, 2009 at 09:04 PM
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Jonesy wrote:

That's fine as long as its all good when it ships


Mark III was shipped without any issues per Canon , lol.....

Quote from the following Mark IV interview-- Is it a stupid statement?

http://www.photoradar.com/news/story/canon-eos-1d-mark-iv-interview
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Q:After the reported problems with the autofocus tracking on the 1D Mark III, how have you improved AI Servo reliability with the Mark IV?

A: We built new a AF sensor and algorithm – these are completely new, therefore we believe we have solved this issue.
We don’t say our 1D Mark III had an ‘issue’.


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Nov 18, 2009 at 09:19 PM
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lidesun wrote:
Jonesy wrote:

That's fine as long as its all good when it ships


Mark III was shipped without any issues per Canon , lol.....

Quote from the following Mark IV interview-- Is it a stupid statement?

http://www.photoradar.com/news/story/canon-eos-1d-mark-iv-interview
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Q:After the reported problems with the autofocus tracking on the 1D Mark III, how have you improved AI Servo reliability with the Mark IV?

A: We built new a AF sensor and algorithm – these are completely new, therefore we believe we have solved this issue.
We don’t say our 1D Mark III had an ‘issue’.


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No surprise. These are the same dimwits that said "no one ever complained" about the 5d AF, so they left it alone in the 5d2.

I'm sure the 1D4 AF will be better, but I won't go so far as to say "good". Seriously, they've had over 2 years to understand the problems they created, learn how to fix what they messed up, they've been practicing on people with the 7d for a few months now, and they're still potentially tweaking the firmware as we speak. if they don't get it right this time, I think they need to look for a new line of business.


Nov 18, 2009 at 09:58 PM
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jamesf99 wrote:
if they don't get it right this time, I think they need to look for a new line of business.


I have to agree with you on this one 10000000000000% !

And I am sure I will sell all my Canon gears no matter how much $$$$ I will throw away... Canon will not deserve a single cent from my pocket


Nov 18, 2009 at 10:10 PM
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I'm buying all your Canon gears for a $1

lidesun wrote:
jamesf99 wrote:
if they don't get it right this time, I think they need to look for a new line of business.


I have to agree with you on this one 10000000000000% !

And I am sure I will sell all my Canon gears no matter how much $$$$ I will throw away...



Nov 18, 2009 at 10:12 PM
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kewlcanon wrote:
I'm buying all your Canon gears for a $1

lidesun wrote:
jamesf99 wrote:
if they don't get it right this time, I think they need to look for a new line of business.


I have to agree with you on this one 10000000000000% !

And I am sure I will sell all my Canon gears no matter how much $$$$ I will throw away...



Sure, and you will pay $30K for UPS ground shipping w/o insurance, lol...

Nov 18, 2009 at 10:13 PM
 



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lidesun wrote:
kewlcanon wrote:
I'm buying all your Canon gears for a $1

lidesun wrote:
jamesf99 wrote:
if they don't get it right this time, I think they need to look for a new line of business.


I have to agree with you on this one 10000000000000% !

And I am sure I will sell all my Canon gears no matter how much $$$$ I will throw away...



Sure, and you will pay $30K for UPS ground shipping w/o insurance, lol...


I'll fly out to you for local pickup for the $1 for your gear

Nov 18, 2009 at 10:15 PM
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There seems to be a shortage of Direct Print buttons in China ... once that's taken care of ..

Nov 18, 2009 at 10:17 PM
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thedigitalbean wrote:


I'll fly out to you for local pickup for the $1 for your gear


That's a good one





Nov 18, 2009 at 10:50 PM
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lidesun wrote:

Quote from the following Mark IV interview-- Is it a stupid statement?

http://www.photoradar.com/news/story/canon-eos-1d-mark-iv-interview
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Q:After the reported problems with the autofocus tracking on the 1D Mark III, how have you improved AI Servo reliability with the Mark IV?

A: We built new a AF sensor and algorithm – these are completely new, therefore we believe we have solved this issue.
We don’t say our 1D Mark III had an ‘issue’.


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In the same article, explaining why the new AF system couldn't be supplied as a firmware upgrade for the Mk III, he said this:

MO: I also think the big difference as well is that the Mark III has 19 points for autofocus that are user selectable, which was the limit of technology at that point. Whereas now we have 45 selectable points but 39 of them a cross-type.

Yet the Mk II and the "classic" 1D had 45 selectable points (though with fewer than ten cross-type sensors, so going to 19 of those in the Mk III might have had something to do with the elimination of having all 45 be selectable by user).

Nov 19, 2009 at 01:01 AM
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thedigitalbean wrote:
lidesun wrote:
kewlcanon wrote:
I'm buying all your Canon gears for a $1

lidesun wrote:
jamesf99 wrote:
if they don't get it right this time, I think they need to look for a new line of business.


I have to agree with you on this one 10000000000000% !

And I am sure I will sell all my Canon gears no matter how much $$$$ I will throw away...



Sure, and you will pay $30K for UPS ground shipping w/o insurance, lol...


I'll fly out to you for local pickup for the $1 for your gear


I'll double that offer, and will drive out for local pickup!!!


Nov 19, 2009 at 01:31 AM
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Jonesy wrote:
Not trying to start another topic on the 1D IV but seriously Canon can we see some more sample pics or something to get us excited.




It is time to see actual camera ...

Nov 19, 2009 at 03:46 AM
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canon has till Jan 2010 to deliver it (winter olympics in Feb), so in new york minutes, we still might have an eternity to wait.

Nov 19, 2009 at 02:21 PM
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Yep,

That sounds kind of lame from an engineering standpoint. What that guy (whoever he really is) probably meant was that they would essentially have to rip out the MKIII AF algo and put a new one in its place and there may be some hardware limitations due to the MKIII implementation.

But the way it was put, does not make much sense since the previous one did basically deliver the performance from 45 points.

BTW, all of this is pretty much conjecture since we do not have the details of the AF implementation.

-- Vivek

Photon wrote:
lidesun wrote:

Quote from the following Mark IV interview-- Is it a stupid statement?

http://www.photoradar.com/news/story/canon-eos-1d-mark-iv-interview
__________________________________


Q:After the reported problems with the autofocus tracking on the 1D Mark III, how have you improved AI Servo reliability with the Mark IV?

A: We built new a AF sensor and algorithm – these are completely new, therefore we believe we have solved this issue.
We don’t say our 1D Mark III had an ‘issue’.


__________________________________


In the same article, explaining why the new AF system couldn't be supplied as a firmware upgrade for the Mk III, he said this:

MO: I also think the big difference as well is that the Mark III has 19 points for autofocus that are user selectable, which was the limit of technology at that point. Whereas now we have 45 selectable points but 39 of them a cross-type.

Yet the Mk II and the "classic" 1D had 45 selectable points (though with fewer than ten cross-type sensors, so going to 19 of those in the Mk III might have had something to do with the elimination of having all 45 be selectable by user).



Nov 19, 2009 at 05:38 PM




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